Being a trainer is fucking hard...

[A2daMIR]

i was at the gym last night, before i started my workout i went to fill my shaker bottle with water, and you got the ABS and all medicine balls and weight balls in that area, and i heard a trainer say " no with the tip of your fingers"... so i tried to think what the hell he was having some poor client to do that required TIP OF FINGERS only... fuck it, i had to look over and see whats up...

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

[Melvin Goodrum]

i was at the gym last night, before i started my workout i went to fill my shaker bottle with water, and you got the ABS and all medicine balls and weight balls in that area, and i heard a trainer say " no with the tip of your fingers"... so i tried to think what the hell he was having some poor client to do that required TIP OF FINGERS only... fuck it, i had to look over and see whats up...

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

The trainer obviously has a background in sports conditioning.  Medicine ball training is used by a number of professional sports trainers.  Holding the ball by its tips helps out the person in developing core strength as he has to stabilize himself to keep from having the ball fall from his hands

[Stark]

i was at the gym last night, before i started my workout i went to fill my shaker bottle with water, and you got the ABS and all medicine balls and weight balls in that area, and i heard a trainer say " no with the tip of your fingers"... so i tried to think what the hell he was having some poor client to do that required TIP OF FINGERS only... fuck it, i had to look over and see whats up...

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

hahah thanks... that goes straight onto www.gymstories.com

[Thin Lizzy]

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

Holding the ball on the fingertips would make the lever arm as long as possible, putting the greatest possible stress on the front delts which are doing the work. It's the equivalent of sitting on the very end of a see saw.

That said, these combination movements can border on the absurd, as you can only concentrate on so many muscles at one time. That exercise you describe is akin to lying on a bench, doing a leg raise, and simultaneously doing bench presses.

[Meltdown]

Harden the Fuk Up.

[busyB]

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

www.nasm.org

The followers of the CORE movement 

[A2daMIR]

The trainer obviously has a background in sports conditioning.  Medicine ball training is used by a number of professional sports trainers.  Holding the ball by its tips helps out the person in developing core strength as he has to stabilize himself to keep from having the ball fall from his hands

first of all we're talking about a 5lb ball, i dont know how much that'll help him strengten his core
second of all for a guy that was deffinately 25+ %BF, i couldnt start him off with those excercises, but thats just me... what good would the ball do to his gut when he has probably 6-10 inches of fat around his "CORE"...

 i think there is a  tradition between the trainers that "as long as you use a medicine ball or weight ball, no matter what you do, your on the right track"  and there excuse is " CORE TRAINING". like having  guys, i swear i have seen this, the trainer had a guy do dumbell presses with 7.5lb on a medicine ball...  and if you ask him , he'd probably say " core training, and its harder this way"...  if it was me, i wouldve upped the poundage and have them do it on a flat bench...

[bigkid]

Harden the Fuk Up.

hahaha

[busyB]

first of all we're talking about a 5lb ball, i dont know how much that'll help him strengten his core
second of all for a guy that was deffinately 25+ %BF, i couldnt start him off with those excercises, but thats just me... what good would the ball do to his gut when he has probably 6-10 inches of fat around his "CORE"...

 i think there is a  tradition between the trainers that "as long as you use a medicine ball or weight ball, no matter what you do, your on the right track"  and there excuse is " CORE TRAINING". like having  guys, i swear i have seen this, the trainer had a guy do dumbell presses with 7.5lb on a medicine ball...  and if you ask him , he'd probably say " core training, and its harder this way"...  if it was me, i wouldve upped the poundage and have them do it on a flat bench...

There in lies the controversy.

I am of old school thought that you need to do some strength training, cardio, flexability/stretching.

Lots of trainers get their NASM and start anyone off with CORE training, even if they need to lose a large amount of bodyfat. There is a time and place for CORE and a good trainer will know when and where to incorporate it.

