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Shocking excerpts of confidential recordings recently released under the Freedom of Information Act feature former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld talking with top military analysts about how a flagging Neo-Con political agenda could be successfully restored with the aid of another terrorist attack on America.

The tape also includes a conversation where Rumsfeld and the military analysts agree on the possible necessity of installing a brutal dictator in Iraq to oversee U.S. interests.

The tapes were released as part of the investigation into the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program in which top military analysts were hired to propagandize for the Iraq war in the corporate medi

 The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less


Rumsfeld and one of the military analysts agree that Iraq could use a "Syngman Rhee" to take control of Iraq. Syngman Rhee was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. If the invasion of Iraq was about liberating the Iraqis from a tyrant in the form of Saddam Hussein why is Rumsfeld talking about installing an even more brutal dictator?


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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 04:11:50 AM »
Ok loyal righty sheeple...  any comments?

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 10:00:10 AM »
Ok loyal righty sheeple...  any comments?

*crickets*

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 10:14:22 AM »
Shocking excerpts of confidential recordings recently released under the Freedom of Information Act feature former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld talking with top military analysts about how a flagging Neo-Con political agenda could be successfully restored with the aid of another terrorist attack on America.

The tape also includes a conversation where Rumsfeld and the military analysts agree on the possible necessity of installing a brutal dictator in Iraq to oversee U.S. interests.

The tapes were released as part of the investigation into the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program in which top military analysts were hired to propagandize for the Iraq war in the corporate medi

 The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less


Rumsfeld and one of the military analysts agree that Iraq could use a "Syngman Rhee" to take control of Iraq. Syngman Rhee was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. If the invasion of Iraq was about liberating the Iraqis from a tyrant in the form of Saddam Hussein why is Rumsfeld talking about installing an even more brutal dictator?



I have to agree with Rumsfeld assessment that we in America have a low threat level perception, but that is due to many US citizens have a short attention span. Another attack might just send us down hill , and not just the economy, but down in into a oblivion of ignorance. This time, the world might just say we deserved it.

I don't find it odd that they were discussing that, but in terms of helping the neo-con agenda, that's basicially assuming everything goes according to plan.. And installing a ruthless dictator, that only answers to the US...They are known to bite the hand that feeds them.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 10:37:56 AM »
but that is due to many US citizens have a short attention span.
and there are a growing number that have just become wise to their game.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 10:47:10 AM »
I have to agree with Rumsfeld assessment that we in America have a low threat level perception, but that is due to many US citizens have a short attention span.

Or maybe it has to do with the fact that the level of actual threat is almost non exisitant.

I mean everything we heard so far from this adminisration is that the military presence in Iraq is making Americans safer, so isnt logical that they would feel safe? Or maybe Rumsfield is really saying the mission in Iraq is doing fuck all for our safety and we should still be running away from our own shadows cause Al Quada might jump out of it to get us. What are we suppose to do, live in fear until some NeoCons tell us everything is ok, don't hold your breath.

What a scam.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 11:11:54 AM »
Or maybe it has to do with the fact that the level of actual threat is almost non exisitant.

I mean everything we heard so far from this adminisration is that the military presence in Iraq is making Americans safer, so isnt logical that they would feel safe? Or maybe Rumsfield is really saying the mission in Iraq is doing fuck all for our safety and we should still be running away from our own shadows cause Al Quada might jump out of it to get us. What are we suppose to do, live in fear until some NeoCons tell us everything is ok, don't hold your breath.

What a scam.

Quite true, it's funny, unless some NeoCon says, "we're okay", but let someone else say it, they aren't believable...and labeled.   

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 04:48:15 PM »
Shocking excerpts of confidential recordings recently released under the Freedom of Information Act feature former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld talking with top military analysts about how a flagging Neo-Con political agenda could be successfully restored with the aid of another terrorist attack on America.

The tape also includes a conversation where Rumsfeld and the military analysts agree on the possible necessity of installing a brutal dictator in Iraq to oversee U.S. interests.

The tapes were released as part of the investigation into the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program in which top military analysts were hired to propagandize for the Iraq war in the corporate medi

 The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less


Rumsfeld and one of the military analysts agree that Iraq could use a "Syngman Rhee" to take control of Iraq. Syngman Rhee was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. If the invasion of Iraq was about liberating the Iraqis from a tyrant in the form of Saddam Hussein why is Rumsfeld talking about installing an even more brutal dictator?




Ill bet Olbermann on  MSNBC has this on this week.   At least someone is looking out for americans by exposing these constant corruptions to americans.   Dan abrahms is working on getting Rove in the hotseat too!!! ;D

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 06:34:41 PM »
i say the same things everyday.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror

tell me that statement is incorrect. nothing in what he said supports the comment of 'neo-con agenda'.

someone sets off a bomb in the subway tonight. tomorrow nobody will say a word about surveillance or phone taps or extra security.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 06:56:23 PM »
i say the same things everyday.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror

tell me that statement is incorrect. nothing in what he said supports the comment of 'neo-con agenda'.

someone sets off a bomb in the subway tonight. tomorrow nobody will say a word about surveillance or phone taps or extra security.

You never take your blinders off, do you?

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 07:16:23 PM »
You never take your blinders off, do you?

huh?

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 07:40:07 PM »
Exactly.  ;)

oh now i get it. just like the cock you never take out of your mouth

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2008, 10:24:11 PM »
oh now i get it. just like the cock you never take out of your mouth

LOL. Bindare got you good... ;D


BTW  we're no safer now than 7 yrs ago, in fact quite the opposite.  So quit supporting another staged attack like 9/11.......are you for real?

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2008, 10:31:52 PM »
oh now i get it. just like the cock you never take out of your mouth

Let me guess, you missed the pyschological testing part of your training to be a police officer.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2008, 08:08:26 AM »
Shocking excerpts of confidential recordings recently released under the Freedom of Information Act feature former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld talking with top military analysts about how a flagging Neo-Con political agenda could be successfully restored with the aid of another terrorist attack on America.

The tape also includes a conversation where Rumsfeld and the military analysts agree on the possible necessity of installing a brutal dictator in Iraq to oversee U.S. interests.

The tapes were released as part of the investigation into the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program in which top military analysts were hired to propagandize for the Iraq war in the corporate medi

 The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less


Rumsfeld and one of the military analysts agree that Iraq could use a "Syngman Rhee" to take control of Iraq. Syngman Rhee was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. If the invasion of Iraq was about liberating the Iraqis from a tyrant in the form of Saddam Hussein why is Rumsfeld talking about installing an even more brutal dictator?



This is a CT'ers buffet.


Interesting............. .........  no link? 

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2008, 09:55:24 AM »
I'll post the actual audio itself, just give me little while to find it again.

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2008, 10:04:33 AM »
I'll post the actual audio itself, just give me little while to find it again.

np thanks   :)

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Re: Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2008, 10:11:15 AM »
blah the link to the whole version wont work. oh well.

This one talks about installing a dictator that was worse than Saddam and call the current Iraqi leader a wind sock.

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/160508clip2.mp3