Yeah Tim...Hayes was known for heavy juice...Zak was an absolute giant when he competed. I will never forget when we were competing in the teenaged division of the Mr. CT at Oakdale theater and Zak was conducting the weigh-in for my Tall class teen...Rob Colacino (Before he got into great shape) was next to be weighed, and Zak said to him, "Get on the scale, Fatso..."