Author Topic: Russians: We will bury you. (Read 2695 times)

240 is Back · « **on:** May 16, 2008, 07:39:42 AM »

Remember a few decades back, the Russians said to the USA: "We will bury you"

Nixon and Reagan then negotiated with them.

Were they appeasers?

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:48:45 AM »

Bush has finally proved how big of a POS he is by talking trash about his fello Americans in Another country..

War-Horse · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:54:14 AM »

The alternative to negotiations has led to the downfall of american power. We cant even beat some Iraqi farmers throwing pipe bombs. The whole world has seen this.

Iran would kick our ass if we didnt nuke em.....more than pipe bombs they have!!

240 is Back · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:54:50 AM »

it might be a good thing.

People will now realize THERE IS A DIFFERENCE between negoatiations and appeasing. The word "appeaser" is thrown around nonstop, but is describes someone who gives something to another country. Simply negotiating - EVERY LEADER does that. And when you realize that Bush himself has negotiated with iran, libya, Nkorea, and other terror states, well, you realize this is a big lie.

One good thing is that I'm not seeing people jump to call obama an appeaser here on getbig. Perhaps people are smarter than that. Mccain saying "we cannot negotiate with them, they said this or that". EVERYONE talks shit. Russia did it, and we still talked to them. NKorea set off fcking nukes and fired rockets at hawaii on the 4th of july 06, you kids remember that?

Bush talked to them. After they said they'd destroy us, after they set off a nuke, and after they fired missiles at hawaii on july 4th (the missiles did'tn make it all the way).

Also, didn't bush send them a million barrels of oil, to cut it out?

hey, just who is the appeaser now? LMAO...

War-Horse · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:05:08 AM »

Play on words. This admin is a master at it. Amazing that people fall for it.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:14:10 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 16, 2008, 07:39:42 AM

Remember a few decades back, the Russians said to the USA: "We will bury you"

Nixon and Reagan then negotiated with them.

Were they appeasers?

Wasn't that just a line in Rocky 4

youandme · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:35:10 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on May 16, 2008, 08:14:10 AM

Wasn't that just a line in Rocky 4

no a Khrushchev said it after they had launched sputnik (1959) said it at the UN (1960), all he said to all nations was that "history is on our side, we will bury you"

this was before kissenger, and his detente, at the height of the cold war.

youandme · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:36:05 AM »

1957 sputnik

Decker · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:36:13 AM »

He's joking.

240 is Back · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:38:39 AM »

Bush, 2002: said NK is a terrorist state.

NK, 2005: Set off a nuke. Said they would destroy us.
NK, 2006: Fired missiles at hawaii on july 4th.

Bush, 2007: Gave NK a ton of oil to stop firing missiles at us.

Bush, 2008: Negotiating with N Korea this week actually.

Um, who is the appeaser, again?

youandme · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:40:41 AM »

it's called brinkmanship 240, we give chances and push them, they make the wrong move for the world to see.

Look at that in reverse, it makes N Korea look like the aggressors

OzmO · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:44:21 AM »

Quote from: youandme on May 16, 2008, 08:40:41 AM

it's called brinkmanship 240, we give chances and push them, they make the wrong move for the world to see.

Look at that in reverse, it makes N Korea look like the aggressors

It worked well with Hitler. He really looked like an aggressor in the end.

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:54:03 AM »

Quote from: youandme on May 16, 2008, 08:40:41 AM

it's called brinkmanship 240, we give chances and push them, they make the wrong move for the world to see.

Look at that in reverse, it makes N Korea look like the aggressors

Explain this in detail.

Brinksmanship = giving the enemy what they want?

Parker · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:59:45 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 16, 2008, 08:54:03 AM

Explain this in detail.

Brinksmanship = giving the enemy what they want?

No, making it seem like they are getting what they want. They are like the bad child who wants "special" attention, they got the attention, but it just showed that they were bad children, and nothing more.

240 is Back · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2008, 09:48:37 AM »

Quote from: Parker on May 16, 2008, 08:59:45 AM

No, making it seem like they are getting what they want. They are like the bad child who wants "special" attention, they got the attention, but it just showed that they were bad children, and nothing more.

Don't you think a million barrels of oil could have better served US than NKorea?
"They got attention"? No, they got a big pile of fucking oil from us.

They shot missiles at us - not words - fucking icbm's. And we APPEASED them by giving them a big fucking pile of oil.

OzmO · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2008, 10:08:26 AM »

Quote from: Parker on May 16, 2008, 08:59:45 AM

No, making it seem like they are getting what they want. They are like the bad child who wants "special" attention, they got the attention, but it just showed that they were bad children, and nothing more.

It worked well with Hitler. Good strategy

headhuntersix · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2008, 02:24:37 PM »

We talked to who...yeah we talked meanwhiile we funded the Mujih's and every other anit-communits insurgency to the tune of billions, until the Soviets folded. U can't talk to people who don't care about their own people, economies, culture, their kids etc.

