ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - FROM RONNIE COLEMAN HIMSELF!

[NeoSeminole]

hahha narsissydeity still trying to prove his point, how sad

tell me about it. Even his beloved Flex magazine agrees Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

Peter McGough – Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

unknown - Flex, March 2008

"NUMBER ONE: RONNIE COLEMAN, 2001
Simply the best physique I’ve ever seen onstage. At 245 pounds King Ron was full and shredded from head-to-toe: his cuts being deeper than Bill Gates’ pockets. His delts, arms and chest were spectacular, his back really beyond description. Ten seconds after he first walked out the contest was over."

[benz]

HAHAHA he wont recover, dorian will never reply to his emails, just like huge ronnie did to my emails 

[CigaretteMan]

it was mentioned on Ironman's report of that year's Olympia. See how easy that was?

  Report where it is stated that Ronnie defeated Jay by more points than Dorian defeated Kevin at the 1995 Olympia. See how easy that was?

do you know what dominance means? Apparently not b/c you invented your own definition. The disparity between Ronnie and Jay >>> Dorian and Kevin.

  First of all, you don't know if that's true. Where are the score cards showing a greater margin of points for Ronnie over Jay than Dorian over Kevin? Scondly, even if the gap between Ronnie and Jay were bigger than the gap between Dorian and Kevin, it still wouldn't matter because Kevin is a much better bodybuilder than Jay, so defeating him is a bigger challenge.

Shawn and Flex defeated larger competitors with their conditioning and symmetry. Your point? Jay had none of those advantages over Ronnie and was over 20 lbs lighter. What's your excuse now, bitch?

  Bitch? Lol...you can't overcome your lack of intellectual faculties with emotional outbursts, as it only makes you look even dumber than you already do.

  And Jay got defeated by Ronnie in 2003 because Ronnie had a better package of mass&symmetry&shape, not only because he had a size advantage like you say. So, your argument that Ronnie's win over Jay was more dominant than Dorian's win over Kevin because Ronnie enjoyed a greater size advantage over Jay than Dorian enjoyed over Kevin is redundant, because Kevin's structure, shape and symmetry are vastly superior to Jay's. The greater gap in mass between Ronnie and Jay is much easier to overcome than the smaller gap in mass between Dorian and Kevin because Kevin had aesthetics, symmetry and proportions that Jay did not.

[Palpatine Q]

  Report where it is stated that Ronnie defeated Jay by more points than Dorian defeated Kevin at the 1995 Olympia. See how easy that was?

  First of all, you don't know if that's true. Where are the score cards showing a greater margin of points for Ronnie over Jay than Dorian over Kevin? Scondly, even if the gap between Ronnie and Jay were bigger than the gap between Dorian and Kevin, it still wouldn't matter because Kevin is a much better bodybuilder than Jay, so defeating him is a bigger challenge.

  Bitch? Lol...you can't overcome your lack of intellectual faculties with emotional outbursts, as it only makes you look even dumber than you already do.

  And Jay got defeated by Ronnie in 2003 because Ronnie had a better package of mass&symmetry&shape, not only because he had a size advantage like you say. So, your argument that Ronnie's win over Jay was more dominant than Dorian's win over Kevin because Ronnie enjoyed a greater size advantage over Jay than Dorian enjoyed over Kevin is redundant, because Kevin's structure, shape and symmetry are vastly superior to Jay's. The greater gap in mass between Ronnie and Jay is much easier to overcome than the smaller gap in mass between Dorian and Kevin because Kevin had aesthetics, symmetry and proportions that Jay did not.

You mutthafukkkas are really starting to split hairs now

[chaos]

You mutthafukkkas are really starting to split hairs now

There is a 1700 page thread around here somewhere of all kinds of hair splitting.

Amazing how much effort some people will put into arguing about which oiled up muscle guy was better.

[New Hank Wood]

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[Palpatine Q]

There is a 1700 page thread around here somewhere of all kinds of hair splitting.

Amazing how much effort some people will put into arguing about which oiled up muscle guy was better.

