Hypothetical Question for Block, Trop, Disgusted, Derek A., gh15...

[Van_Bilderass]

yes it woud matter the source of his calories van.   depleted glycogen=faster fat metabolism, lower insulin=faster fat metabolism,. more protein=more thermic effect

If protein is the same between the diets, fat and carb distribution matters little as far as fat loss. How do you think Alex Azarian gets so ripped by eating oatmeal and brown sugar? You don't have to zero carb to get absolutely diced.

[candidizzle]

If protein is the same between the diets, fat and carb distribution matters little as far as fat loss. How do you think Alex Azarian gets so ripped by eating oatmeal and brown sugar? You don't have to zero carb to get absolutely diced.

gh and lots of cardio

[Red Hook]

Twizzlers, couple of snickers and some KFC should be enough to keep you ripped year round... No cardio

Lockett told me so

[OTHstrong]

yes it woud matter the source of his calories van.   depleted glycogen=faster fat metabolism, lower insulin=faster fat metabolism,. more protein=more thermic effect

SIMPLY PUT.  How simpller can this get. Candidizzle just gave the only info you need on contest prep in a single sentence. Follow this formula, you don't need any expert advice, this is the diet that will take you to contest. This is how I get shredded and may others. What would fatfather i mean squadfather know he has never been below 20%.
 The protein I mentioned (600) is not for tissue repair only, it also serves to raise the matabolism. Remember we are talking about a 300 pounder.

[temper35]

SIMPLY PUT.  How simpller can this get. Candidizzle just gave the only info you need on contest prep in a single sentence. Follow this formula, you don't need any expert advice, this is the diet that will take you to contest. This is how I get shredded and may others. What would fatfather i mean squadfather know he has never been below 20%.
 The protein I mentioned (600) is not for tissue repair only, it also serves to raise the matabolism. Remember we are talking about a 300 pounder.

Dude hes like 5'9.  What do you honestly think hes going to be when hes on stage?  240-250 tops.

I like Candi, and at least what he says has some semblance of knowledge.  You are just dumb.

[spotter]

This is a serious thread, so all you comedians please take your jokes to the 4 dozen or so other Brewer threads.

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, suppose Trey Brewer came to you (Blockhead, Troponin, Derek Anthony, Disgusted, Alex A, or anyone else who does contest prep) today, and asked you to take over the rest of the prep for the Junior Nats and USA's.

What would you advise him to do? In terms of cardio, nutrition, and training, what would your advice be?

Serious academic thread here, so again no comedy please.

Hi Columbus..........Next time, write "this is a comic thread"....You will get the serious responses you were trying to get!!!!   All kidding aside...

[columbusdude82]

Hi Columbus..........Next time, write "this is a comic thread"....You will get the serious responses you were trying to get!!!!    All kidding aside...

Why won't Derek weigh in on this thread? Doesn't he like us any more?

[OTHstrong]

Dude hes like 5'9.  What do you honestly think hes going to be when hes on stage?  240-250 tops.

I like Candi, and at least what he says has some semblance of knowledge.  You are just dumb.

Do you know anything about bodybuilding? Have you've been ultra shredded before? Have you won your category and an overall? If so post a pic of your ultra shredded physique. If you will not show respect to someone who knows how to get shredded without knowing how yourself how then obviously you aren't even in my category. I don't want to pick a fight with you, but as a bodybuilder I can educate a few people here and if you don't agree then say I don't agree, don't call me dumb because if we chose to compare physique you will lose, my word.

[temper35]

Do you know anything about bodybuilding? Have you've been ultra shredded before? Have you won your category and an overall? If so post a pic of your ultra shredded physique. If you will not show respect to someone who knows how to get shredded without knowing how yourself how then obviously you aren't even in my category. I don't want to pick a fight with you, but as a bodybuilder I can educate a few people here and if you don't agree then say I don't agree, don't call me dumb because if we chose to compare physique you will lose, my word.

LOL.

