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Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« on: May 02, 2008, 02:03:25 PM »
Breaking on Hardball... Mccain quote today:

"I will have an energy policy which will prevent us from having to send our young men into countries in the middle east AGAIN."

He then said we're fighting in the middle east to protect our oil reseources.  Very big news.

Everyone knows the war is about oil, but you have a guy who is potentially the next president, admitting it.  Wow.

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2008, 02:08:41 PM »
He's bush.2

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 02:09:22 PM »
Hell, he called his wife a c*nt in public. What the f*ck does he care? He's crazy.

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2008, 02:17:33 PM »
Breaking on Hardball... Mccain quote today:

"I will have an energy policy which will prevent us from having to send our young men into countries in the middle east."

He then said we're fighting in the middle east to protect our oil reseources.  Very big news.

Everyone knows the war is about oil, but you have a guy who is potentially the next president, admitting it.  Wow.


Why wouldn't he admit it?  It was Bush who decided to lie about it in the first place, not McCain.
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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 02:18:42 PM »
McCain on the importance of energy independence, word-for-word:

"I will have an energy policy which will eliminate our dependence on oil from middle east.
It prevent us from having to send our kids into conflict AGAIN in the middle east".

Alan Greenspan, lots of senators, and others have all said the war was about oil.  Now we have the Republican candidate for president saying the reason we go to war is for oil.

His spin people are saying the war is all about terrorism... but here we have mccain admitting it was about oil.  Wow.  I admire his honesty, but it does undermine everything he's said about it being about WMD and terrorism.  he's saying if we had energy independence, we wouldn't have to fight AGAIN in the middle east.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2008, 06:11:40 PM »
Breaking on Hardball... Mccain quote today:

"I will have an energy policy which will prevent us from having to send our young men into countries in the middle east AGAIN."

He then said we're fighting in the middle east to protect our oil reseources.  Very big news.

Everyone knows the war is about oil, but you have a guy who is potentially the next president, admitting it.  Wow.

wow

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2008, 06:34:29 PM »
his policy probably involves borrowing more money from china  ;D

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2008, 06:40:10 PM »
Quote from two republican senators who dealt with McInsane on a regular basis (Bob Smith New Hampshire and Than Cochran Mississippi" :  "The idea of McCain having his finger on the button sends chills up my spine"  "McCain is mentally unstable"

     We deserve the consequences if we elect a crazy senile geezer like MCain.  :-X  He will start world war 3, prepare for a draft and worsening econimic depression

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2008, 06:44:44 PM »
Breaking on Hardball... Mccain quote today:

"I will have an energy policy which will prevent us from having to send our young men into countries in the middle east AGAIN."

He then said we're fighting in the middle east to protect our oil reseources.  Very big news.

Everyone knows the war is about oil, but you have a guy who is potentially the next president, admitting it.  Wow.

Wow.........Mathews is an idiot and you're spin Rob is getting freaking rediculous. I"m quickly learning that everything you hear or read from the left wing liberal shitheads has to be researched for truth because you ain't going to find it with the left loons.

PHOENIX — Republican John McCain was forced to clarify his comments Friday suggesting the Iraq war involved U.S. reliance on foreign oil. He said he was talking about the first Gulf War and not the current conflict.

At issue was a comment he made at a town hall-style meeting Friday morning in Denver.

“My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East,” McCain said.

The expected GOP nominee sought to clarify his comments later, after his campaign plane landed in Phoenix. He said he didn’t mean the U.S. went to war in Iraq five years ago over oil.

“No, no, I was talking about that we had fought the Gulf War for several reasons,” McCain told reporters.

One reason was Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait, he said. “But also we didn’t want him to have control over the oil, and that part of the world is critical to us because of our dependency on foreign oil, and it’s more important than any other part of the world,” he said.

“If the word `again’ was misconstrued, I want us to remove our dependency on foreign oil for national security reasons, and that’s all I mean,” McCain said.

