GHB and Fat Loss...When obtained legally

[Mussolini]

I would like to comment that I GHB Legally and took it three times a day for 3 weeks leading up to my fight to help make weight, as I have to quit drinking beer about a month out.GHB is by far the best product I have ever used in terms of fat loss, better than ECA, and Clen, IMO. When GHB is taken before sleep, 5 hours of sleep is all one needs as it is all Rem sleep. You wake up totally refreshed and ready to train.I am not advocating obtaining GHB illegally or using it recreationlly, but if you can get it without breaking the law it is a good product and can help with fat loss and recovery.

[4thAD]

how were you able to obtain it legally?

[Mussolini]

how were you able to obtain it legally?

Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.


I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.

[jtsunami]

Doesnt' it knock you out and make you want to sleep or dose off?  How much was it from the pharmacy warehouse?  I know they send it out through a central pharmacy,

jt

[candidizzle]

through what mechanisms does it cause fat loss

[Mussolini]

through what mechanisms does it cause fat loss

I think the extra GH released from the extra Rem Sleep causes it, but im not sure. The anabolic effect of the extra gh released is somewhat negated by the release of of extra prolactin, however I think the fat buring effects of the gh are still just as strong.  Ghb also revs your metabolism.

When sleeping on GHB when your out, usually for 4-5 hours, its 4-5 of total Rem sleep. when People sleep 7-8 hours normally only 1.5-2 hours is rem sleep.

[Mussolini]

Doesnt' it knock you out and make you want to sleep or dose off?  How much was it from the pharmacy warehouse?  I know they send it out through a central pharmacy,

jt

I find GHB compliment very well whatever I want to do, be it sleep or train, or work.

It cost me the equivelent to about $200 American for the three weeks. I still have about 7-8 days worth left that im saving for my next fight.

[Van_Bilderass]

Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.


I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.

That dosing pattern certainly isn't what the prescribing info says to employ. It's supposed to be taken twice per night (second dose when you wake up approx. 4 hours after the first dose). Were you fighting alcohol withdrawal with it? That's recreational use IMO.

[no one]

I would like to comment that I GHB Legally and took it three times a day for 3 weeks leading up to my fight to help make weight, as I have to quit drinking beer about a month out.GHB is by far the best product I have ever used in terms of fat loss, better than ECA, and Clen, IMO. When GHB is taken before sleep, 5 hours of sleep is all one needs as it is all Rem sleep. You wake up totally refreshed and ready to train.I am not advocating obtaining GHB illegally or using it recreationlly, but if you can get it without breaking the law it is a good product and can help with fat loss and recovery.

wouldn't purchasing GHB illegally also make it more cost effective? i mean, lets be honest it isn't like anabolic substances are exactly legal.


thats being said, i too like GHB when i'm using fina as i suffer from insominia something fierce from that compound. but the whole idea of paying that much for it legally doesn't really trun my crank.

are there places online you can by it without a script?

[Mega Man]

Does GHB help you get laid???

 

Use by bodybuilders
Some athletes and bodybuilders also use GHB, as GHB has been shown to elevate human growth hormone in vivo.[29] The growth hormone elevating effects of GHB are mediated through muscarinic acetylcholine receptors and can be prevented by prior administration of pirenzepine, a muscarinic acetylcholine receptor blocking agent.[30]

As certain succinate salts have been shown to elevate growth hormone in vitro[31], being GHB is metabolized into succinate some people have suggested this may play a role in the growth hormone elevations from GHB. There is however currently no evidence to show that succinate plays any role in the growth hormone elevations from GHB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid#Use_by_bodybuilders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid#Use_by_bodybuilders

[Mussolini]

That dosing pattern certainly isn't what the prescribing info says to employ. It's supposed to be taken twice per night (second dose when you wake up approx. 4 hours after the first dose). Were you fighting alcohol withdrawal with it? That's recreational use IMO.

nope wasnt fighting alchohol withdrawal, and that dosing pattern is exactly how its perscribed in Europe, for anxiety, depression, ect.

The world standard isnt necessarily based on what American Dr think is safe or not.

