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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2008, 04:50:24 PM »
I admit that I'm not really an expert on judging this stuff but to me, from those pictures, I would put Platz well ahead of everyone. Well ahead.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2008, 04:52:00 PM »
ND...good show getting all these photos up...btw...got one of Waller? He was in it too...placed second to last ahead of Raty.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2008, 04:55:33 PM »
Quote from: TrueGrit on April 22, 2008, 04:50:24 PM
I admit that I'm not really an expert on judging this stuff but to me, from those pictures, I would put Platz well ahead of everyone. Well ahead.

Exactly.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2008, 05:01:37 PM »
Look at the Biceps on Jorma Raty, dude won the IFBB worlds in 1980 amateur under 80kg class.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2008, 05:05:46 PM »
I was at the show, both pre-judging and night show, and I would have had Platz in 1st with Roy Callendar in 2nd and Padilla 3rd. Franco's upper body looked great (except for the gyno) but his legs had zero separation in the quads. Since Platz, Padilla, Callendar and Dickerson all had great legs, I couldn't see Franco beating any of those guys. The top three were DEFINITELY Platz, Callendar and Padilla. The audience knew it and the booing started right after they announced Danny in 5th. People were throwing things at the stage and booing like crazy. I never saw anything like it before or since. Arnold took pictures with Franco and the Sandow trophy backstage, not onstage. It was crazy!
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2008, 05:07:36 PM »
Quote from: Meltdown on April 22, 2008, 05:01:37 PM
Look at the Biceps on Jorma Raty, dude won the IFBB worlds in 1980 amateur under 80kg class.

Great bis and back...just passed away last year... :'(
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2008, 05:08:31 PM »
Quote from: Natural_O on April 22, 2008, 05:05:46 PM
I was at the show, both pre-judging and night show, and I would have had Platz in 1st with Roy Callendar in 2nd and Padilla 3rd. Franco's upper body looked great (except for the gyno) but his legs had zero separation in the quads. Since Platz, Padilla, Callendar and Dickerson all had great legs, I couldn't see Franco beating any of those guys. The top three were DEFINITELY Platz, Callendar and Padilla. The audience knew it and the booing started right after they announced Danny in 5th. People were throwing things at the stage and booing like crazy. I never saw anything like it before or since. Arnold took pictures with Franco and the Sandow trophy backstage, not onstage. It was crazy!

Was it true Weider high-tailed it out of there as quickjly as he could?
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2008, 05:11:48 PM »
Yeah, they didn't stay on stage too long because the audience was booing like crazy!! They were also booing Arnold earlier in the night when he came to the mike and spoke to the crowd. Arnold was very unpopular that year because of his controversial 1980 Olympia win. They showed a clip of the upcoming "Conan the Barbarian" and Arnold didn't seem bothered by the boos at all. It was almost like he knew he was going to be a major movie star in the next year or so.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2008, 05:19:27 PM »
I betcha under his breath, he was saying, "F--- these Americans...I will soon own them."

One of the pros from many years ago (Hate to do this, but I'd rather not say who) told me that Arnold actually feels that most Americans were/ are, in his words, weak and lazy.

Of course, now, he could never aver this as Governor.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2008, 05:20:00 PM »
Quote from: Natural_O on April 22, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
Yeah, they didn't stay on stage too long because the audience was booing like crazy!! They were also booing Arnold earlier in the night when he came to the mike and spoke to the crowd. Arnold was very unpopular that year because of his controversial 1980 Olympia win. They showed a clip of the upcoming "Conan the Barbarian" and Arnold didn't seem bothered by the boos at all. It was almost like he knew he was going to be a major movie star in the next year or so.

In all of this mess, how did Franco react? I mean it's unlikely he didn't realize what a theft his win was and he couldn't be too proud recieving that trophy with hundreds of people booing at him.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2008, 05:32:06 PM »
Quote from: lovemonkey on April 22, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
In all of this mess, how did Franco react? I mean it's unlikely he didn't realize what a theft his win was and he couldn't be too proud recieving that trophy with hundreds of people booing at him.

probably the same way as Arnold handled it the year before
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2008, 05:33:52 PM »
Quote from: lovemonkey on April 22, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
In all of this mess, how did Franco react? I mean it's unlikely he didn't realize what a theft his win was and he couldn't be too proud recieving that trophy with hundreds of people booing at him.

Didn't seem to bother him at all. He still did his characteristic jump in the air and stayed onstage and smiled for pictures with the trophy. When he was Pro Bodybuilding Weekly last year, he claims he was the rightful winner.  ::)
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2008, 05:34:53 PM »
"In 20 years, the only thing people will remember is 'Arnold, 7 times Mr. O...'..."
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2008, 05:38:04 PM »
He didn't have gyno, he had gynu
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2008, 06:36:02 PM »
Quote from: TrueGrit on April 22, 2008, 05:38:04 PM
He didn't have gyno, he had gynu

rofl

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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2008, 07:08:30 PM »
Quote from: Moosejay on April 22, 2008, 05:34:53 PM
"In 20 years, the only thing people will remember is 'Arnold, 7 times Mr. O...'..."

he couldn't have predicted the internet
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2008, 07:15:29 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on April 22, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
he couldn't have predicted the internet

But I wouldn't put it past him, Tim
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2008, 08:19:32 PM »
Quote from: Moosejay on April 22, 2008, 07:15:29 PM
But I wouldn't put it past him, Tim

it's 28 years later, and people are still talking about whether he deserved to win the 80 Olympia.  because of internet forums, more people are talking about it now than did a few years after it occurred. 

and because of sites like musclememory, we know exactly who placed where for all the major contests.   Arnold's statement is implying only the winners get remembered.   the internet changed that.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2008, 08:21:22 PM »
Excellent post, and, in essence, YOU helped him become wrong-thanks! ;)
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2008, 12:26:36 AM »
People are forgetting that the back is the key muscle group that wins contest.  I'm sure Franco's back was far better than anyone else's.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2008, 01:11:57 AM »
1980 & 1981 were THE worst 2 Olympia's in its current history - & we think it's political now?!
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2008, 01:24:58 AM »
Quote from: Trev on April 23, 2008, 01:11:57 AM
1980 & 1981 were THE worst 2 Olympia's in its current history - & we think it's political now?!

Well, it's safe to say that the Olympia '07 put alot of people off bodybuilding. Whereas, alot on here have said that Arnold deserved the win in '80. Franco is another story, though.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2008, 01:32:30 AM »
Quote from: GoneAway on April 23, 2008, 01:24:58 AM
Well, it's safe to say that the Olympia '07 put alot of people off bodybuilding. Whereas, alot on here have said that Arnold deserved the win in '80. Franco is another story, though.
Yeh Olympia '07 was a close 3rd to these 2!!
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2008, 02:05:44 AM »
Quote from: Trev on April 23, 2008, 01:32:30 AM
Yeh Olympia '07 was a close 3rd to these 2!!

;D

In all honesty, I can see a valid reason to give Jay the Olympia, but like alot of Olympia's, any of the top 5 could have talen it.
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Re: Franco Columbus win in 1981
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2008, 03:53:37 AM »
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