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Meltdown · « **Reply #75 on:** April 01, 2008, 04:57:17 PM »

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Chick · « **Reply #76 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:05:50 PM »

Great....who cares?

tom joad · « **Reply #77 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:15:07 PM »

Chick, can you tell us again how the rationale for a drug testing rule in the IFBB is similar to the drug testing policy on another random company's books. Hahahahahaha

Meltdown · « **Reply #78 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:21:21 PM »

How can the Pro Rep send out the message It's Fine to Use and Abuse Drugs as we the IFBB Don't test.Man that's a Fukin JOKE.This house of cards will fall.DEA would not believe how the IFBB works.IFBB Drug Rule = No Fukin Rule.Apart from the fact that Drugs are BANNED in sport it's Fukin Illegal.IDIOTS.

Chick · « **Reply #79 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:27:37 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 01, 2008, 05:21:21 PM

How can the Pro Rep send out the message It's Fine to Use and Abuse Drugs as we the IFBB Don't test.Man that's a Fukin JOKE.This house of cards will fall.DEA would not believe how the IFBB works.IFBB Drug Rule = No Fukin Rule.Apart from the fact that Drugs are BANNED in sport it's Fukin Illegal.IDIOTS.

Not my fight....

dearth · « **Reply #80 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:32:22 PM »

the the IOC, that ben weider has so desparately spent all his life trying to get the IFBB recognized with.

IFBB drug testing is a joke
the IFBB rules are joke
anyone who tried to defend the IFBB rules is a joke

hope this helps.

Quote from: Chick on March 31, 2008, 11:09:57 PM

Laughing stock to who?

Meltdown · « **Reply #81 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:34:11 PM »

Bob you are one of the smartest Pros ever and I know that, just look at your charisma and how you don't give a Fuk about anything A True Italian you know the Money is coming in and all this Drug talk means Fuk all to you as you are over 40 with low test levels means Doctors script so all very very Legal.Gotta give it to you Dude You are Livin the Dream.You are one of the smartest.Congrats Amico.

Chick · « **Reply #82 on:** April 01, 2008, 05:42:10 PM »

Quote from: dearth on April 01, 2008, 05:32:22 PM

the the IOC, that ben weider has so desparately spent all his life trying to get the IFBB recognized with.

IFBB drug testing is a joke
the IFBB rules are joke
anyone who tried to defend the IFBB rules is a joke

hope this helps.

LOL.....the IOC....

tom joad · « **Reply #83 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:04:53 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 05:42:10 PM

LOL.....the IOC....

If the IOC is a joke (and I ain't saying it isn't) then bodybuilding must be an even bigger JOKE since it's not deemed worthy enough to be a participatory sport at the dirty Olympics hahaha.

Chick · « **Reply #84 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:12:02 PM »

Quote from: tom joad on April 01, 2008, 07:04:53 PM

If the IOC is a joke (and I ain't saying it isn't) then bodybuilding must be an even bigger JOKE since it's not deemed worthy enough to be a participatory sport at the dirty Olympics hahaha.

Bodybuilding never had a chance of getting accepted into th Olympics, despite Ben Weider's best intentions....and it had nothing to do with the drugs...it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted.

tom joad · « **Reply #85 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:20:30 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:12:02 PM

Bodybuilding never had a chance of getting accepted into th Olympics, despite Ben Weider's best intentions....and it had nothing to do with the drugs...it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted.

Interesting. I was gonna mention figure skating as being subjective in its judging but maybe it isn't "totally subjective". (I don't know.)

Chick · « **Reply #86 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:22:20 PM »

Quote from: tom joad on April 01, 2008, 07:20:30 PM

Interesting. I was gonna mention figure skating as being subjective in its judging but maybe it isn't "totally subjective". (I don't know.)

Even ice skating and gymnastics have required elements to their routines....bb does not.

Vince B · « **Reply #87 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:38:31 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:12:02 PM

Bodybuilding never had a chance of getting accepted into th Olympics, despite Ben Weider's best intentions....and it had nothing to do with the drugs...it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted.

Bob, you don't know what you are talking about. It is possible to make judging partially objective by using photos and making the images the same size, etc. That is what a lot of us do after the contests when we examine photos. I wonder what the concept 'totally subjective' means? There is a sense in which all judging is totally subjective because it takes place in the brains of humans.

