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Neocons ADMIT that "War On Terror" Is a Hoax
« on: May 10, 2008, 06:10:44 PM »
Neocons ADMIT that "War On Terror" Is a Hoax


Key war on terror architect Douglas Feith has now confirmed Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Wesley Clark in admitting that the so-called War on Terror is a hoax.

In fact, starting right after 9/11 -- at the latest -- the goal has always been to create "regime change" and instability in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon so as to protect Israel. And the goal was never really to destroy Al Qaeda.

As reported in a new article in Asia Times:

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Three weeks after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, former US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld established an official military objective of not only removing the Saddam Hussein regime by force but overturning the regime in Iran, as well as in Syria and four other countries in the Middle East, according to a document quoted extensively in then-under secretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith's recently published account of the Iraq war decisions. Feith's account further indicates that this aggressive aim of remaking the map of the Middle East by military force and the threat of force was supported explicitly by the country's top military leaders.

Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states...
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General Wesley Clark, who commanded the North Atlantic Treaty Organization bombing campaign in the Kosovo war, recalls in his 2003 book Winning Modern Wars being told by a friend in the Pentagon in November 2001 that the list of states that Rumsfeld and deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz wanted to take down included Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan and Somalia [and Lebanon].

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When this writer asked Feith . . . which of the six regimes on the Clark list were included in the Rumsfeld paper, he replied, "All of them."

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The Defense Department guidance document made it clear that US military aims in regard to those states would go well beyond any ties to terrorism. The document said the Defense Department would also seek to isolate and weaken those states and to "disrupt, damage or destroy" their military capacities - not necessarily limited to weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

Where does Israel come in?

Well, the Asia Times article continues:

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Rumsfeld's paper was given to the White House only two weeks after Bush had approved a US military operation in Afghanistan directed against bin Laden and the Taliban regime. Despite that decision, Rumsfeld's proposal called explicitly for postponing indefinitely US airstrikes and the use of ground forces in support of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance in order to try to catch bin Laden.

Instead, the Rumsfeld paper argued that the US should target states that had supported anti-Israel forces such as Hezbollah and Hamas.

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After the bombing of two US embassies in East Africa [in 1988] by al-Qaeda operatives, State Department counter-terrorism official Michael Sheehan proposed supporting the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance in Afghanistan against bin Laden's sponsor, the Taliban regime. However, senior US military leaders "refused to consider it", according to a 2004 account by Richard H Shultz, Junior, a military specialist at Tufts University.

A senior officer on the Joint Staff told State Department counter-terrorism director Sheehan he had heard terrorist strikes characterized more than once by colleagues as a "small price to pay for being a superpower".

And if "terrorist strikes" were a "small price to pay for being a superpower"- and that is the reason that the U.S. government refused to disrupt the alleged planners of the 9/11 attacks - doesn't that add weight to the claim that the U.S. government intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur? In other words, doesn't this statement by a senior officer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff tend to prove that 9/11 was intentionally allowed to occur as the "New Pearl Harbor" which would allow America to act like "a superpower" and re-make the Middle East in its own (and Israel's) image?

This is not an unreasonable question, especially given that Feith, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and most of the other key architects of the "war on terror" were part of the Project for a New American Century and its plea for a "New Pearl Harbor" to justify expansion of American militarism and regime change in the Middle East.

And remember that many of the key members of PNAC and architects of the "war on terror" had previously created the "Clean Break" strategy for Israel, which called for a policy of war and regime change against Israel's enemies.

The war on terror was never intended to be about fighting terrorism. As even Newsweek has now admitted, the war on terror is a hoax.

 

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George Washington is a pen name. I am using the pen name, with the approval of the publisher, because I have received death threats due to my 9/11 research and writing. I am using a pen name to protect myself and my family.



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Re: Neocons ADMIT that "War On Terror" Is a Hoax
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 06:25:29 PM »
what a hoax?  Israel?  This all seems so familiar, as though a few people have been saying this all along :D

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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 07:53:54 PM »
Gerorge Washington is a pen name because he says retarded shit.