[candidizzle]

i wonder why brewer didnt put on more size eating all that food.honestly, as far as muscle mass goes, it doesnt look like he made much progress.

any speculation?

[temper35]

i wonder why brewer didnt put on more size eating all that food.honestly, as far as muscle mass goes, it doesnt look like he made much progress.

any speculation?

He definitely put size on his arms.  That seems to be all though.

[candidizzle]

He definitely put size on his arms.  That seems to be all though.

yeh a little bit, and i think his shoulders are a tiny thicker too

but his chest, back, legs, traps...i dont see ANY  gains

[OTHstrong]

He definitely put size on his arms.  That seems to be all though.

Size on his arms and I think maybe his upper chest.

[candidizzle]

respectfully,

 Training: I wouldn't care as he can train himself. I'd just encourage him to keep his rest between sets no longer than 1 minute for anything upperbody and no more than 2 minutes for LEGS. i would say that his training should be exactly ho it has been the whole time. whatever is going to keep muscle at its highest level. no short rest set bull that will ave him losing muscle size.

 Diet:  I would have him eating a higher fats, consistent protein and low carb diet. Based on the pictures I've seen I'd tell him to have 5 SOLID meals a day and 1 LIQUID meal(post-workout) only. I would say he needs to eat every 90 minutes. more meals= more thermic effect of feeding= more fat burning. also, faster bmr.  (90 minutes is set because that is the shortest intervals possible without effecting digestion of previous meal)

 Gear: No androgens. Anabolics only. Mild. Never breaking over 1g/week.  More isn't better. I may even extend his life a little bit. Primo/winstrol/tren type of cocktail. I'd make him bring his gh down to 4-6iu's a day instead of 8-10iu's. I'd dump the T3 and DNP and see what plain ECA/clen 2 week ON and 2 week OFF does for him taking up to 140mcg of clen daily and ECA 2-3x's a day. Maybe.    testosterone at whatever doseage h has been using, tren at 1/3 doseage of testosterone, anadrol at whatever doseage he has used in the past, arimidex at 3 mg ed, t3 at 200 mcg ed, clen at at whatever he has used in the past, ephedrine at whatever he has used in the past , gh at whatever he has used in the past
 

 Good question.

[Van_Bilderass]

^
frequent meals increasing BMR is a myth.

 

Br J Nutr. 1997 Apr;77 Suppl 1:S57-70. Links
Meal frequency and energy balance.

Bellisle F, McDevitt R, Prentice AM.
INSERM U341, Hotel Dieu de Paris, France.
Several epidemiological studies have observed an inverse relationship between people's habitual frequency of eating and body weight, leading to the suggestion that a 'nibbling' meal pattern may help in the avoidance of obesity. A review of all pertinent studies shows that, although many fail to find any significant relationship, the relationship is consistently inverse in those that do observe a relationship. However, this finding is highly vulnerable to the probable confounding effects of post hoc changes in dietary patterns as a consequence of weight gain and to dietary under-reporting which undoubtedly invalidates some of the studies. We conclude that the epidemiological evidence is at best very weak, and almost certainly represents an artefact. A detailed review of the possible mechanistic explanations for a metabolic advantage of nibbling meal patterns failed to reveal significant benefits in respect of energy expenditure. Although some short-term studies suggest that the thermic effect of feeding is higher when an isoenergetic test load is divided into multiple small meals, other studies refute this, and most are neutral. More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency. We conclude that any effects of meal pattern on the regulation of body weight are likely to be mediated through effects on the food intake side of the energy balance equation.

[candidizzle]

^
frequent meals increasing BMR is a myth.

 

try it out and see for yourself

[Van_Bilderass]

try it out and see for yourself

I think people just need to simplify their approach and not sweat the small details. If they feel splitting up feedings over 4 meals instead of 8 fits their schedule and preferences better then go with that. People, even many great pro bodybuilders, have gotten shredded without going on a ridiculous 10 meal plan. Didn't Serge Nubret say he ate once a day only? That may not be optimal but shows that his metabolism didn't crash.