[Croatch]

i was at the gym last night, before i started my workout i went to fill my shaker bottle with water, and you got the ABS and all medicine balls and weight balls in that area, and i heard a trainer say " no with the tip of your fingers"... so i tried to think what the hell he was having some poor client to do that required TIP OF FINGERS only... fuck it, i had to look over and see whats up...

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

Strange, Ronnie Coleman doesn't seem to do any "core specific" training (balancing of goofy balls while squatting, fucking around with kettle balls, etc) yet he managed to built a "decent" physique at one time.
Core exercises = People who don't want to lift heavy weight
I'll put heavy deadlifts, front squats, squats...against any core exercise fanatic...and guess what, I'll win.   Shit is a nice gimmick for trainers to keep their clients.  Some trainers will use exercises which require 2 people, this way the client will feel they "need" them, to do an efficient routine.  It's garbage.
With no training partner or core ball exercises, I've managed to somehow "beat the odds" and make decent gains..haha  Who comes up with these bullshit things?  Yes, of course, you will hit a few more stabalizing muscles by using a bouncy ball, but you will also lift far more, without that shit.  I'll take the extra 100lbs on a squat over a fancy core ball Barnum Bailey balancing act any day.

[WeenTang]

I have a trainer in my gym that has all of his clients super set everything.  I have only seen him train 50+ yr old woman, and its always during peak hours.  I assume these old bitches are trying to build EPIC MASS

[HTexan]

i recently drop my pt, for a training partner.  I find i do more is less time now, then with a pt that is on the clock. Plus the money i save is now going into my new TV fund.

[Army of One]

Strange, Ronnie Coleman doesn't seem to do any "core specific" training (balancing of goofy balls while squatting, fucking around with kettle balls, etc) yet he managed to built a "decent" physique at one time.
Core exercises = People who don't want to lift heavy weight
I'll put heavy deadlifts, front squats, squats...against any core exercise fanatic...and guess what, I'll win.   Shit is a nice gimmick for trainers to keep their clients.  Some trainers will use exercises which require 2 people, this way the client will feel they "need" them, to do an efficient routine.  It's garbage.
With no training partner or core ball exercises, I've managed to somehow "beat the odds" and make decent gains..haha  Who comes up with these bullshit things?  Yes, of course, you will hit a few more stabalizing muscles by using a bouncy ball, but you will also lift far more, without that shit.  I'll take the extra 100lbs on a squat over a fancy core ball Barnum Bailey balancing act any day.

Croatch your avatar has looked like this for about a month now

[Croatch]

i recently drop my pt, for a training partner.  I find i do more is less time now, then with a pt that is on the clock. Plus the money i save is now going into my new TV fund.

Go with a plasma...Samsung or Panasonic, or Pioneer is you don't mind dumping twice the cash.

Croatch your avatar has looked like this for about a month now

Yeah, they took down the gif...bastards!

[HTexan]

Go with a plasma...Samsung or Panasonic, or Pioneer is you don't mind dumping twice the cash.

i been looking at the sony bravia lcds.

[Luv2Hurt]

Strange, Ronnie Coleman doesn't seem to do any "core specific" training (balancing of goofy balls while squatting, fucking around with kettle balls, etc) yet he managed to built a "decent" physique at one time.
Core exercises = People who don't want to lift heavy weight
I'll put heavy deadlifts, front squats, squats...against any core exercise fanatic...and guess what, I'll win.   Shit is a nice gimmick for trainers to keep their clients.  Some trainers will use exercises which require 2 people, this way the client will feel they "need" them, to do an efficient routine.  It's garbage.
With no training partner or core ball exercises, I've managed to somehow "beat the odds" and make decent gains..haha  Who comes up with these bullshit things?  Yes, of course, you will hit a few more stabalizing muscles by using a bouncy ball, but you will also lift far more, without that shit.  I'll take the extra 100lbs on a squat over a fancy core ball Barnum Bailey balancing act any day.

Very true.  And these trainees look the same from month to month, year to year.  Waste of time all that silly shit. 