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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 08:51:26 AM »
Stop BLAMING ISRAEL for this because that is what "Captain America", "Uncle Sam", and "Mr. Republican-American" wants the rest of us to do to see if you are or are not anti-semitic.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 12:34:48 PM »
Stop BLAMING ISRAEL for this because that is what "Captain America", "Uncle Sam", and "Mr. Republican-American" wants the rest of us to do to see if you are or are not anti-semitic.
fuck them, I'll tell them exactly what I am.  Anti Zionist, YES...... Anti-Semitic NO and only a zionist would say they're one in the same thing.

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 02:02:57 PM »
Documented facts can be posted on this board and the neo cons will still deny.   Enjoy the food lines when all this hits you in the face... :-\

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 05:42:38 PM »
Well, if the "ASIA Times" printed it!!!!!  I think it was right next to Cosmo the last time I went for a haircut!

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 06:23:25 PM »
Well, if the "ASIA Times" printed it!!!!!  I think it was right next to Cosmo the last time I went for a haircut!
are you saying that the facts presented in the story are bullshit?  If so, cool, list the errors... Forgive me for not getting on the "only shit aired on fox and cnn are worthy" bandwagon ::)

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2008, 06:39:29 PM »
are you saying that the facts presented in the story are bullshit?  If so, cool, list the errors... Forgive me for not getting on the "only shit aired on fox and cnn are worthy" bandwagon ::)

No, no I apologize, the "ASIA Times" is well-reputed in journalistic circles (sarcasm intended).  Coming next from the "News of the World" -  "George W. Bush has Love Child with Martian, Laura to file for divorce!"  Okay, point out where those facts are in error.   Don't all the jounalism majors from Harvard strive to get hired by the "Asia Times"?

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2008, 06:43:50 PM »
No, no I apologize, the "ASIA Times" is well-reputed in journalistic circles (sarcasm intended).  Coming next from the "News of the World" -  "George W. Bush has Love Child with Martian, Laura to file for divorce!"  Okay, point out where those facts are in error.  DUMBASS.  Don't all the jounalism majors from Harvard strive to get hired by the "Asia Times"?
are you saying you hold our current media giants in high regard... haha, because I fucking don't ;D I only asked if you diputed the testimony contained in the article.  Is that a problem for you?  I assumed you called bullshit on something based on.... actually... something?  anything?  please... enthrall us!!!...

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2008, 06:52:55 PM »
are you saying you hold our current media giants in high regard... haha, because I fucking don't ;D I only asked if you diputed the testimony contained in the article.  Is that a problem for you?  I assumed you called bullshit on something based on.... actually... something?  anything?  please... enthrall us!!!...

No, no, I must apologize, please tell us all the other gems that the major media missed that the ASIA Times picked up on (I am expecting something like "U.S. Moon Landing was a Hoax" something in a similar vein). I heard the Reverend Wright was going to be a guest columnist in the next issue, something about HIV being an invention of the U.S. Government.

By the way "testimony" are verbal statements given under OATH. Just though I would "enthrall" you with this little technical deficiency in your statement.


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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2008, 07:00:51 PM »
No, no, I must apologize, please tell us all the other gems that the major media missed that the ASIA Times picked up on (I am expecting something like "U.S. Moon Landing was a Hoax" something in a similar vein). I heard the Reverend Wright was going to be a guest columnist in the next issue, something about HIV being an invention of the U.S. Government.

By the way "testimony" are verbal statements given under OATH. Just though I would "enthrall" you with this little technical deficiency in your statement.


wow, duplicate post... do you want me to delete this shit or what?

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2008, 07:16:41 PM »
wow, duplicate post... do you want me to delete this shit or what?

"The Almighty says 'Don't change the subject, just answer the fucking question.'"

Sure, delete away if you want (by the way, this must be the hard part of being a Moderator, this guy is in my face, do I let him speak or do I find a justification to delete?  Ahh... the weight of Power) , but let me address the substance:

The so-called "question" is FLAWED.  First of all, it is not "testimony" such as would constitute "evidence" in support of "facts."  (Please don't let me confuse you, I am a former U.S. Attorney and I realize this techincal jargon may be frightening to you)  By the way, nothing is duplicative about this point.

Regardless, I will not address a point unreported in any reputable journalistic source. and only set forth in the ASIA Times.  Nor will I recognize statements in Al Jazeera  Sorry, nor will I address stories in The Globe or the Enquirer.  Call it standards, now look in the mirror and say "Will I support any muckraker that supports my point or will I too have standards?"

