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Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« on: May 14, 2008, 02:50:10 PM »
If very few of the actual pros use the  supplements they endorse, why in hell does anyone buy them?
How does Muscletech get lifters to buy HALO? ::)
Why doesn't everyone just lift and eat ( take a couple basic supplements) or do the real juice like the pros?

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 02:52:26 PM »
If a pro ever admitted to using OTC sups he would loose all street cred from his bros.

HTH  8)

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 02:53:48 PM »
Supplements are good for people who want a boost but don't want to take illegal and harmful drugs.  ::)

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 02:56:00 PM »
Supplements are good for people who want a boost but don't want to take illegal and harmful drugs.  ::)

Creatine and protein never built ANY muscle  ::)

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 02:57:20 PM »
protein never built ANY muscle  ::)

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 02:58:05 PM »
some of them work. the pre workout ones will at least make you more energized and give you a better pump

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 02:58:30 PM »
If very few of the actual pros use the  supplements they endorse, why in hell does anyone buy them?
How does Muscletech get lifters to buy HALO? ::)
Why doesn't everyone just lift and eat ( take a couple basic supplements) or do the real juice like the pros?

90% of the people who read this board or getting in a gym remotely resembling bodybuilder are on the real deal which is hormones

9% are playing with m1t and pro hormones and all kind of igfs none controled in america type of products liquid clen liquid this liquid that

the rest 1%  dont train
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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 02:59:12 PM »
i get by on 120g max a day of protein

people neglect the importance of carbs.

after trianing today at around half 3 i never ate anything till half 6. am i fussed no. its cos the body does its job fine without us being pedantic

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 03:00:33 PM »
90% of the people who read this board or getting in a gym remotely resembling bodybuilder are on the real deal which is hormones

9% are playing with m1t and pro hormones and all kind of igfs none controled in america type of products liquid clen liquid this liquid that

the rest 1%  dont train

why do you make such sweeping statements

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 03:03:52 PM »
why do you make such sweeping statements

because i have the priivelege to look into customer lists
in addition why hide the truth ,,a 5'9 dotn walk around at 10% 230 unless he got hormone going in the blood at higher levels than average male PERIOD
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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 03:05:59 PM »
yes but how many 5'9 230lb guys at 10% do claim to be natural? seriously i cant think of any on this board.

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 03:15:06 PM »
support the sport
buy supplements
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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 03:24:03 PM »
support the sport
buy supplements

support my nuts.

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 03:58:31 PM »
because i have the priivelege to look into customer lists
in addition why hide the truth ,,a 5'9 dotn walk around at 10% 230 unless he got hormone going in the blood at higher levels than average male PERIOD
I know, anybody BIGGER than YOU has go to be juiced to the gills ::)
I have meet plenty of guys, just like you over the years and they all have the same lame excuse as to why they are NOT a good bodybuilder....drugs.

Ok, on a serious note, you act like you have all these "customer lists" and know all about what drugs go where and to whom,etc. Maybe you do , maybe you don't ???
Unless you post who you really are and post some verified facts, you will remain another clever guy with a cool internet name,and some interesting story that is about it.
Why do I care or get offended by what you post?
It gives everyone the impression they have to use a bunch of drugs, just to compete ina local or state show.
I have seen natural and/ or low dose guys and gals do very well in various regional contests.
I would love to see the end of extreme  and ILLEGAL drug use in bodybuilding. I say this because I sincerely believe bodybuilders can look good without a boatload of drugs. I think bodybuilding is the best sport  and I see a lot of potential for it. Get rid of the crazy drug regimes and worship of freakish size and you have the ideal healthy sport.

Granted some of what you say may be true for the hardcore world and elite pros.I admit you can't compete in the IFBB pros without a fair amount of sauce. You slander guys like Skip LaCour who has passed all kinds of drug tests.
What is he guilty of? he has an impressive physique and so he must be juiced? Forget  his endless record of passed drug tests and the facts, just go with the rumors  :-\
It is easy to post stuff that you can make up without any real way to verify and then speak in some technical jargon and get some to buy your "BS"...sorry GH15, I don't.

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 04:10:01 PM »
gh15 is the type of guy who goes "thats not impressive,,,friend for u a gear user, ive seen more better naturals in any gym i went" after you admit to using some, but for a natural "your not natural friend,,,horminized to the max dont lie to us here, willing to bet gh also bit of insulin now n again"  ;D


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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2008, 04:12:34 PM »
i get by on 120g max a day of protein

people neglect the importance of carbs.

after trianing today at around half 3 i never ate anything till half 6. am i fussed no. its cos the body does its job fine without us being pedantic

good point, why only 120g??