They could be in a room full of people and someone would say to mr core trainee "no way you work out"  Then the dude would pull out a wobble ball and balance on his head while juggling to prove that he does.

[The Coach]

Very true.  And these trainees look the same from month to month, year to year.  Waste of time all that silly shit. 

They could be in a room full of people and someone would say to mr core trainee "no way you work out"  Then the dude would pull out a wobble ball and balance on his head while juggling to prove that he does.

Oh brother.

[Arnold jr]

I've been training people on the side for a few years and decided to do it full time earlier this year, so here's my take on it.

You cannot train your "everyday" clients like you would a BB or what not...you can not have them do just the basics, otherwise you will not keep them as clients and I don't care how good the results are...you have to keep them interested in the whole process.

What you have to do is plan basic workouts ensuring all the basic exercises are implored and done correctly...nothing weird or pointless...this makes up the majority of the training session and it's this part that actually yeilds results. But you have to add in random things to the session, pointless ones, no, but something that is going to grab their attention...no one has their attention grabbed by bench press or squats. Afterwards when the client feels they have worked out hard, they only remember the "random" things...again, I'm talking about every day Joe's.

This is how you have to do it if you're going to stay in business. You have to remember that people are like sheep...they are bombarded every day by advertisements about new fad exercises, and if you don't give them something they will leave you regardless of how sound your training and diet advice is. Now if you're lucky you will pick up some serious lifters from time to time...these are obviously the most fun to train...but they are not your bread and butter since there is not enough of them.

I'll be the first to admit, what you see in your gym is more then not complete BS in terms of what many/most trainers have their clients do...that is a given.

[McFarland]

i been looking at the sony bravia lcds.

W or V series, you can't go wrong.  Gotta get full 1080p though.  Blu-Rays played on them are absolutely sick and the new technology's so crazy that they're actually writing the movie scripts to use scenes that showcase for the colors and shine and textures they can now reproduce.  You'll see, it's more clear than real life.  Even shitty movies are good on it; it's crazy.   

[HTexan]

W or V series, you can't go wrong.  Gotta get full 1080p though.  Blu-Rays played on them are absolutely sick and the new technology's so crazy that they're actually writing the movie scripts to use scenes that showcase for the colors and shine and textures they can now reproduce.  You'll see, it's more clear than real life.  Even shitty movies are good on it; it's crazy.   

i know, 1080p all the way. My bro has a 65incher 1080p mitsubishi. HD movies and 360 look sick on it.

[Gym dude]

i was at the gym last night, before i started my workout i went to fill my shaker bottle with water, and you got the ABS and all medicine balls and weight balls in that area, and i heard a trainer say " no with the tip of your fingers"... so i tried to think what the hell he was having some poor client to do that required TIP OF FINGERS only... fuck it, i had to look over and see whats up...

i swear, he had a guy doing walking lunges while holding a yellow weight ball ( i think th eyellow ones are either 5lb or 7lb) . he had the guy have his hands stretched in fron of him,and the ball for some reason had to be on the tip of his fingers... maybe he needed more definition in his fingers 

 these guys must have REALLY wild imaginations comping up with this shit, or is there an underground website for these queers that has all these BS excercises?

Your a freaking idiot, should everyone be just like you? Train to get big (no evidence of that from you though) then come home and jerk off to tranny porn and getbig posts.

[tonymctones]

I've been training people on the side for a few years and decided to do it full time earlier this year, so here's my take on it.

You cannot train your "everyday" clients like you would a BB or what not...you can not have them do just the basics, otherwise you will not keep them as clients and I don't care how good the results are...you have to keep them interested in the whole process.

What you have to do is plan basic workouts ensuring all the basic exercises are implored and done correctly...nothing weird or pointless...this makes up the majority of the training session and it's this part that actually yeilds results. But you have to add in random things to the session, pointless ones, no, but something that is going to grab their attention...no one has their attention grabbed by bench press or squats. Afterwards when the client feels they have worked out hard, they only remember the "random" things...again, I'm talking about every day Joe's.