“The Congressional Record is very clear: I said we went to war in Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction,” he said.

It was the second time in as many days that McCain had to clarify his comments. On Thursday, he backed off his assertion that pork-barrel spending led to last year’s deadly bridge collapse in Minneapolis.

McCain is a staunch supporter of the Iraq war, although he criticizes the early handling of it by the Bush administration.

His support for the war has drawn attacks from the Democratic Party, and on Friday, McCain defended himself against television ads that accuse him of advocating a 100-year war in Iraq.

The ads, run by the Democratic National Committee and the liberal group MoveOn.org., tie McCain to President Bush and cite McCain’s comments that there could be an American military presence in Iraq for 100 years.

“One hundred years in Iraq? And you thought no one could be worse than George Bush,” an announcer says in the most recent ad, run by MoveOn.org.

McCain brought up the commercials in Denver, saying they are lies. He doesn’t deny saying “100 years” in connection with U.S. military operations in Iraq. But he said he was clearly referring to a possible peacekeeping force and not a centurylong war, as critics imply.

“You have seen an ad campaign that is mounted against me that says I wanted to stay and fight in Iraq and fight for 100 years,” McCain told about 300 people at the Robert E. Loup Jewish Community Center.

“My friends, it’s a direct falsification, and I’m sorry that political campaigns have to deteriorate in this fashion,” McCain said. “Because there’s legitimate differences between myself and Senator Obama and Senator Clinton on what we should do in Iraq.”

The Democratic presidential candidates want to set a date for withdrawal from Iraq, which McCain argues would lead to chaos and genocide in the Middle East.

“After we win the war in Iraq, and we are succeeding — and it’s long and hard and tough, with enormous sacrifices — then I’m talking about a security arrangement that may or may not be the same kind of thing we had with Korea after the Korean war was over,” he said.

At issue is McCain’s answer, in January, to a question about Bush’s theory that troops could be in Iraq for 50 years.

McCain said: “Maybe 100. As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, that’d be fine with me, and I hope it would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”


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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2008, 06:46:39 PM »
Holy shit Rob....quit posting political rheroric if you don't know whats going on or at the very least post just a little truth!!

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2008, 06:59:26 PM »
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PHOENIX — Republican John McCain was forced to clarify his comments Friday suggesting the Iraq war involved U.S. reliance on foreign oil. He said he was talking about the first Gulf War and not the current conflict.


HAHAHAHA EPIC TRYING TO COVER HIS ASS

       Damn Joe Loco, if brains were postage i doubt you could send a letter across the street  ;D   McNutjob slipped up and told the truth..........brutal lying to cover his fuckkup  ::)

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2008, 07:05:26 PM »
Mccain is a fucking idiot.

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2008, 08:59:32 PM »
Yeah right Traps, just like when the lib press tried to make it out that McCain literally meant we would be in Iraq actually fighting a war for 100 years!!

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2008, 09:16:20 PM »
Joe, all three choices are bad this election as far as candidates still running.  Im an American first, a partisan second.  McCain is probably the worst candidate the GOP has ever put out there.  As bad as Hillary or Obama may be.........nobody is the senile crazy dangerous stooge that McNutcase is.

       I may just sit this one out........ :-X

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2008, 09:22:11 PM »
Joe, all three choices are bad this election as far as candidates still running.  Im an American first, a partisan second.  McCain is probably the worst candidate the GOP has ever put out there.  As bad as Hillary or Obama may be.........nobody is the senile crazy dangerous stooge that McNutcase is.

       I may just sit this one out........ :-X

Good man.

He'll look for any excuse to drag this country into another war.

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2008, 09:23:40 PM »
fuck hillary!

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2008, 11:27:54 PM »
Holy shit Rob....quit posting political rheroric if you don't know whats going on or at the very least post just a little truth!!

I can let our peers decide which one of us "don't know what's going on".

