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Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« on: May 11, 2008, 10:12:30 AM »
Here is the setting.  Hillary Clinton, behind in primary delegates makes the pitch for Super Delegates which can still bring her the nomination. Her pitch is, look, Obama is unacceptable to the white middle class, his affilations are distinctly anti-white and anti-American, and I have won every swing state that a Democrat would need to win the presidency.  After making this pitch, Super Delegates beging swinging Obama's way.

Why?

The answer appears to be the following.  The Super Delegates are the inner-circle of the Democrat party.  The inner-circle of the Democrat party is not mainstream blue collar Middle America.  Rather, the inner-crcle are elitist "Limosine Liberals" (i.e., Move On.org.) where Anti-America is chic, anti-white is an understandable, patronizing version of the "White Man's Burden," socialism . . .well socialism is always cool to an inner-circle Dem, it  is their Dirty Little Secret that they would gladly share with mainstream America if only they could....

And then Hilly wonders why she lost the race for Super Delegates....

As my seven year old would say "No Duhhhhhh...."

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 10:22:06 AM »
she voted FOR the war in a party that is AGAINST the war.

She's very close to obama on all positions, and destroys him on experience.

She lost because she backed the war.  Period.

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 10:26:42 AM »
she voted FOR the war in a party that is AGAINST the war.

She's very close to obama on all positions, and destroys him on experience.

She lost because she backed the war.  Period.

BUT she won among mainstream, blue collar America. Had the Superdelegate been a mirror of mainstream blue collar America (i.e., The Pitch I alluded to in my prior post) SHE would have won. The reason is simple, the Super Delegates are inner-circle Dems which have nothing to do with mainstream Americana (picture the Limosine Liberals in San Fran sipping Pinot as Obama unveiled his "biterness" speech).

The Dems are in deep deep trouble, yet they appear not to know that they are putting the noose around their own heads come November.

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 12:07:41 PM »
obama is worth 2 mil.

hilary and mccain are worth 100 mil.

nobody will remember the 'bitter' comment the moment obama asks mccain what it's like to be in the 100-million club.

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 12:26:57 PM »
obama is worth 2 mil.

hilary and mccain are worth 100 mil.

nobody will remember the 'bitter' comment the moment obama asks mccain what it's like to be in the 100-million club.

Sure, Americans HATE rich people, like JFK.  Besides, the "bitter comment" had to do with guns and religion.  This will not be forgotten in the general election, rather it will be even a larger issue with a general electorate that is more center than a party primary.  The Dems are in deep, deep trouble with this candidacy.  I could imagine as a political consultant running a commercial with John McCain, very presidential with flag waving in the background saying God Bless America, then split screen with Obama, with Reverand Wright sceeching "God Damn America!!"


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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 12:33:39 PM »
Hillary lost because people don't like her.  Her negative poll numbers are astronomical. 

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 12:33:52 PM »
imo, truly poor people DO cling to guns and religion.  I've lived in a dirt poor trailer park.  they have their bibles, their shotgun, their dogs, their family, and their cable tv dish.  they dont have myspace, they dont have portfolios, political awareness, etc.  They have shorter lifespans due to health insurance lacking (which leads to sooner awareness of religion) and they have security concerns (living in a home with screen doors) so the guns are important.

obama can have all the small issues - like rev wright.  ask anyone who lost their job, savings, or health insurance in the last year who they're voting for...

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Re: Why Did Hillary Fail in the Super Delegate Race?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 01:07:53 PM »
Hillary lost because people don't like her.  Her negative poll numbers are astronomical. 

BB, focus on WHO she won versus who she lost.  She won among whiite blue collar types in swing states, that is why her Super Delegate strategy was flawed from the inception.  I have a thesis for this post (not a Hilly supporter by the way) which I want people to address.

To reiterate:   Hilly's pitch was, I win among middle America, the Super Delegates should recognize this.  The flaw is that Super Delegates (Dem party insiders) have no connection with Middle America.