This is how you have to do it if you're going to stay in business. You have to remember that people are like sheep...they are bombarded every day by advertisements about new fad exercises, and if you don't give them something they will leave you regardless of how sound your training and diet advice is. Now if you're lucky you will pick up some serious lifters from time to time...these are obviously the most fun to train...but they are not your bread and butter since there is not enough of them.

I'll be the first to admit, what you see in your gym is more then not complete BS in terms of what many/most trainers have their clients do...that is a given.

so true i pt'd for a little over a year and you cant train them in a specific routine b/c after a while they'll leave so you constantly have to come up with new exercises and variations on others to keep things different. That dude has probably been with that trainer for a decent amount of time.

[Croatch]

I've been training people on the side for a few years and decided to do it full time earlier this year, so here's my take on it.

You cannot train your "everyday" clients like you would a BB or what not...you can not have them do just the basics, otherwise you will not keep them as clients and I don't care how good the results are...you have to keep them interested in the whole process.

What you have to do is plan basic workouts ensuring all the basic exercises are implored and done correctly...nothing weird or pointless...this makes up the majority of the training session and it's this part that actually yeilds results. But you have to add in random things to the session, pointless ones, no, but something that is going to grab their attention...no one has their attention grabbed by bench press or squats. Afterwards when the client feels they have worked out hard, they only remember the "random" things...again, I'm talking about every day Joe's.

This is how you have to do it if you're going to stay in business. You have to remember that people are like sheep...they are bombarded every day by advertisements about new fad exercises, and if you don't give them something they will leave you regardless of how sound your training and diet advice is. Now if you're lucky you will pick up some serious lifters from time to time...these are obviously the most fun to train...but they are not your bread and butter since there is not enough of them.

I'll be the first to admit, what you see in your gym is more then not complete BS in terms of what many/most trainers have their clients do...that is a given.

Agreed.  It's more entertainment, than function.  Even when people throw in the "you have to shock the muscle" with switching exercises, etc...it's total horseshit.  Your diet makes you grow.  I've done the exact same routine for over a year at a time and guess what...I grew like a weed.  Today, I switch things up all the time...guess what, no fucking difference...haha
Switching things up makes it's mildly entertaining and maybe hits some things harder...the ones you start with...but really, it doesn't do much.

[Stark]

I've been training people on the side for a few years and decided to do it full time earlier this year, so here's my take on it.

You cannot train your "everyday" clients like you would a BB or what not...you can not have them do just the basics, otherwise you will not keep them as clients and I don't care how good the results are...you have to keep them interested in the whole process.

What you have to do is plan basic workouts ensuring all the basic exercises are implored and done correctly...nothing weird or pointless...this makes up the majority of the training session and it's this part that actually yeilds results. But you have to add in random things to the session, pointless ones, no, but something that is going to grab their attention...no one has their attention grabbed by bench press or squats. Afterwards when the client feels they have worked out hard, they only remember the "random" things...again, I'm talking about every day Joe's.

This is how you have to do it if you're going to stay in business. You have to remember that people are like sheep...they are bombarded every day by advertisements about new fad exercises, and if you don't give them something they will leave you regardless of how sound your training and diet advice is. Now if you're lucky you will pick up some serious lifters from time to time...these are obviously the most fun to train...but they are not your bread and butter since there is not enough of them.

I'll be the first to admit, what you see in your gym is more then not complete BS in terms of what many/most trainers have their clients do...that is a given.

good post

[A2daMIR]

Your a freaking idiot, should everyone be just like you? Train to get big (no evidence of that from you though) then come home and jerk off to tranny porn and getbig posts.

yeah i have less than 200 posts in 2 yrs,im verrrry addicted to getbig and have no life 
and as for evidence... here is mine, so you know the drill, where is your pictures "Gym Dude".. and just out f curiosity, how did you reach those conclusions that you did