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2008, 08:56:10 PM »
Sure, delete away if you want (by the way, this must be the hard part of being a Moderator, this guy is in my face, do I let him speak or do I find a justification to delete?  Ahh... the weight of Power) , but let me address the substance:

The so-called "question" is FLAWED.  First of all, it is not "testimony" such as would constitute "evidence" in support of "facts."  (Please don't let me confuse you, I am a former U.S. Attorney and I realize this techincal jargon may be frightening to you)  By the way, nothing is duplicative about this point.

Regardless, I will not address a point unreported in any reputable journalistic source. and only set forth in the ASIA Times.  Nor will I recognize statements in Al Jazeera  Sorry, nor will I address stories in The Globe or the Enquirer.  Call it standards, now look in the mirror and say "Will I support any muckraker that supports my point or will I too have standards?"



So...Mr God.   What are these reputable journal's that meet your limited and shallow veiws?

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2008, 09:15:47 PM »


So...Mr God.   What are these reputable journal's that meet your limited and shallow veiws?

No, no, this is quite enlightening...tell me more about the latest breaking news from the "ASIAN Times"!!

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2008, 09:35:55 PM »
No, no, this is quite enlightening...tell me more about the latest breaking news from the "ASIAN Times"!!


Nice lil gimmick you are.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2008, 09:40:18 PM »

Nice lil gimmick you are.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2008, 09:41:39 PM »
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lol.  You're stealing my line.   :D

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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2008, 09:46:08 PM »
lol.  You're stealing my line.   :D

Sorry BB these lefty punks are sticking their chins out today. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.  Not much of a challenge, I'm going to turn in.  Maybe somebody "of weight" will decide to turn up tomorrow.

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2008, 09:52:58 PM »
Sorry BB these lefty punks are sticking their chins out today. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.  Not much of a challenge, I'm going to turn in.  Maybe somebody "of weight" will decide to turn up tomorrow.



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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2008, 05:28:48 AM »
fuck them, I'll tell them exactly what I am.  Anti Zionist, YES...... Anti-Semitic NO and only a zionist would say they're one in the same thing.

a zionist is a douchebag that lives in America but their loyalty lies in israel


they would see America destroy itself for israel..which we r doing
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2008, 06:29:58 AM »
Sorry BB these lefty punks are sticking their chins out today. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.  Not much of a challenge, I'm going to turn in.  Maybe somebody "of weight" will decide to turn up tomorrow.
LOL... Oh brother...  Real fucking hero arn't ya.  Inturning for Bill O this summer :D

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2008, 06:30:59 AM »


So...Mr God.   What are these reputable journal's that meet your limited and shallow veiws?
lol

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2008, 06:35:11 AM »
Sure, delete away if you want (by the way, this must be the hard part of being a Moderator, this guy is in my face, do I let him speak or do I find a justification to delete?  Ahh... the weight of Power) , but let me address the substance:

The so-called "question" is FLAWED.  First of all, it is not "testimony" such as would constitute "evidence" in support of "facts."  (Please don't let me confuse you, I am a former U.S. Attorney and I realize this techincal jargon may be frightening to you)  By the way, nothing is duplicative about this point.

Regardless, I will not address a point unreported in any reputable journalistic source. and only set forth in the ASIA Times.  Nor will I recognize statements in Al Jazeera  Sorry, nor will I address stories in The Globe or the Enquirer.  Call it standards, now look in the mirror and say "Will I support any muckraker that supports my point or will I too have standards?"
I asked if you wanted it deleted out of curtesty because you did pretty much duplicate post.  I thought I was talking to a broken record... funny shit there...  Like pulling the string on a rambo doll ;D bla bla bla...

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Re: Neocons ADMIT that "War On Terror" Is a Hoax
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2008, 12:40:46 PM »
I think 'hoax' is a word.

I know I'm going out on a limb there.

The US has been using its military and intelligence powers to shape foreign countries's politics for our business purposes for decades and decades--initiating coups, overthrowing governments, intimidating indigenous peoples, outright attacking foreign countries.

In this instance, the nominal War on Terror was shaped to interesect with countries that have nothing to do with 9/11 so that other interests could prosper.

That's why Iraq was invaded.  There's no real debate about that anymore.