McCain said it, and they jumped all over him.  You posted his 2-page explanation that his team released to stop the shitstorm he caused.  No offense, but him saying we won't have to go to war for oil AGAIN is a lot more honest than a carefully worded document his team writes hours later in response to it.


Think about the freaking propaganda here, that the enemy can use.  A candidate for president, explaining the war was for oil.  Imagine if he's president. Just wonderful.  Great recruiting tool for Al-Q.  Our leader admitting we're there for oil, then saying we'll be there another hundred years... for what again?  Ah yes, oil.  I'm all for a war for oil, but I sure as hell don't want my leader admitting it so they'll have another reason to fight us.

You did this with Rush too - you ignore the initial statements, and only post the "cover my ass with an explanation" statement.  McCain was brutally honest.  We're in a war for oil. 

YOU can say "it's not JUST about oil", but that's horseshit.  If I break into your house, do all the chores, and steal your Xbox on my way out... and I get caught... can I tell the cops all the nice things I did in your place?  No, all they care about is the theft.  Admit we're stealing oil.  You know it's weighing on your christian side.  You're supporting plundering.  Admit it :)

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2008, 01:17:10 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2008, 08:07:01 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2008, 10:13:18 AM »
JoeLoco is a good guy, but im afraid Faux News and Lardass Limbaugh have him completely brainwashed.  :-\

    Joe when we are in a full blown depression and occupying Iran will you admit the neocons/gop have fucked up ?

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2008, 10:58:54 AM »
JoeLoco is a good guy, but im afraid Faux News and Lardass Limbaugh have him completely brainwashed.  :-\

    Joe when we are in a full blown depression and occupying Iran will you admit the neocons/gop have fucked up ?

They had Obama and Clinton. Needless to say O'Reilly made an ass of Hillary. Obama not so bad.

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2008, 11:06:41 AM »
If the war was about oil, we wouldn't be paying almost $4.00 a gallon for gas.

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2008, 11:13:04 AM »
If the war was about oil, we wouldn't be paying almost $4.00 a gallon for gas.

the war is about 2 decades of oil control from iraq.   They're still putting in pipes and the pricks there are still blowing them up everyday.  This year the country finally pumped it and made $40 bil - they're paying for their own reconstruction now.  The oil is being fed to the US 'strategic reserve' for a rainy day.  Bush has been building it up.  hilary says she'll loosen it, which will instantly drop price by 50 cents to $1. 

We've been getting it from Iraq.  Bush has been stashing it.  Not a bad idea, but the result is that prices have soared.  Many in DC have admitted it was about oil.  Now mcCain has.  You do know that cheney negotiated with heads of US oil companies - before 911 - and divided up their fields, which those companies are now drilling.  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2008, 12:09:06 PM »
the war is about 2 decades of oil control from iraq.   They're still putting in pipes and the pricks there are still blowing them up everyday.  This year the country finally pumped it and made $40 bil - they're paying for their own reconstruction now.  The oil is being fed to the US 'strategic reserve' for a rainy day.  Bush has been building it up.  hilary says she'll loosen it, which will instantly drop price by 50 cents to $1. 

We've been getting it from Iraq.  Bush has been stashing it.  Not a bad idea, but the result is that prices have soared.  Many in DC have admitted it was about oil.  Now mcCain has.  You do know that cheney negotiated with heads of US oil companies - before 911 - and divided up their fields, which those companies are now drilling.  ;)

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Re: Big McCain Iraq/Oil gaffe...
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2008, 12:20:19 PM »
My God do you ever give up?

I don't understand.  Bush has been adding oil to our strategic reserve.  It's a national piggy bank of oil for a rainy day.  hilary has said she'll loosen up the reserve - a move I disagree with - I think the bigger the stash, the better, especially when we're buying it in dollars from Iraq.

Are you saying I'm incorrect in any way, in this post?  Please check your facts, read about it, and report back.  Bush *has* been adding to the reserve.  It's why supply is short (even though OPEC output levels are high) and why oil compnay profits are high (same price, less work to dump it into reserve, compared to fgas stations).