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Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP
« on: April 27, 2008, 08:05:47 PM »
Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP



DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- The outspoken former pastor of Barack Obama told an audience of 10,000 at an NAACP dinner on Sunday that despite what his critics say, he is descriptive, not divisive, when he speaks about racial injustices.

"I describe the conditions in this country," the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. said during the 53rd annual Fight for Freedom Fund Dinner held by the Detroit chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

"I'm not here for political reasons," Wright said. "I'm not a politician. I know that fact will surprise many of you because many in the corporate-owned media made it seem like I am running for the Oval Office. I am not running for the Oval Office. I've been running for Jesus a long, long time, and I'm not tired yet."

By speaking at the event, Wright was following in the footsteps of Obama and the senator's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, as well as former President Bill Clinton. It's a $150-a-plate fundraiser billed as America's largest sit-down dinner.

"I am not one of the most divisive" black spiritual leaders, he said. "I'm one of the most descriptive."  Watch Wright say it wasn't his aim to address his critics »

Wright received a long, loud standing ovation.

He became an issue in the presidential race in March after the circulation of videos of old sermons in which he accused the U.S. government of racism and accused it of flooding black neighborhoods with drugs.

In a sermon days after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Wright said that "America's chickens are coming home to roost" after it dropped atomic bombs on Japan and that the United States "supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans."

The videos, circulated widely on television and the Internet, knocked Obama's presidential campaign off stride. The Illinois senator distanced himself from the comments of Wright, whom he has known for 20 years.

The Rev. Wendell Anthony, president of the Detroit NAACP, said at a news conference before the dinner that he was excited to invite the "hottest brother in America right now."

"It just presented an opportunity for us to be able to set the record straight outside of any political consideration," Anthony said.

Wright, who is retiring as pastor of the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, is scheduled to speak Monday to the National Press Club in Washington.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/27/obama.wright.ap/index.html

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Re: Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 08:29:37 PM »
The NAACP is a joke.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 08:47:47 PM »
LOL @ people who put this pastor's belief before every other issue.

"100 more years in iraq!  The economy is strong" - Mccain.

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 12:01:06 AM »
LOL @ people who put this pastor's belief before every other issue.

"100 more years in iraq!  The economy is strong" - Mccain.
correct, it's ridiculous

I really don't think many people are voting on the Wright issue, anyway
it is an excuse for racists to use when they'd never vote for Obama in the first place

great speech, by the way  :)
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 12:07:45 AM »
I think he should listen to bill maher on this one and shut the fuck and and sit this one out.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 12:10:03 AM »
LOL @ people who put this pastor's belief before every other issue.

"100 more years in iraq!  The economy is strong" - Mccain.
It is true, this is unprecidented that they have to dig so deap into a guys shit and not find anything to the point where they resort to digging into the guy's pastor...  I'll tell you what people, if they ever have to dig into your candidate's pastor for dirt on you, you found the right guy.

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 01:20:19 AM »
I think he should listen to bill maher on this one and shut the fuck and and sit this one out.
Bill Maher should shut the fuck up
he is not part of the black community, he just likes to screw black women
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 02:30:45 AM »
Bill Maher should shut the fuck up
he is not part of the black community, he just likes to screw black women
not... his timing doesn't help Obama at all and that's all Bill Maher is saying.  If you look at my posts you'll see I'm as critical of Bill as I am supportive.  He's off an on.  He's on here.  This dude should sit down and shut the fuck up if he gives a rats ass about Obama.  He can tell his story any time and especially tell his story if Obama is elected.  He helped Jack shit nothing and actually hurt Obama with his recent interviews.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 04:19:44 AM »
not... his timing doesn't help Obama at all and that's all Bill Maher is saying.  If you look at my posts you'll see I'm as critical of Bill as I am supportive.  He's off an on.  He's on here.  This dude should sit down and shut the fuck up if he gives a rats ass about Obama.  He can tell his story any time and especially tell his story if Obama is elected.  He helped Jack shit nothing and actually hurt Obama with his recent interviews.
Rev. Wright has a right to speak whenever he wants
His speech only affects racists who wouldn't vote for Obama anyway, this is just an excuse.
Race was going to become an issue sooner or later because America is a racist country...