MB_722 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2008, 02:29:31 PM »

sorry i had to

headhuntersix · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2008, 02:32:14 PM »

I must break u.....nice

JasonH · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2008, 02:54:22 PM »

Quote from: MB_722 on May 16, 2008, 02:29:31 PM

sorry i had to

Parker · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:46:40 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on May 16, 2008, 10:08:26 AM

It worked well with Hitler. Good strategy

No, with Hitler, France decide to strip the bad boy ( Germany ) of all it's shit, then let hitler stay in a jail wear he wear a suit and read the damn paper, and write damn books.

Plus it was different time, now it's a world community..

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 16, 2008, 09:48:37 AM

Don't you think a million barrels of oil could have better served US than NKorea?
"They got attention"? No, they got a big pile of fucking oil from us.

They shot missiles at us - not words - fucking icbm's. And we APPEASED them by giving them a big fucking pile of oil.

They sure could benefited us, but you have a wacko man shooting missiles, that never went any where, and has a million man army, that ain't going any here. Let's face it, the missiles were basically duds, that missed their mark, and had they'd hit, Lil Hitler would have more than the DVD for Wargames on his desk.

Best to kust talk to the dude, sort out the the kid who is crying for attention, and won't here a pip.

A teething baby always shuts up once they have their pacifier.

MidniteRambo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2008, 09:03:22 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 16, 2008, 07:39:42 AM

Remember a few decades back, the Russians said to the USA: "We will bury you"

Nixon and Reagan then negotiated with them.

Were they appeasers?

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall", that was Reagan's so-called negotiation. Try confronting the Russians on every front and breaking the back of their economy in an Arms Race they could never win. Try fighting communism at opportunity. Sure, I buy it, that "Pansy" Obama wanting to fawn all over Mahmoud Ahmadinejad so he will be invited to cocktail parties in Paris is the same thing. Why not? HAH! No wait . . . DOUBLE HAH!

Mr. Hussein-Obama, I remember Ronald Reagan, I voted for Mr. Reagan, Mr. Hussein-Obama, you are no Ronald Reagan!

youandme · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2008, 09:23:47 PM »

Quote from: MidniteRambo on May 16, 2008, 09:03:22 PM

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall", that was Reagan's so-called negotiation. Try confronting the Russians on every front and breaking the back of their economy in an Arms Race they could never win. Try fighting communism at opportunity. Sure, I buy it, that "Pansy" Obama wanting to fawn all over Mahmoud Ahmadinejad so he will be invited to cocktail parties in Paris is the same thing. Why not? HAH! No wait . . . DOUBLE HAH!

Mr. Hussein-Obama, I remember Ronald Reagan, I voted for Mr. Reagan, Mr. Hussein-Obama, you are no Ronald Reagan!

Looking into his presidency, he had an agenda and played it like a fiddle. People may bad mouth him, but he made the right moves.

Russia crumbled from within initiating economic policies such as glasnot, and perostrokia signaled they were falling away from socialism, and breaking down nationilism, by the 60's they had I think 45% of households with televisions, can't have your world seeing the outside worlds fruits when you with hold them.

brinkmanship- pushing your enemy to the brink basically

Quote from: Parker on May 16, 2008, 08:46:40 PM

No, with Hitler, France decide to strip the bad boy ( Germany ) of all it's shit, then let hitler stay in a jail wear he wear a suit and read the damn paper, and write damn books.

France did not imprison Hitler.

MidniteRambo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2008, 09:32:22 PM »

Quote from: youandme on May 16, 2008, 09:23:47 PM

brinkmanship- pushing your enemy to the brink basically

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Or, "Obmaship"- pushing your enemy to quiche plate basically

240 is Back · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2008, 11:25:31 PM »

Quote from: Parker on May 16, 2008, 08:46:40 PM

They sure could benefited us, but you have a wacko man shooting missiles, that never went any where, and has a million man army, that ain't going any here. Let's face it, the missiles were basically duds, that missed their mark, and had they'd hit, Lil Hitler would have more than the DVD for Wargames on his desk.

Best to kust talk to the dude, sort out the the kid who is crying for attention, and won't here a pip.

A teething baby always shuts up once they have their pacifier.

Dude, you're saying we should pander - give oil to people who SHOOT MISSILES AT US?

WTF? Just because they didn't hit us? WTF? That's the most appeasing attitude i've ever heard.

Give them a million barrels of oil to politely ask them to STOP SHOOTING MISSILES AT US and SETTING OFF NUKES?

I hope you're being sarcastic here dude. Bush appeased NK. Period. He's bitching because Obama wants to negotiate with a terror state. Well, Bush himself labeled them a terror state, then he gave a terror state what they wanted. I hope you're kidding.