Oh that's easy....It's Doronnie Catesman

[NeoSeminole]

Report where it is stated that Ronnie defeated Jay by more points than Dorian defeated Kevin at the 1995 Olympia. See how easy that was?

show me where I claimed Ronnie defeated Jay by more points than Dorian defeated Kevin. Good luck!

First of all, you don't know if that's true. Where are the score cards showing a greater margin of points for Ronnie over Jay than Dorian over Kevin? Scondly, even if the gap between Ronnie and Jay were bigger than the gap between Dorian and Kevin, it still wouldn't matter because Kevin is a much better bodybuilder than Jay, so defeating him is a bigger challenge.

ha ha ha, are you f*cking kidding me? Anyone with 2 eyes and a brain can see the disparity between 03 Ronnie and Jay was much greater than 95 Dorian and Kevin.

Bitch? Lol...you can't overcome your lack of intellectual faculties with emotional outbursts, as it only makes you look even dumber than you already do.

sure, b*tch. Whatever you say. I love how you think I can't control my "emotional outbursts" when, in reality, I'm just toying with you at this point for my own amusement.

And Jay got defeated by Ronnie in 2003 because Ronnie had a better package of mass&symmetry&shape, not only because he had a size advantage like you say. So, your argument that Ronnie's win over Jay was more dominant than Dorian's win over Kevin because Ronnie enjoyed a greater size advantage over Jay than Dorian enjoyed over Kevin is redundant, because Kevin's structure, shape and symmetry are vastly superior to Jay's. The greater gap in mass between Ronnie and Jay is much easier to overcome than the smaller gap in mass between Dorian and Kevin because Kevin had aesthetics, symmetry and proportions that Jay did not.

I don't give a shit how good Kevin was compared to Jay. That was never my argument to begin with, idiot. I took issue with your comment that 95 Dorian's win was the most dominant win by any Mr. Olympia. You are wrong.

[NarcissisticDeity]

tell me about it. Even his beloved Flex magazine agrees Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

Peter McGough – Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

unknown - Flex, March 2008

"NUMBER ONE: RONNIE COLEMAN, 2001
Simply the best physique I’ve ever seen onstage. At 245 pounds King Ron was full and shredded from head-to-toe: his cuts being deeper than Bill Gates’ pockets. His delts, arms and chest were spectacular, his back really beyond description. Ten seconds after he first walked out the contest was over."

I have no doubt that the majority feel Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all time................howe ver that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Dorian's ability to beat him 

Peter McGough – Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you. 

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

and I ind it very interesting that ' The greatest bodybuilder of all-time ' doesn't think he would be able to beat Dorian head to head and he's not even referring to Dorian seven weeks out from the 1993 Mr Olympia , oh no he's referring to a post-tear Dorian ! it shows you the amount of respect and admiration Coleman has for Dorian . he balked at even entertaining the idea that Cutler would/could ever beat him , said and I quote " Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics. "  now contrast to what he said about Dorian Yates

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


definitive , honest and straightforward , would you have smoked him? NO thats clear cut and dry a sentiment that rings true from a previous quote

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.



Question what would happen if Yates competed again , Dorian would have won again , you think so? I know so.  again clear cut definitive and straight to the point . and this isn't a prime pre-tear Dorian at 269 pounds we're talking about this is a post-tear Yates .

points to ponder anyone who thinks any version of Ronnie be it the very light & super sharp 2001 Arnold Classic or the superheavy and less than stella condition wise version would easily beat Dorian at 269 pounds ( even Yates 93/95 ) is insanely ignorant and grossly optimistic and/or biased and stupid a trait which many of Coleman's fans on here have already proven as a fact .

Ronnie may have had a walk in the park with guys Yates routinely beat in better condition , but Ronnie never faced anyone like a 269 pound Dorian Yates with ( depending on the year ) great muscular bulk , much better balance & proportion , has the advantage of better muscle density & dryness and also has the advantage in posing & presentation all prerequisites per the IFBB judging criteria .