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 08:56:31 AM »
It’s a Black Thing
If you can't jump or dance, you can't understand me, Wright explains.

The message was clear: Back off black churches. The attack on Wright’s oratory was an attack on black culture by whites who historically don’t understand black traditions, who think blacks are deficient, who think whites are superior.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjdmMmMwNGRjZjcxNThjMzA4MGFiMzE5Y2EwOGUyM2E=

Wright says criticism is attack on black church

He said his Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has a long history of liberating the oppressed by feeding the hungry, supporting recovery for the addicted and helping senior citizens in need. He said congregants have fought in the military, including in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"My goddaughter's unit just arrived in Iraq this week while those who call me unpatriotic have used their positions of privilege to avoid military service while sending over 4,000 American boys and girls to die over a lie," he said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24351213/

I understand and, to some degree, identify with his anger. It's his delivery that needs work.


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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 10:05:26 AM »
This guy is an angry racist who uses rhetoric from the past.  Some (I said some) of the things he preached are disturbing.  His way of criticizm through anger is old.  The less the public hears from this guy, the better.  He is not bringing us together and he said a heck of a lot more than the few clips that are floating around.
We can argue about did Barack separate himself from this guy or not, but the argument is much clearer when we are talking about Wright himself. 

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 11:04:15 AM »
Rev. Wright has a right to speak whenever he wants
His speech only affects racists who wouldn't vote for Obama anyway, this is just an excuse.
Race was going to become an issue sooner or later because America is a racist country...

If you're gonna go down anyway, go down swingin'


he has a right to free speech not a right to promote racism. big difference your way off base.
his speech does nothing but prove that he is racist.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 11:31:00 AM »

"100 more years in iraq!   - Mccain.

LOL.....you're like the CNN of Getbig....you spin it and still can't get it right..LOL!

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 11:41:14 AM »
he has a right to free speech not a right to promote racism. big difference your way off base.
his speech does nothing but prove that he is racist.

please provide proof..

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 11:47:38 AM »
LOL.....you're like the CNN of Getbig....you spin it and still can't get it right..LOL!

actually he is absolutley right IMO....to say that whatever the pastor thinks is what obama thinks therefore dont vote obama is stupid. it is a very smart move by the repub's and fox news to spin it like this...


look at it like this

McCain SAID he is willing to keep us in the "war" for another 100 years


Wright said "blacks got a raw deal"

and obama fits in how???

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 12:02:45 PM »
Mal, if all he said was that historically blacks were oppressed, or 'got a raw deal', most people would agree and pay respect but this guys takes it further man, and with an angry tone...he definitely has some racist thoughts in him.  I don't feel like searching for it but there was some clip where he was blaming the white man for....
It was pretty clear how he felt.  He's not what we need right now for people to continue to come together.  Also, his anger and yelling will continue to fuel the fires of resentment in some black people, which undoubtably does not contribute positively to success and moving forward.  Its this kind of obsession with the past that continues to hold some sections of black Americans behind...and fires non-black to retaliate with their own complaints.  Malproductive IMO...not to mention he is downright wrong with some of his preachings.  What an ass...not just the AIDS but he also said white America put drugs in the black neighborhoods, please.  The only motive for drugs is green.

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 12:03:07 PM »
This guy is an angry racist who uses rhetoric from the past.  Some (I said some) of the things he preached are disturbing.  His way of criticizm through anger is old.  The less the public hears from this guy, the better.  He is not bringing us together and he said a heck of a lot more than the few clips that are floating around.
We can argue about did Barack separate himself from this guy or not, but the argument is much clearer when we are talking about Wright himself. 
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 12:04:23 PM »
he has a right to free speech not a right to promote racism. big difference your way off base.
his speech does nothing but prove that he is racist.
how?
you sound like a scared white person to me
was Martin Luther King Jr., a "racist"  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 12:06:09 PM »
Mal, if all he said was that historically blacks were oppressed, or 'got a raw deal', most people would agree and pay respect but this guys takes it further man, and with an angry tone...he definitely has some racist thoughts in him.  I don't feel like searching for it but there was some clip where he was blaming the white man for....
It was pretty clear how he felt.  He's not what we need right now for people to continue to come together.  Also, his anger and yelling will continue to fuel the fires of resentment in some black people, which undoubtably does not contribute positively to success and moving forward.  Its this kind of obsession with the past that continues to hold some sections of black Americans behind...and fires non-black to retaliate with their own complaints.  Malproductive IMO...not to mention he is downright wrong with some of his preachings.  What an ass...not just the AIDS but he also said white America put drugs in the black neighborhoods, please.  The only motive for drugs is green.
ever heard of the Tuskeegee experiments, dummy?
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Re: Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2008, 12:06:14 PM »
LOL.....you're like the CNN of Getbig....you spin it and still can't get it right..LOL!

