He had Ben winning the show way back then. I told him the results of the NY Pro. He didnt see any pics. He said that Ben looks great of course, but unfortuanately, Ben has a big head and it really takes away from his shoulder width and overall thickness. He said that Ben will have to put on a ton of size to overcome that. This has probably been brought up on this board before but I just wanted to let you guys know that a judge noticed it back then.