[NarcissisticDeity]

thanks for proving my point.

ronnie lost the prejuding on paper only due to crappy judging.

you are not helping CigaretteMan by posting stuff like this you know. you are only verify exactly what I am saying.

thanks!

he didn't lose in real life: only on paper:

lmfao crappy judging  excuses , excuses

FYI Ronnie knew the judging was spot-on hence why he signaled he thought he was second 

[NeoSeminole]

I have no doubt that the majority feel Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all time................howe ver that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Dorian's ability to beat him

oh, it has EVERYTHING to do with Ronnie defeating Dorian if they competed at their primes. The quotes I posted are from people more qualified than you to speak on the subject and who actually saw both men compete live.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

nowhere does Peter say Dorian would beat Ronnie. Nice try.

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

again, nowhere does he state that Dorian would beat Ronnie.

and I ind it very interesting that ' The greatest bodybuilder of all-time ' doesn't think he would be able to beat Dorian head to head and he's not even referring to Dorian seven weeks out from the 1993 Mr Olympia , oh no he's referring to a post-tear Dorian ! it shows you the amount of respect and admiration Coleman has for Dorian . he balked at even entertaining the idea that Cutler would/could ever beat him , said and I quote " Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be reborn with better genetics. "  now contrast to what he said about Dorian Yates

this has already been disproved.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

[pumpster]

I have no doubt that the majority feel Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all time................howe ver that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Dorian's ability to beat him 

Epic rationalization after being painted into another corner lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh, it has EVERYTHING to do with Ronnie defeating Dorian if they competed at their primes. The quotes I posted are from people more qualified than you to speak on the subject and who actually saw both men compete live.

nowhere does Peter say Dorian would beat Ronnie. Nice try.

again, nowhere does he state that Dorian would beat Ronnie.

this has already been disproved.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

oh, it has EVERYTHING to do with Ronnie defeating Dorian if they competed at their primes. The quotes I posted are from people more qualified than you to speak on the subject and who actually saw both men compete live.

It has NOTHING to do with Dorian what so ever period , end of sentence . and speaking of more qualified how about the man in question , the man who is considered by many the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived? Ronnie Coleman lol what his thoughts on this subject? ....................yeah I thought so 

nowhere does Peter say Dorian would beat Ronnie. Nice try.

he's not sure Ronnie could beat Dorian thats all that matters and this is what most people considered his best showing ever and again he's stating the obvious , Dorian's conditioning is leaps & bounds better than Colemans , and if Ronnie competed lets say at 287 pounds like he did at the 2003 Olympia he would look soft lol 

again, nowhere does he state that Dorian would beat Ronnie.

It doesn't matter if he states that Dorian would beat him it states the obvious many very knowledgeable professional experts agree Dorian at the least would give Ronnie a run for his money , unlike you fan-boys who claim Ronnie is so far advanced he would easily beat Dorian lol proves your ignorance once again

this has already been disproved.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

Disproved my ass , NO WHERE ( mr likes to play with words ) I repeat NO WHERE does Ronnie Coleman say he would beat Dorian , nice try but you fell flat on your face with this junk before and it still doesn't work . 

Dorian on TWO occasions gave a concise direct answer to this question and TWICE he conceded to Dorian's  superiority I know that pains you but you can't change facts kid  and FYI he's much more qualified to speak on this topic than some ' certified personal trainer ' lol


next.................... ..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Epic rationalization after being painted into another corner lol

painted into a corner? Coleman concedes to Dorian not once but twice lol you people are behind the 8 ball not me 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.

Ronnie:  I know so.

Ronnie doesn't think for a moment Dorian would beat him..................... he knows so lol


this my internet-fany-boys is what they call check mate. 

[NeoSeminole]

It has NOTHING to do with Dorian what so ever period , end of sentence

repeating yourself doesn't change a damn thing. You've stated many times bodybuilders look different in person than in videos and pics. If anyone is qualified to speak on the subject of Ronnie vs. Dorian, it would be professional bodybuilders and magazine writers who saw both men on stage up-close. Funny how they all agree that Ronnie at his prime would beat Dorian. Maybe they saw something you haven't b/c they were actually there.

he's not sure Ronnie could beat Dorian thats all that matters and this is what most people considered his best showing ever and again he's stating the obvious , Dorian's conditioning is leaps & bounds better than Colemans , and if Ronnie competed lets say at 287 pounds like he did at the 2003 Olympia he would look soft lol

show me where Peter McGough says that Dorian would beat Ronnie. I have a quote from him explicitly saying Ronnie at his best is unbeatable.

