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omega 6... primrose
« on: May 27, 2008, 09:15:01 PM »
anybody have any idea the effects of primrose  on fat metabolism, bmr, and protien synthesis ???

i know Udo says that omega 6 does upgrade fat burning like omega 3 does... but to a lesser extent.

omega-3, esp fish oil, seem to be a kind of "negative calorie" supplement..since it boosts fat burning and bmr over what it contains as far as calories go..and also omega-3, esp fish oil, promotes muscle retention and protein synthesis

wondering what kind of "caloric" effect evening primrose has.. is it quote unquote negative calories perse..like fish oil seems to be.. or is it neutral calories... or is it actually "caloric",, as in too much will make you fat..      and does it spare muscle, other than it just containing "calories"..

thanks be to whomever contributes some thought and knowledge

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 08:57:44 AM »
bump  !   

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 09:06:09 AM »
bump  !   

...bumping it 12 hours later?

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 10:17:08 AM »
...bumping it 12 hours later?
si senor

do you got the info i desire ?

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 11:09:00 AM »
Evening Primrose Oil — EPO is a rich source of gamma linolenic acid. GLA is a non-essential fatty acid which modifies cellular lipid composition and eicosanoid biosynthesis. Potential benefits include anti-inflammatory effects and antiproliferative effects. (7)

7) Yang-Yi Fan and Chapman, R. Journal of Nutrition. Sept; 128(9): 1411-1414. 1998.


 what does this mean ?

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 02:21:35 PM »
Evening Primrose Oil — EPO is a rich source of gamma linolenic acid. GLA is a non-essential fatty acid which modifies cellular lipid composition and eicosanoid biosynthesis. Potential benefits include anti-inflammatory effects and antiproliferative effects. (7)

7) Yang-Yi Fan and Chapman, R. Journal of Nutrition. Sept; 128(9): 1411-1414. 1998.


 what does this mean ?

cells are composed on multiple lipids, when you subsitute or supplement fish oils(EPA,DHA) and things like GLA you displace arachidonic acid in the cell membrane and change the composition of the cell. EPA is involved in eicosanoid biosynthesis (creation within the organism) and modulates (promotes regular reactions) inflammation. I will do some research on its effects on basal metabolic rate as im not certain as to its effects and would like to know anyhow.

One negative thing about chainging lipid bilayers is immune signalling. High doses of fish oil suppress the immune system and promote a TH1 polarization in t lymphocytes which is characteristic of autoimmune conditions. So i would cap the upper limit of supplementation at 15 grams a day to be safe, and this is still high. Ill get back to you on the primrose and fat burning.

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 03:17:18 PM »
 thanks usmoke !

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 07:10:25 PM »
usmoke did you ever get an answer on this ?

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 07:20:36 PM »
usmoke did you ever get an answer on this ?
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: J Nutr. 2007 Jun;137(6):1430-5. Links
Gamma-linolenate reduces weight regain in formerly obese humans.Schirmer MA, Phinney SD.
Department of Nutrition, University of California, Davis, CA 95616, USA.

The purpose of this study was to determine whether gamma-linolenate (GLA) supplementation would suppress weight regain following major weight loss. Fifty formerly obese humans were randomized into a double-blind study and given either 890 mg/d of GLA (5 g/d borage oil) or 5 g/d olive oil (controls) for 1 y. Body weight and composition and adipose fatty acids of fasting subjects were assessed at 0, 3, 12, and 33 mo. After 12 subjects in each group had completed 1 y of supplementation, weight regain differed between the GLA (2.17 +/- 1.78 kg) and control (8.78 +/- 2.78 kg) groups (P < 0.03). The initial study was terminated, and all remaining subjects were assessed over a 6-wk period. Unblinding revealed weight regains of 1.8 +/- 1.6 kg in the GLA group and 7.6 +/- 2.1 kg in controls for the 13 and 17 subjects, respectively, who completed a minimum of 50 wk in the study. Weight regain did not differ in the remaining 10 GLA and 5 control subjects who completed <50 wk in the study. In a follow-up study, a subgroup from both the original GLA (GLA-GLA, n = 9) and the original control (Control-GLA, n = 14) populations either continued or crossed over to GLA supplementation for an additional 21 mo. Interim weight regains between 15 and 33 mo were 6.48 +/- 1.79 kg and 6.04 +/- 2.52 kg for the GLA-GLA and Control-GLA groups, respectively. Adipose triglyceride GLA levels increased 152% (P < 0.0001) in the GLA group at 12 mo, but did not increase further after 33 mo of GLA administration. In conclusion, GLA reduced weight regain in humans following major weight loss, suggesting a role for essential fatty acids in fuel partitioning in humans prone to obesity.

ON general health

Dietary effect of gamma-linolenic acid on the lipid profile of rat fed erucic acid rich oil.Dasgupta S, Bhattacharyya DK.
Berhampore Girls' College, Berhampore, Murshidabad, West Bengal, India.

This study evaluated the effects of dietary supplementation of gamma-Linolenic acid (18:3n-6, GLA) on the lipid profile of serum and other tissues of rats fed erucic acid (C22:1) rich oil like mustard oil. The rats were fed diet containing 20% mustard oil as erucic acid rich oil and 20% groundnut oil as dietary fat. These groups were kept as reference groups. Another group fed diet containing 20% fat to which evening primrose oil as a source of GLA was blended with mustard oil and groundnut oil at 5% level. The feeding experiment was done for 4 weeks. In another set mustard oil fed group was kept as control while the experimental group was fed evening primrose oil as a source of GLA blended with mustard oil at 2.5% level. The feeding experiment was carried out for 12 weeks. The other dietary components remained same for all the groups. After the scheduled feeding period, it was found that there was no significant change in weight gain, food intake and food efficiency ratio. It was found that dietary GLA resulted in significant decrease in serum triglyceride (TG) and very low density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and significant increase in high density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol in serum in the experimental group. In liver total cholesterol (TC) is significantly higher and in heart and liver TG is significantly lower in GLA fed group

but anyhow there is not much evidence for taking GLA for fat loss effects,  with a little bit of research supporting its use. i would use it and imo it would have a neutral to slightly beneficial effect on body composition, but a hugely beneficial impact on your health which would result in more gains. i say supplement with it as freely as you do fish oil to be honest, primrose would be my suggestion as borage may contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids which are hepatoxic(liver toxic)

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Re: omega 6... primrose
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 07:21:48 PM »
awesome !