This would probably not be recommended by most, myself included. Cycle's should be run around a test base. Oral winstrol and dbol combined would possibly be a little harsh on the liver. Do a lot more reading and research, and educate your self before you start experimenting. These are questions that could have been answered in five minutes of research. These are powerful drugs and you really need to know how they work if your going to use them. Im not flaming just stating the facts.