More McCain Quotes:

"Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years

"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."

"Well, it's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran.  That's well known. And it's unfortunate." -before correcting himself by saying Iran was training "extremists," not Al Qaeda

"I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello? Easy there."

"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book."

"It's not social issues I care about."

"F**k you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room." --to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), during a testy exchange about immigration legislation

"There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today." --prior to visiting a Baghdad market while being flanked by 22 soldiers, 10 armored Humvees, and two Apache attack helicopters

"You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran." (Watch video clip)

"I had something picked out for you, too - a little IED (improvised explosive device) to put on your desk." --to Jon Stewart

"Americans are very frustrated, and they have every right to be. We've wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives." --on the Iraq war

"I think I'd just commit suicide." --in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election

"No, I'm calling you a f*cking jerk." --to fellow Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, when Grassley asked "Are you calling me stupid?"

"Only an a**hole would put together a budget like this ... I wouldn't call you an a**hole unless you really were an a**hole." --to Budget Committee Chairman and fellow Repulican Sen. Pete Domenici, during a Senate budget hearing

"I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government."

"I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good President. I have no doubt that Senator Clinton would make a good President."

"I said, 'The nice thing about Alzheimer's is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.'"

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --at a 1998 Republican fundraiser"


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Re: Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2008, 12:06:47 PM »
I am the farthest thing from a scared white person you'll meet.  

Additionally, I have a lot of good black friends...who by the way, don't focus on this kind of shit.  All this ass is doing is making race relations more difficult.

Thanks for trying to dumb down this thread with your personal insults which you would not do in person.

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2008, 12:13:03 PM »
Blanco, you just called me a dummy....nice.  Lot of thought into that one champ.  Why are you so angry?   Again, nice way to "dumb" down the debate with insults.  Probably wasting my thoughts with your lack of intellect.

The Tuskeegee experiments began in 1932.  Lets see, how long ago was that and how much has our culture progressed from then?  Stop focusing on the past, its 2008 for christ sake.

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2008, 12:14:49 PM »
Ironically, I would peg Blanco as the racist in this thread. Hate white men much?  ::)

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Re: Obama's ex-pastor gives fiery speech to NAACP
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 12:16:51 PM »
The Tuskeegee experiments began in 1932.  Lets see, how long ago was that and how much has our culture progressed from then?  Stop focusing on the past, its 2008 for christ sake.

Penicillin was discovered in 1947, but not given to the subjects, even though it would have cured them.
It went on until 1972, and ony stopped then, because it leaked to the press.

When you realize that HIV started from polio vaccinations we gave out in the mid-50s....

Well, then it seems a little silly to say "it was so long ago".  Jewish people have every right to still criticize hitler, and that was 1940s.  I think people have the right to still be upset about something that only ended in 1972 because it leaked lol

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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2008, 12:18:14 PM »
Blanco, you just called me a dummy....nice.  Lot of thought into that one champ.  Why are you so angry?   Again, nice way to "dumb" down the debate with insults.  Probably wasting my thoughts with your lack of intellect.

The Tuskeegee experiments began in 1932.  Lets see, how long ago was that and how much has our culture progressed from then?  Stop focusing on the past, its 2008 for christ sake.
Blacks should NEVER forget the past...do you expect Jews to "forget" the holocaust?
I'm sure Rev. Wright doesn't focus on these topics every Sunday, but its fearful whites like this who pick up on it and act like fearful little mice full of guilt.

I'm not angry...why are you so fearful when blacks show emotion?

Talking about such topics no more makes you "racist" than talking about the Gettysburg Address or any other historical event.













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