It doesn't matter if he states that Dorian would beat him it states the obvious many very knowledgeable professional experts agree Dorian at the least would give Ronnie a run for his money , unlike you fan-boys who claim Ronnie is so far advanced he would easily beat Dorian lol proves your ignorance once again

I don't think Ronnie would destroy a prime Dorian. So don't lump me with all the other Ronnie fans. We each have our differences of opinion. It would be close, no doubt, but I still believe 03 Ronnie would beat any other bodybuilder in history.

Disproved my ass , NO WHERE ( mr likes to play with words ) I repeat NO WHERE does Ronnie Coleman say he would beat Dorian , nice try but you fell flat on your face with this junk before and it still doesn't work.

read it and weep, kiddo.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

now let's hear what Dorian has to say.

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

talk about a checkmate. Countdown to excuses... 3... 2... 1...

[NarcissisticDeity]

repeating yourself doesn't change a damn thing. You've stated many times bodybuilders look different in person than in videos and pics. If anyone is qualified to speak on the subject of Ronnie vs. Dorian, it would be professional bodybuilders and magazine writers who saw both men on stage up-close. Funny how they all agree that Ronnie at his prime would beat Dorian. Maybe they saw something you haven't b/c they were actually there.

show me where Peter McGough says that Dorian would beat Ronnie. I have a quote from him explicitly saying Ronnie at his best is unbeatable.

now let's hear what Dorian has to say.

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

I don't think Ronnie would destroy a prime Dorian. So don't lump me with all the other Ronnie fans. We each have our differences of opinion. It would be close, no doubt, but I still believe 03 Ronnie would beat any other bodybuilder in history.

read it and weep, kiddo.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

repeating yourself doesn't change a damn thing. You've stated many times bodybuilders look different in person than in videos and pics. If anyone is qualified to speak on the subject of Ronnie vs. Dorian, it would be professional bodybuilders and magazine writers who saw both men on stage up-close. Funny how they all agree that Ronnie at his prime would beat Dorian. Maybe they saw something you haven't b/c they were actually there.

The irony of you clinging to personal eyewitness testimony when in fact you've on COUNTLESS occasions dismissed them all  oh now Neo needs it to work for him , Dorian Yates who seen Ronnie compete countless time ( and beat him numerous  ) has said he has better conditioning than Ronnie and you dismissed that and he would know after all he's a IFBB judge lol anyway Lee Priest said Dorian would beat Ronnie , Ronnie said Dorian would beat him , Ernie taylor , etc , etc , etc and all were there nice try at playing my game Neo but again what matters the most is Ronnie himself said on more than one occasion he wouldn't beat Dorian and you once again dismissed him as ' dumb ' you ever hear the man speak was your retort lol as usual little man you have nothing for me

show me where Peter McGough says that Dorian would beat Ronnie. I have a quote from him explicitly saying Ronnie at his best is unbeatable.

I also have quotes saying Dorian is dryer , harder , has better balance & proportion and depending on the year carries more muscular bulk , oh lets couple that with him being a better poser that right there is ALL of the IFBB judging criteria and exactly why he would crush Ronnie  and show me where he says explicitly where Ronnie 2001 would beat Dorian at 269 pounds  ........................ .next

now let's hear what Dorian has to say.

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

you omitted a the other part for a very good reason  " I guess I DON'T KNOW " nice try Neo but you've been exposed ....run along and play with words little man .

I don't think Ronnie would destroy a prime Dorian. So don't lump me with all the other Ronnie fans. We each have our differences of opinion. It would be close, no doubt, but I still believe 03 Ronnie would beat any other bodybuilder in history.