There is controversy in boxing, skating, gymnastics, diving, beauty contests, dancing, singing, etc., etc.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #88 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:12:02 PM

Bodybuilding never had a chance of getting accepted into th Olympics, despite Ben Weider's best intentions....and it had nothing to do with the drugs...it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted.

gymnastics and figure skating, both are subjectively judged

Chick · « **Reply #89 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:57:55 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on April 01, 2008, 07:38:31 PM

Bob, you don't know what you are talking about. It is possible to make judging partially objective by using photos and making the images the same size, etc. That is what a lot of us do after the contests when we examine photos. I wonder what the concept 'totally subjective' means? There is a sense in which all judging is totally subjective because it takes place in the brains of humans.

There is controversy in boxing, skating, gymnastics, diving, beauty contests, dancing, singing, etc., etc.

STFU Basile....

Pictures....LOL Yeah, thats it.

'TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE"...meaning based on pure opinion...no set criteria. The difference between any Olympic sport and ours...even the two sports I listed have required elements that can be judged, they were done or they were not....and almost all of those sports have enough of their own problems with the outcomes with the little "opinion" based criteria they have.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #90 on:** April 01, 2008, 07:58:25 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:22:20 PM

Even ice skating and gymnastics have required elements to their routines....bb does not.

sure it does.

Ever heard of Pre-judging?

Figure skaters have a Pre-judging of their own, it's called"forms" and it is performed the day before they do their free skating routines.

Sound Familiar?

Vince B · « **Reply #91 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:06:15 PM »

There is criteria that judges use to assess and separate physiques. It is not just a matter of opinion. There is even a test for judges so why would the IFBB have that test if all judging was mere opinion?

Chick · « **Reply #92 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:13:06 PM »

Quote from: Groink on April 01, 2008, 07:58:25 PM

sure it does.

Ever heard of Pre-judging?

Figure skaters have a Pre-judging of their own, it's called"forms" and it is performed the day before they do their free skating routines.

Sound Familiar?

Going through the mandatory poses is not, and could not be considered "required elements" as there is not a "athletic move" being performed....both ice skating and gymnastics do...

tom joad · « **Reply #93 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:15:49 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 08:13:06 PM

Going through the mandatory poses is not, and could not be considered "required elements" as there is not a "athletic move" being performed....both ice skating and gymnastics do...

so I guess that's why bodybuilders are not athletes . . .

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #94 on:** April 01, 2008, 08:16:17 PM »

BB dont need no stinking olympics

onlyme · « **Reply #95 on:** April 01, 2008, 11:44:18 PM »

I hope you all see what Chic is saying is all true and it is also the reasons why bodybuilding in not a true sport but more of a show or contest. In the Olympics the athletes are judged on their physical performance not how they look doing it. The best built person does not always win. In bodybuilding you have judges who all think differently and have inside their head what looks great.

dearth · « **Reply #96 on:** April 02, 2008, 09:36:10 AM »

bob,

according to you the IOC is fine with the IFBB's drug testing program,
it was just the "subjective" nature of the sport they didn't like.

with smoke and mirror explanations such as this, you will have your ifbb post for a long time

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:12:02 PM

Bodybuilding never had a chance of getting accepted into th Olympics, despite Ben Weider's best intentions....and it had nothing to do with the drugs...it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted.

Chick · « **Reply #97 on:** April 02, 2008, 09:48:53 AM »

Quote from: dearth on April 02, 2008, 09:36:10 AM

bob,

according to you the IOC is fine with the IFBB's drug testing program,
it was just the "subjective" nature of the sport they didn't like.

with smoke and mirror explanations such as this, you will have your ifbb post for a long time

*IF* BB was accepted into the Olympics, they would have been subject to the same IOC testing that anyone else in the Olympics is....makes your comment irrelevant.

WEAPONX · « **Reply #98 on:** April 02, 2008, 09:58:51 AM »

"it had (has) everything to do with being totally subjective in it's judging and criteria....without anything but opinion to dictate a winner, it would never be accepted"

Perfectly said Bob !

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onlyme · « **Reply #99 on:** April 02, 2008, 10:08:14 AM »

If the reason why the IOC did not put BB into the Olympics was because of the judging then why did Weider push so hard to implement the Steroid rules and related bullshit instead of not work on something to do with the judging and the way it was done so he could satisfy the IOC's concerns directly. I think you may have this all wrong Chic. Your reason does not make sense.