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justin harris
« on: June 02, 2008, 10:07:40 PM »
why didnt yout tell my diabetic aunt that eating all that protein would cause her high blood sugar and ultimately lead to her untimely death this day.   she died after eating 600g protein and went hyerglycemic.  >:( >:(  you should have told her !!  >:( bastard

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 10:08:47 PM »
signature of a meltdown: you exit the thread containing the debate and start another one in order to shoot one last "zinger" at the guy that just made you look like a fool.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 10:10:51 PM »
post a picture candidate.  You must still be pretty lean, since you only upped your protein intake which cannot case fat gain.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 10:13:23 PM »
That wont cause hyperglycemia in a diabetic dick nose  ::)

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 10:14:25 PM »
That wont cause hyperglycemia in a diabetic dick nose  ::)
nuh huh everybodys been tellling me high protien = high blood sugar= high insulin levels = fat storage

and my aunt died from too much protein today !

must be true


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Re: justin harris
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 10:25:38 PM »
nuh huh everybodys been tellling me high protien = high blood sugar= high insulin levels = fat storage

and my aunt died from too much protein today !

must be true


Well they are full of shit ,Il retract the dicknose comment  ;D

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 10:27:46 PM »
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Re: justin harris
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 10:29:14 PM »
Well they are full of shit ,Il retract the dicknose comment  ;D
  trenbolone king justin harris even tried to join in  ...  ;D

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 10:31:53 PM »
why didnt yout tell my diabetic aunt that eating all that protein would cause her high blood sugar and ultimately lead to her untimely death this day.   she died after eating 600g protein and went hyerglycemic.  >:( >:(  you should have told her !!  >:( bastard

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Her high protein diet didn't lead to death from hyperglycemia.  
The glucose that was converted from excess protein was converted to fatty acids after the subsequent rise in the enzyme acetyl-Coenzyme A Carboxylase formed malonyl-Coenzyme A that is necessary for fatty acid synthesis.  
We already went over this.  

You do understand the blood sugar rise from gluconeogenesis is more likely to cause a hypoglycemic episode than a hyperglycemic episode, right?

The blood sugar will won't rise to any appreciable level.  If glucose is synthesized from protein, it is because there is a need for that energy source.  The sugar is either quickly utilized for glycolysis or is converted to fatty acids through the process listed above (shown for a second time here).

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 10:36:21 PM »
 If glucose is synthesized from protein, it is because there is a need for that energy source.


justin this is what i am telling you mister trenbolone


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Re: justin harris
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 10:46:32 PM »
justin this is what i am telling you mister trenbolone



Until there is more glucose available than is utilized over a particular via glycolysis, at which point the excess glucose is converted to fat and stored as fat for later use as an energy source.

There really is no ambiguity on this.  There's nothing magical in physiology.  A calorie is a measure of energy, specifically a measure of heat energy in relation to water. 
Should more calories be ingested than are burned over any particular time period, the body will store the excess energy for later use. 

There is a law in physics called the conservation of energy. 
When you ingest a calorie, the energy of that calorie (the energy required to raise 1g of water 1 degree celsius) must be maintained.  The energy can take other forms, but its absolute magnitude is constant. 
That calorie is either utilized in some form of energy release (in the exact same energy amount as was ingested) or is stored in the body as an energy source that can be used later. 

If you ingest 5,000 Calories from protein and the net caloric expenditure over that same time period is 4,000 Calories, 1,000 calories will be stored as defined by the law of conservation of energy.  This 1,000 calories can be stored as protein, glycogen, or fat depending on the needs of the body at that time. 


Unless you re-write the laws of physics, this is an unarguable point. 


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Re: justin harris
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 10:51:51 PM »
Until there is more glucose available than is utilized over a particular via glycolysis, at which point the excess glucose is converted to fat and stored as fat for later use as an energy source.

There really is no ambiguity on this.  There's nothing magical in physiology.  A calorie is a measure of energy, specifically a measure of heat energy in relation to water. 
Should more calories be ingested than are burned over any particular time period, the body will store the excess energy for later use. 

There is a law in physics called the conservation of energy. 
When you ingest a calorie, the energy of that calorie (the energy required to raise 1g of water 1 degree celsius) must be maintained.  The energy can take other forms, but its absolute magnitude is constant. 
That calorie is either utilized in some form of energy release (in the exact same energy amount as was ingested) or is stored in the body as an energy source that can be used later. 

If you ingest 5,000 Calories from protein and the net caloric expenditure over that same time period is 4,000 Calories, 1,000 calories will be stored as defined by the law of conservation of energy.  This 1,000 calories can be stored as protein, glycogen, or fat depending on the needs of the body at that time. 