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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2008, 04:20:16 PM »
If very few of the actual pros use the  supplements they endorse, why in hell does anyone buy them?
How does Muscletech get lifters to buy HALO? ::)
Why doesn't everyone just lift and eat ( take a couple basic supplements) or do the real juice like the pros?

because people dont know that pros disregard supplements, they just assume they take the supplements along with the drugs.
Also. with all the marketing today for supplements (Flex magazine's every second page is a supplement advertisement) they give audiences the impression that muscletech products are more beneficial to the body than food.

The description of these products are grossly over the top, so pedantic that someone would think its alien technology. They promise the world but most of the time they don't deliver.

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2008, 04:59:22 PM »
I know, anybody BIGGER than YOU has go to be juiced to the gills ::)
I have meet plenty of guys, just like you over the years and they all have the same lame excuse as to why they are NOT a good bodybuilder....drugs.

Ok, on a serious note, you act like you have all these "customer lists" and know all about what drugs go where and to whom,etc. Maybe you do , maybe you don't ???
Unless you post who you really are and post some verified facts, you will remain another clever guy with a cool internet name,and some interesting story that is about it.
Why do I care or get offended by what you post?
It gives everyone the impression they have to use a bunch of drugs, just to compete ina local or state show.
I have seen natural and/ or low dose guys and gals do very well in various regional contests.
I would love to see the end of extreme  and ILLEGAL drug use in bodybuilding. I say this because I sincerely believe bodybuilders can look good without a boatload of drugs. I think bodybuilding is the best sport  and I see a lot of potential for it. Get rid of the crazy drug regimes and worship of freakish size and you have the ideal healthy sport.

Granted some of what you say may be true for the hardcore world and elite pros.I admit you can't compete in the IFBB pros without a fair amount of sauce. You slander guys like Skip LaCour who has passed all kinds of drug tests.
What is he guilty of? he has an impressive physique and so he must be juiced? Forget  his endless record of passed drug tests and the facts, just go with the rumors  :-\
It is easy to post stuff that you can make up without any real way to verify and then speak in some technical jargon and get some to buy your "BS"...sorry GH15, I don't.

first of all friend NO ONE but few professionals and powerlifters is bigger than gh15,,im 2 howies but not as fat as one howie if you get what im saying

now ,,this has nothign to do with gh15,,it has to do with facts,,the fact that you were or are npc judge just make npc look horrid ,,you ut bad light on the judging honesty by saying you know this and that compete naturally ,,

now,,what gh15 is saying to you is that you know WELL that you been into the hormones and so called drugs in the 1980s when no one knew a from b and now days the guys at your nothing to write home about level from the 80s use double and tripe those doses and more products,,

howie, who are you fooling here? yourself ? defenitely not because you know very well that you would never step on stage if did grow to begin with on hormones after intial growth stopped past first 3 years in gym

gh15 doesnt say that professional only use hormones,,gh15 is saying that EVERY ONE THAT LOOK LIKE ANYTHING USES HORMONES AND THAT MEANS THE GYM RAT WITH THE SKINNY LEGS AND AWESOME UPPER BODY ,,,THE BLACK GUY WITH DETAILED BIG ARMS AND NO CHEST THAT BEEN IN GYM FOR 5 YEARS AND ALWAYS LOOK THE SAME YET MAINTAIN BIG SIZE AND LOW BODYFAT% BUT DOESNT CARE MUCH FOR ANYTHING DETAILED THUS REACHED PLATUE EVEN ON HORMONES,,THE GIRL THAT WALKED AROUND WITH FAKE TANNING BAD AND NAILS DONE AND SHOW TIGHT MIDSECTION AND TONED ARMS IN HER LATE MID 30S,,,THE GIRLS WHO NEEVR WANNA GET OLD AND IS SINGLE FOREVER AND HAS PSYCOLOGICAL PROBLEMS AND USE GH GIVEN TO HER BY A FRIEND THAT GET IT FROM HIS FRIEND THAT IS AN AIDS PACIENT  BECAUSE HE WANNA GET INTO HER PANTIES AND INDEED GET THERE etc etc

if you sit and see guys as npc judge and you tell me they are natural on regional shows? why are you lieing to those kids here? what benefit does it give to you to even say this rubbish? i understand if you go judge local countryclub competition or county competition and see 2-3 guys natural that you place in 3rd place out of 5 competitors....they can be naturals and thus never win even the country club competition BUT the lies you give here about regional is crazy misleading in its nature

hormones to the bodybuilder ESPECIALLY COMPETETIVE AT ALL LEVELS..is like water for the human body,,the smallest guys are usually the ones who juice as much as the biggest guys ...they just cant grow so they polish their size wether its due to height or just average rsponse they polish whatever god gave them with the hormone help