You're all the same kool-aid drinkers of Coleman , you're all delusional and ignorant so I will lump all you idiots together but you do get credit for admitting it would be close , and 2003 isn't in the running compared to those who were actually there you know live and in person but hey you're entitled to your ignorant opinion.

read it and weep, kiddo.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

read what? he doesn't state anything ' explicitly ' don't break your arm patting yourself on the back , you accomplished NOTHING as usual , let me show you how its done. 


Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.

would you have smoked him? NO 

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.

you think so? Ronnie : I KNOW SO

and Ronnie is after all the greatest bodybuilder of all time a man with the most professional wins as well , he would know seeing he seen them both compete at their primes live and in person so he's more qualified to speak on this subject than you


damn thats gotta hurt Neo lol I own you 

[pumpster]

and its hard to knock the champion off the block. 

Coleman was referring to contest politics here, went right over nerd-boy's pencil neck. Excellent self-ownage with that quote lol

BTW i don't see any proof whatsoever that ND has himself ever lifted more than a pen in his life.


Hope this helps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Coleman was referring to contest politics here, went right over nerd-boy's pencil neck. Excellent self-ownage with that quote lol

BTW i don't see any proof whatsoever that ND has himself ever lifted more than a pen in his life.


Hope this helps.

No he wasn't and don't presume to speak for him , self-ownage is anything you type.

This my very stupid little friend is Ronnie referring to ( what he thinks is ) contest politics....

THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system

pumpster = owned ...............next

[NarcissisticDeity]

Coleman was referring to contest politics here, went right over nerd-boy's pencil neck. Excellent self-ownage with that quote lol

BTW i don't see any proof whatsoever that ND has himself ever lifted more than a pen in his life.


Hope this helps.

oh and BTW I life real weights no power rods LMFAO

[NeoSeminole]

The irony of you clinging to personal eyewitness testimony when in fact you've on COUNTLESS occasions dismissed them all. Dorian Yates who seen Ronnie compete countless time ( and beat him numerous) has said he has better conditioning than Ronnie and you dismissed that and he would know after all he's a IFBB judge lol

tsk tsk, show me where I dismissed Dorian. I said he had better conditioning than most versions of Ronnie except 98 and 01 ASC. Lying only makes you look pathetic.

anyway Lee Priest said Dorian would beat Ronnie , Ronnie said Dorian would beat him , Ernie taylor , etc , etc , etc and all were there nice try at playing my game Neo but again what matters the most is Ronnie himself said on more than one occasion he wouldn't beat Dorian and you once again dismissed him as ' dumb ' you ever hear the man speak was your retort lol as usual little man you have nothing for me

oh, how easy you make this for me. Here's a list of people who said Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

- Lonnie Teper
- Peter McGough
- Shawn Perine
- Greg Merritt
- Jim Stoppani
- Steve Blechman
- Flex Wheeler
- Paul Dillet
- Shawn Ray
- Jean Pierre Fux
- Mike Matarazzo
- Dexter Jackson
- Branch Warren
- Dorian Yates
- Ronnie Coleman

I also have quotes saying Dorian is dryer , harder , has better balance & proportion and depending on the year carries more muscular bulk , oh lets couple that with him being a better poser that right there is ALL of the IFBB judging criteria and exactly why he would crush Ronnie and show me where he says explicitly where Ronnie 2001 would beat Dorian at 269 pounds ..........next

good for you. Too bad nobody else agrees with your assessment.

you omitted a the other part for a very good reason " I guess I DON'T KNOW " nice try Neo but you've been exposed ....run along and play with words little man.

that still doesn't take away the fact that Dorian said the judges would most likely choose Ronnie over him. He should know better than you. After all, he's an IFBB judge.

read what? he doesn't state anything ' explicitly ' don't break your arm patting yourself on the back , you accomplished NOTHING as usual , let me show you how its done.

keep reading until it sinks in.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

[NarcissisticDeity]

tsk tsk, show me where I dismissed Dorian. I said he had better conditioning than most versions of Ronnie except 98 and 01 ASC. Lying only makes you look pathetic.

oh, how easy you make this for me. Here's a list of people who said Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