Unless you re-write the laws of physics, this is an unarguable point. 



calories in can mean calories out  :)

protein weighed into bmr? how do you account for utilization protein "calories" ..? thats not really energy expenditure, the process require energy, but your not uing energy from that protein your using it to build with

 basically justin this is what your saying, in regards to protein requirements, that if you gain 1 lb of muscle over a weeks time. well 1 lb of muscle = 453 grams protein and 453 divided by 7 =  64 grams protein daily

so to gorw a pound of muscle in a week all you need is roughly 60 grams protein per day ? thanks JH !

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 10:53:13 PM »
calories in can mean calories out  :)

protein weighed into bmr? how do you account for utilization protein "calories" ..? thats not really energy expenditure, the process require energy, but your not uing energy from that protein your using it to build with

 basically justin this is what your saying, in regards to protein requirements, that if you gain 1 lb of muscle over a weeks time. well 1 lb of muscle = 453 grams protein and 453 divided by 7 =  64 grams protein daily

so to gorw a pound of muscle in a week all you need is roughly 60 grams protein per day ? thanks JH !


You're doing blow aren't you 8)

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 10:55:05 PM »
You're doing blow aren't you 8)
if by "doing" you mean "getting high on" and by "blow" you mean "life" then YES !

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 10:58:46 PM »
 what happens when you drink whey protein and you get a huge surge in the concentration of amino acids in your blood?

huge increase in the rate of protein synthesis

    ;)


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Re: justin harris
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2008, 08:31:34 AM »
calories in can mean calories out  :)

protein weighed into bmr? how do you account for utilization protein "calories" ..? thats not really energy expenditure, the process require energy, but your not uing energy from that protein your using it to build with

 basically justin this is what your saying, in regards to protein requirements, that if you gain 1 lb of muscle over a weeks time. well 1 lb of muscle = 453 grams protein and 453 divided by 7 =  64 grams protein daily

so to gorw a pound of muscle in a week all you need is roughly 60 grams protein per day ? thanks JH !


Nice attempt, but your math is missing several variables, and you're waaay overmatched arguing with Trop.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2008, 08:35:09 AM »
signature of a meltdown: you exit the thread containing the debate and start another one in order to shoot one last "zinger" at the guy that just made you look like a fool.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2008, 08:46:50 AM »
Until there is more glucose available than is utilized over a particular via glycolysis, at which point the excess glucose is converted to fat and stored as fat for later use as an energy source.

There really is no ambiguity on this.  There's nothing magical in physiology.  A calorie is a measure of energy, specifically a measure of heat energy in relation to water. 
Should more calories be ingested than are burned over any particular time period, the body will store the excess energy for later use. 

There is a law in physics called the conservation of energy. 
When you ingest a calorie, the energy of that calorie (the energy required to raise 1g of water 1 degree celsius) must be maintained.  The energy can take other forms, but its absolute magnitude is constant. 
That calorie is either utilized in some form of energy release (in the exact same energy amount as was ingested) or is stored in the body as an energy source that can be used later. 

If you ingest 5,000 Calories from protein and the net caloric expenditure over that same time period is 4,000 Calories, 1,000 calories will be stored as defined by the law of conservation of energy.  This 1,000 calories can be stored as protein, glycogen, or fat depending on the needs of the body at that time. 


Unless you re-write the laws of physics, this is an unarguable point. 




You're wasting your time Jason explaining the physics behind how a person's body handles protein, carbs and fats when more than enough is needed at any one time. CANDYASS is no more than a 15 year old with limited mental capacity and will only have you running in circles trying to unravel his confusion and mis-belief on how the body REALLY works....Let him take a biology course or better yet let him put his "knowledge" to work on himself...If his logic (ha ha) works, then we should expect that he will be a world class BB inside of a year by adding about 100 pounds of muscle to his 120 pound frame in that time just by consuming MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WHEY PROTEIN....

Pictures CANDYASS???? Post some photos of your transformation using your "LOGIC" this way your words will have credibility.
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Re: justin harris
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 08:55:27 AM »
why didnt yout tell my diabetic aunt that eating all that protein would cause her high blood sugar and ultimately lead to her untimely death this day.   she died after eating 600g protein and went hyerglycemic.  >:( >:(  you should have told her !!  >:( bastard

 :D

You really are a dumbshit

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 09:04:20 AM »
i like how he calls troponin "mister tren" when he himself is an admitted juicer.

granted, troponin knows which steroids to use and how.

candizzle's just popping whatever he bought off a website and is not having any gains.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2008, 09:09:16 AM »
calories in can mean calories out  :)

protein weighed into bmr? how do you account for utilization protein "calories" ..? thats not really energy expenditure, the process require energy, but your not uing energy from that protein your using it to build with

 basically justin this is what your saying, in regards to protein requirements, that if you gain 1 lb of muscle over a weeks time. well 1 lb of muscle = 453 grams protein and 453 divided by 7 =  64 grams protein daily

so to gorw a pound of muscle in a week all you need is roughly 60 grams protein per day ? thanks JH !