with out hormones ...milos doesnt have a business,,with out hormones luke wood would never make it to win a local competition he would probably sit in austalian gym winning mr aussi gym something among the 100 members,,with out hormones ben johnson wouldnt break world record in 1988,,with out hormones armstrong wouldnt win tour de france he was fuckin finished and had cancer the guy was on so much epo and still is american hero by lieing exactly with out hormones barry would still be 160lb skinny black boy,,with out hormones alex a would never get to be chizeled and look like atonomy chart,,with out hormones tropopin would sit home eating nachos and  woulnt step on stage,,with out hormones that moron kid lunch? whatever his name is wouldnt walk around 280lb he would be sitting at 220 in a good day at 18-20%,,with out hormones there would be a lot less people in the gym that are actually bodybuild ..it will be similar to now days in america when gym population is down big time when it comes to bodybuilder because we closed china to a degree,,with out hormones you boards wouldnt have over 15 thousand member and you are talking here about multiple boards,,with out hormones you wouldnt walk around saying this guy or that guy look great and actually go to see him flex,,with out hormones you would be a walking water fountain with midsection at 40 inches due to creatine use that doesnt do shit no matter what scammers tell you ,,with out hormones you would still think protein powder does something to you anabolically while in reality if any poweder does anything to yoru physiqe it has hormones in it ..very easy to put some dianabol poweder especially dirty grades from china that cost pennys and have very low dose of hormone but still work minimally to give beter results than any natural product there is,,with out hormones you wouldnt have the problems hrt clinic have in america because so many guys and girls wanna join them for hrt,,with out hormones guys like phil heath would be nothing comparing to the meso england black guy from this board that i belive eis truly natural,,with out hormones you would have 20 people in bodybuilding show all family members insted of the 100s or 1000s you got now,,,with out hormones you wouldnt be able to present dry sliced physiqes ,,seperation would not be noticable because when you done diet you wouldnt have much muscle left!,with out hormones guys wouldnt be able to walk around saying they are 250lb at 7% ...

gh15 just come to clarify reality and you howie is part of generation where this reality is hard to tell to because for you natural and hormonized is in a way the same thing...what is clen...what is couple pills ...what is low doses...oh i try this igf it is legal ...oh this is just m1t...its hard to actually talk sense to someone that belong in generation that got the shaft closed on them and end of 80s beggining of 90s got punishment and got hormones undeer control in their homeland,,,
you have good intentions but you dont understand that the hormone use is part HUGE part of bodybuilding,,natural guys never win shows,,they never look thick and ripped,,they always look like their girlfriend is bigger than them,,also this idea that natural means oen year off drugs is ridicoulous because inorder to be natural you shoudl never be on drugs period,,never start them to begin with,,

it got to a point today that i see bodybuilders coming to me saying they are natural or clean because their shipment got delayed and they been off for 3 weeks...it got to be very bad and i blame your generation for the creation of generation nothingess attitue twars bodybuilding

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2008, 05:05:04 PM »
If very few of the actual pros use the  supplements they endorse, why in hell does anyone buy them?



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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2008, 05:10:12 PM »
smart people use supplements

in the future, it will replace real food
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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2008, 05:17:21 PM »
At least GH15 sells stuff that works unlike so much of the SHIT Pros endorse.FFS these clowns will say and do anything for sponsorship.They are starving they make very little Money.So why believe anything they say????Just ask Milos his training clients has slowed to Nil because he is now selling his own snake oil.Fukin Wake Up.oh and "HARDEN THE FUK UP"

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2008, 05:19:37 PM »
smart people use supplements

in the future, it will replace real food

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 05:45:35 PM »
Get rid of the crazy drug regimes and worship of freakish size and you have the ideal healthy sport.

Never gonna happen. There will be more and more drugs, hopefully better drugs. There's never going to be less chemicals in bodybuilding. Can't turn back the clock.


I have seen natural and/ or low dose guys and gals do very well in various regional contests.
I would love to see the end of extreme  and ILLEGAL drug use in bodybuilding. I say this because I sincerely believe bodybuilders can look good without a boatload of drugs.

You are lying to yourself. You admitted that you enjoy the freak factor as much as the next fan.
If you really mean what you say only go to natural shows where the guys are smaller. Boycott the IFBB since you HATE extreme drug use. Put your money where your mouth is. But I bet you aren't that exited about Layne Norton's next contest.

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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 05:47:47 PM »
You are lying to yourself. You admitted that you enjoy the freak factor as much as the next fan.
If you really mean what you say only go to natural shows where the guys are smaller. Boycott the IFBB since you HATE extreme drug use. Put your money where your mouth is. But I bet you aren't that exited about Layne Norton's next contest.

hahah exactly---this fool loves teh IFBB and even gave props to DA the other day----and in the next post he rants against drugs ???


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Re: Blockhead's anti-supplement rant
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 05:52:42 PM »
It is the opposite i think...Pros on the sauce use more legal supplements then the average joe...I have heard many times that steroids increase the body's response to protein in using it for muscle growth...So it would make sense to use as much supplementation protein wise then someone off the sauce...

Someone off the sauce using the same supplements as a pro is more or less wasting money....