- Lonnie Teper
- Peter McGough
- Shawn Perine
- Greg Merritt
- Jim Stoppani
- Steve Blechman
- Flex Wheeler
- Paul Dillet
- Shawn Ray
- Jean Pierre Fux
- Mike Matarazzo
- Dexter Jackson
- Branch Warren
- Dorian Yates
- Ronnie Coleman

good for you. Too bad nobody else agrees with your assessment.

that still doesn't take away the fact that Dorian said the judges would most likely choose Ronnie over him. He should know better than you. After all, he's an IFBB judge.

keep reading until it sinks in.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

tsk tsk, show me where I dismissed Dorian. I said he had better conditioning than most versions of Ronnie except 98 and 01 ASC. Lying only makes you look pathetic.

lying  again you've claimed on MANY occasions Dorian's conditioning wasn't as good as Ronnies it doesn't matter what year you still made a claim based on ignorance and crushed by facts and eyewitnesses you have said Peter McGough a man who as seen both persons at their bests as flat out wrong on this assessment and you right despite you never once seeing either live and in person , so now you're trapped in your own logic 

oh, how easy you make this for me. Here's a list of people who said Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

- Lonnie Teper
- Peter McGough
- Shawn Perine
- Greg Merritt
- Jim Stoppani
- Steve Blechman
- Flex Wheeler
- Paul Dillet
- Shawn Ray
- Jean Pierre Fux
- Mike Matarazzo
- Dexter Jackson
- Branch Warren
- Dorian Yates
- Ronnie Coleman

One please show me where Dorian said Ronnie was the greatest bodybuilder of all time ! and two there is ONLY one name on that list that carries weight and thats the name of the man in question and we all know what he thinks of this situation  and it doesn't matter if he is the greatest of all time , they're basing that on one or two factors , number of Olympia titles won and number of pro contests won and according to that criteria alone its true he is the greatest bodybuilder of all time and that has NOTHING to do with if Dorian Yates at his best competed against him at his who would win.

good for you. Too bad nobody else agrees with your assessment.

Wrong the people who made the statements agree with my assessment and like you said their opinions all trump yours and why? because they were there , blah , blah , blah   

that still doesn't take away the fact that Dorian said the judges would most likely choose Ronnie over him. He should know better than you. After all, he's an IFBB judge. Wink

it doesn't matter you took something out of context and tried to make it something it wasn't? lol you're in essence lying and then project your deception of me and have the balls to say I'm lying , you think if you play with words enough your bullshit would be exposed ...sorry kid you're running with the big dogs now

bottom line he said I don't know ! thats not explicit , definitive or sure you also omitted how many times he said it was a very hard question for him to answer once again in a feeble attempt to TRY and give a clear answer to a question where he said explicitly I DON'T KNOW 

keep reading until it sinks in.

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

lets play Neo's game , shall we? look what Ronnie says I couldn't have beat them there you have it 

Neo that quote wont sink in because its means NOTHING its not committed , definitive or concise he never said explicitly he would beat them , I know this pisses you off but its in black & white just like he said he couldn't have beat them in their day , Dorian's day was 1993-1997 there you have it he says he couldn't beat Dorian for a third time lol how much more damning can this get?

Ronnie said now three times he couldn't beat Dorian and he would know because he's the greatest bodybuilder of all time , seen both at their bests & worse live and in person and his word carries much more weight than yours lol

you're fucked either way kid . 

[Matt C]

I really liked Dorian's physique before he had the injuries, but his waist always through threw (fixed) it off for me.  I think a big waist is more detrimental than a big gut.  Dorian in 1993 with a small waist would give Ronnie in 2003 a run for his money I bet.

[wes]

I really liked Dorian's physique before he had the injuries, but his waist always through threw it off for me.  I think a big waist is more detrimental than a big gut.  Dorian in 1993 with a small waist would give Ronnie in 2003 a run for his money I bet.

Spelling police! j/k

[NarcissisticDeity]

Spelling police! j/k

man MattC is taking a beating lately lol but hey he likes to get down on the little people for grammatical errors these things will come back to bite you in the bum. lol