You really need to take an introduction to biochem class. Everything Troponin is talking about has been studied, documented and proven. You might learn a thing or two instead of making yourself look like an idiot on here.

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2008, 09:45:46 AM »
You might learn a thing or two instead of making yourself look like an idiot on here.



Yeah but then what fun would that be for us?

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2008, 09:51:47 AM »
Until there is more glucose available than is utilized over a particular via glycolysis, at which point the excess glucose is converted to fat and stored as fat for later use as an energy source.

There really is no ambiguity on this.  There's nothing magical in physiology.  A calorie is a measure of energy, specifically a measure of heat energy in relation to water. 
Should more calories be ingested than are burned over any particular time period, the body will store the excess energy for later use. 

There is a law in physics called the conservation of energy. 
When you ingest a calorie, the energy of that calorie (the energy required to raise 1g of water 1 degree celsius) must be maintained.  The energy can take other forms, but its absolute magnitude is constant. 
That calorie is either utilized in some form of energy release (in the exact same energy amount as was ingested) or is stored in the body as an energy source that can be used later. 

If you ingest 5,000 Calories from protein and the net caloric expenditure over that same time period is 4,000 Calories, 1,000 calories will be stored as defined by the law of conservation of energy.  This 1,000 calories can be stored as protein, glycogen, or fat depending on the needs of the body at that time. 


Unless you re-write the laws of physics, this is an unarguable point. 





Justin, just wanted to say......

thanks for not using the word "moot"  ;)
just not good enough

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Re: justin harris
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2008, 09:52:52 AM »
justin is a great athlete and father.

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2008, 11:13:41 AM »
Until there is more glucose available than is utilized over a particular via glycolysis, at which point the excess glucose is converted to fat and stored as fat for later use as an energy source.

There really is no ambiguity on this.  There's nothing magical in physiology.  A calorie is a measure of energy, specifically a measure of heat energy in relation to water. 
Should more calories be ingested than are burned over any particular time period, the body will store the excess energy for later use. 

There is a law in physics called the conservation of energy. 
When you ingest a calorie, the energy of that calorie (the energy required to raise 1g of water 1 degree celsius) must be maintained.  The energy can take other forms, but its absolute magnitude is constant. 
That calorie is either utilized in some form of energy release (in the exact same energy amount as was ingested) or is stored in the body as an energy source that can be used later. 

If you ingest 5,000 Calories from protein and the net caloric expenditure over that same time period is 4,000 Calories, 1,000 calories will be stored as defined by the law of conservation of energy.  This 1,000 calories can be stored as protein, glycogen, or fat depending on the needs of the body at that time. 


Unless you re-write the laws of physics, this is an unarguable point. 





Although none of us care to challenge the laws of physics, I think many of us would choose to question your point. 

Of course the law of conservation of energy applies in all ordinary processes, such as the case of food metabolism.  Energy stored in food is neither created nor destroyed, but MAY change form.  To say it another way, the food-energy does not magically disappear into oblivion, nor will energy magically appear from nowhere.  To put it in even simpler terms--the FOOD and its associated energy HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE (which is obvious to us all).

Is every food calorie ingested which is not "burned for fuel" definitely stored as either protein, glycogen, or fat?  Has this been proven?  What if you ingest so much food that your body doesn't need it all for fuel, and also doesn't need to add to its protein, glycogen, or fat storage?  Can't some of the food simply not be used for anything (which does not violate conservation of energy--your food energy just didn't change form)? 

I've trained very thin guys who have desperately tried to gain weight.  They'll pack in as many super-high-density meals as possible to achieve ridiculously high caloric intakes, and still not gain weight--fat or muscle.  Not everybody gets big and/or fat from eating a lot.  Are they really expending that large a number of calories, burning them all up for fuel?  Are that large a number of extra calories really being stored somewhere somehow as something?  Maybe not?  When force-fed large quantities of food, can some of the food simply pass through a bit undigested, unused (it sure LOOKS that way!)?

The laws of physics are exact, and in the study of metabolism would apply exactly.  The law of conservation of energy applies exactly.  But when and under what circumstances the starting food-energy converts to other forms doesn't seem to be 100 percent predictable.  If we could handle food metabolism as an exact science, we could simply compare food intake to calorie expenditure and hope to make some fairly accurate predictions about what one should lose or gain--this is very hard to do.

Of course there's nothing magical in physiology.  None of us here believe in magic.  But sometimes things do seem ambiguous--not because they truly are ambiguous, but because it's proved so difficult to know the fine details of how one individual's body really handles the food that's put in it.