[Mussolini]

wouldn't purchasing GHB illegally also make it more cost effective? i mean, lets be honest it isn't like anabolic substances are exactly legal.


thats being said, i too like GHB when i'm using fina as i suffer from insominia something fierce from that compound. but the whole idea of paying that much for it legally doesn't really trun my crank.

are there places online you can by it without a script?

I guess that depends on where you get it. Around here its expensive to obtain illegally, around 250$ for a 250 ml bottle.

as for online pharmacy where you can get it, im not sure.

[no one]

I guess that depends on where you get it. Around here its expensive to obtain illegally, around 250$ for a 250 ml bottle.

as for online pharmacy where you can get it, im not sure.

and the $200 you spent american gave you how many ml's?

i may just go to my doctor and get a script if it is equal to in cost...

[michael arvilla]

Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.


I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.

send me a case
mikenlaura@comcast.net

[Van_Bilderass]

nope wasnt fighting alchohol withdrawal, and that dosing pattern is exactly how its perscribed in Europe, for anxiety, depression, ect.

The world standard isnt necessarily based on what American Dr think is safe or not.

Which European countries prescribe it that way? I doubt any EU countries.

It's very addictive when taken all day long, which I'm sure you know though.

[Mussolini]

Which European countries prescribe it that way? I doubt any EU countries.

It's very addictive when taken all day long, which I'm sure you know though.

Italy and France for sure bro,

http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html


And Im sure it can be addictive if taken for too long. usually you only are recommended to take it that often for 3-4 weeks.

I can attest that I certainly didnt become addicted or have withdrawals and I took it 3 times a day for 3 weeks.

Also

[Mussolini]

and the $200 you spent american gave you how many ml's?i may just go to my doctor and get a script if it is equal to in cost...

250 ml, and thats pharmacutical grade. On the street Im sure it would be hard to match the quality.

[Mussolini]

send me a case
mikenlaura@comcast.net

the next case I get we'll go splits Mike

[Van_Bilderass]

Italy and France for sure bro,

http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html

Just because it has been studied in these settings doesn't mean it's available as an anti-depressant in these countries. I'll look for the status later but I bet it isn't available for these indications. Maybe prescribed experimentally for off-label purposes in very limited fashion. I'm positive you couldn't find it indicated for depression in those countries'  PDR's. MDMA has been studied as treatment for PTSD and a bunch of other psych disorders (IIRC in Spain), LSD the same, but good luck in getting a script for it.

[Mussolini]

Just because it has been studied in these settings doesn't mean it's available as an anti-depressant in these countries. I'll look for the status later but I bet it isn't available for these indications. Maybe prescribed experimentally for off-label purposes in very limited fashion. I'm positive you couldn't find it indicated for depression in those countries'  PDR's. MDMA has been studied as treatment for PTSD and a bunch of other psych disorders (IIRC in Spain), LSD the same, but good luck in getting a script for it.

Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.

And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.

[jtsunami]

Um mike you do know that it is highly illegal drug just like cocain or anything else in the same catecory to buy from someone if you don't have a script and the same for musinlnii to sell you his perscribed medicaiton.

[Mussolini]

Um mike you do know that it is highly illegal drug just like cocain or anything else in the same catecory to buy from someone if you don't have a script and the same for musinlnii to sell you his perscribed medicaiton.

again, only in the USA.

for you Americans. Try Phenibut. almost the exact same and lasts longer t and is 100% legal in your country, prolly not for long though so hurry.

Takes longer to set in though.

[Van_Bilderass]

Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.

And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.

double post

[Van_Bilderass]

Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.

And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.

What was it indicated for in your case? What did the doctor write on the Rx?

I don't know the exact legal status but the EU tends to be pretty similar across most countries. I did find some info that in Italy it's a controlled substance.

Juice is very very illegal in most of EU. UK is the most lax from what I know. Personal use isn't illegal but selling is. Kind of like Canada. In Sweden cops can pull a guy off the street if their traps are too big and make them do a drug test. Some think that surely it's legal in Holland since weed is legal. Nope, just like the US. Greece - illegal, Italy - illegal (or otherwise we'd see a lot of Italian made steroids on the black market). Germany - very illegal.

[jtsunami]

Mikes in the USA so it would be illegal.