California and same sex "marriage"

[BayGBM]

I think with 3 marriages to your name, you've abused the institution more than some gay couple. 

Ouch! LOL   

[Howard]

EXACTLY!

And I think this can also be the counter argument for christians against the idea posed by Disgusted/Howie. 


It's not that two people of the same sex are getting "married" that's the big problem, it's the projection and gross distortion of what a "family" is, or should be.  I'll admit the definition of a true father has been lost for some time but I think we're still hanging on a thread to what at least a "family" should somewhat resemble....

Yes, but what actual harm does it do to anyone else if a gay couple gets married?
Other than some vague, subjective stuff  about some moral value of "the family".
One would think that gay marriage is going to cause Ward Cleaver to go fruity and  leave June , Wally and the Beaver?!
It is pretty simple to me, if you are GAY, than you are GAY, if you are straight you are straight. You can't catch GAY like some cold virus.

[Brutal_1]

Yes, but what actual harm does it do to anyone else if a gay couple gets married?
Other than some vague, subjective stuff  about some moral value of "the family".
One would think that gay marriage is going to cause Ward Cleaver to go fruity and  leave June , Wally and the Beaver?!
It is pretty simple to me, if you are GAY, than you are GAY, if you are straight you are straight. You can't catch GAY like some cold virus.    are you referring to AIDS?

"ward, I think you were a little hard on the Beaver....so was eddie hascal, wally, and Mrs Cleaver" 

[Howard]

"ward, I think you were a little hard on the Beaver....so was eddie hascal, wally, and Mrs Cleaver" 

Ward is da man, and June is uptight with a firm booty

[CalvinH]

I think with 3 marriages to your name, you've abused the institution more than some gay couple. 

Ouch...well played sir.

[MCWAY]

But that's the American way =)

Seriously though, I couldn't agree with you more.  In regards to the Christians and their beliefs, if they were "true" Christians then they wouldn't care either way because it's not their place to judge others.  I'm not religious at all but I've read a lot of the Bible and a lot of Bhudism as well as other religious systems.  There are actually quite a few good things that Jesus said that are excellent ways to live your life, it's just said people forget all of that and get caught up in their holier than though contempt for anyone who disagrees with them.

Contempt works both ways, as you can tell by some of the comments made by those who think gay "marriage" should be legal.

The irony of it that some gay activists speak about being tolerant but are anything but that to those who don't share their views, hence the "bigot", "homophobe" labels.

I'd still like to know why those who support gay "marriage" don't simply do what their opponents do: Get petitions signed and get a constitutional amendment put on their states' ballot to clearly define marriage. There's nothing preventing them from beating the streets, starting drives, etc.

[gordiano]

I said before, I'll say it again......


Gays were lucky, as they had an excuse for not getting married. It's too bad they won't ban "straight" marriages......


Marriages today are a fucking joke. Hell, maybe they always have been. I love how the idiots talk about the "sanctity" of marriage. Is there such a thing?   

[Camel Jockey]

I said before, I'll say it again......


Gays were lucky, as they had an excuse for not getting married. It's too bad they won't ban "straight" marriages......


Marriages today are a fucking joke. Hell, maybe they always have been. I love how the idiots talk about the "sanctity" of marriage. Is there such a thing?   

haha so true.

Same idiots who are pro-life.  Gay marriage and abortion are non issues used to distract stupid americans.

[Tre]

I said before, I'll say it again......


Gays were lucky, as they had an excuse for not getting married. It's too bad they won't ban "straight" marriages......


Marriages today are a fucking joke. Hell, maybe they always have been. I love how the idiots talk about the "sanctity" of marriage. Is there such a thing?   

I couldn't agree more.  Would LOVE to have marriage banned so they couldn't hold that shit over my head anymore.

[gordiano]

Seriously. While there are exceptions, marriages just don't work. The whole "expect to live your whole life with one person" is an outdated, silly concept.

[The Coach]

haha so true.

Same idiots who are pro-life.  Gay marriage and abortion are non issues used to distract stupid americans.

Since when was killing a baby from the mothers womb and an asshole being an entrance a natural occurance?

[candidizzle]

Since when was killing a baby from the mothers womb and an asshole being an entrance a natural occurance?

youi dont think some caveman dude who didnt want to do extra hunting didnt punch a bitch in the stomach ??

and i can guarantee dudes been plowing ass since the dawn of time

[The Coach]

youi dont think some caveman dude who didnt want to do extra hunting didnt punch a bitch in the stomach ??

and i can guarantee dudes been plowing ass since the dawn of time

Possibly........but it was never intended.

[Camel Jockey]

Possibly........but it was never intended.

You aren't the one who makes that decision.

Dudes putting from the ruff and getting married doesn't infringe upon your civil liberties, so why shouldn't they?

Go back to complaining about Rachel Ray's scarf, Joe. 

[candidizzle]

Possibly........but it was never intended.

never INTENDED ? 

what do you mean "intended" ?

[The Coach]

never INTENDED ? 

what do you mean "intended" ?

A mans asshole is an exit not an entrance.............get it now??

[Van_Bilderass]

A mans asshole is an exit not an entrance.............get it now??

What about a womans asshole? Is anal sex a sin in your opinion? Serious question.

[The Coach]

You aren't the one who makes that decision.

Dudes putting from the ruff and getting married doesn't infringe upon your civil liberties, so why shouldn't they?Go back to complaining about Rachel Ray's scarf, Joe. 

Maybe not, but it does have a direct effect on how children might preceive society by thinking it's normal when it's not.

[Tre]

Seriously. While there are exceptions, marriages just don't work. The whole "expect to live your whole life with one person" is an outdated, silly concept.

And if you're Mormon, they want you to live *eternity* with that person.  

I told my wife she'll be lucky to make the end of this decade with me.  Eternity is completely out of the question!

[Tre]

A mans asshole is an exit not an entrance.............get it now??

You MUST get that prostate examined.

Hold on...are you saying that the annual prostate exam was created by gay activists and that it's not really necessary??

[The Coach]

What about a womans asshole? Is anal sex a sin in your opinion? Serious question.

Is it sin? dunno have to look that one up, but it's not how God intended us to procreate.

[The Coach]

You MUST get that prostate examined.

Hold on...are you saying that the annual prostate exam was created by gay activists and that it's not really necessary??

Don't think the Doctor is going to check my prostate with his penis to see if I'm good health.........do you?

[polychronopolous]

Boy you have really put alot of thought into this haven't you "coach"?

[Camel Jockey]

Maybe not, but it does have a direct effect on how children might preceive society by thinking it's normal when it's not.

Perception of right and wrong starts at home, Joe. It shouldn't fall on the public and government to teach personal beliefs.

Also, a child's perception isn't important. We aren't going to see a sudden spike in homosexuals due to gay marriage, but we will see more people who'd have otherwise been in the closet. Most people do not suddenly choose that lifestyle, rather it's innate.

[CQ]

Marriages today are a fucking joke. Hell, maybe they always have been. I love how the idiots talk about the "sanctity" of marriage. Is there such a thing?   

Exactly. In most cultures, the divorce rate is sky high, as is adultery - there is hardly any "sanctity of marriage" but people run around screaming it all the time.

Don't think the Doctor is going to check my prostate with his penis to see if I'm good health.........do you?

Joe, please go easy on posting your fantasies on the G&O. Take that to the sex board