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Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« on: June 05, 2008, 10:23:23 PM »
He would be a fool to pick that woman.

Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP

Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:23 PM

Any chance that Barack Obama would choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate has been quashed by what some observers are calling the “deal-breaker” — Bill Clinton’s refusal to readily release documents from his White House years.

“To put Hillary on the ticket is to confront nagging questions about donors to the Clinton Library and Bill’s refusal to release them,” said political analyst Dick Morris.

“It would be to inherit a load of baggage that Obama does not need as he tries to position himself as the candidate of change, antithetical to the corrupt and corrupting ways of Washington.”

But that’s not the only strike against Hillary in her presumed quest to gain the vice presidential slot.

The Obama camp is angry over Hillary’s refusal to drop out of the race after it was all but certain that Obama would gain the nomination. While Hillary plans to concede on Saturday, she has still not withdrawn from the race or released her delegates.

Plenty of animosity remains between the Obama and Clinton camps following a long and sometimes acrimonious battle for the nomination.

Obama’s wife Michelle is said to be dead set against Hillary as the Democratic vice presidential candidate.

Citing opinion polls showing that half of U.S. voters have a negative view of Clinton, former President Jimmy Carter said selecting Hillary as Obama’s vice presidential running mate “would be the worst mistake that could be made.” Carter asserts that Obama and Clinton together on the same ticket “would just accumulate the negative aspects of both candidates.”

Publically, Obama has said he has no hard feelings toward Bill and Hillary Clinton and declared “there is nobody who is more talented or more gifted than Bill Clinton when it comes to understanding the broad crosscurrents of America.”

But putting Hillary on the ticket for vice president would create a “ménage-à-trois,” with Bill “the unexpected roommate,” Morris writes.

“Even if a President Obama can discipline Hillary and get her to play second fiddle, there is not the remotest chance that he can get the former president to accept such rules. Even if Bill Clinton wanted to rein in his newly prolific public expressions of rage and frustration, there is doubt that he is any longer capable of doing so.”
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Hillary_obama_vp/2008/06/05/101985.html

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 11:09:58 PM »
He is a stronger candidate WITH her, than without.

I've been saying it for 3 months, to anyone who will listen lol...

She got more votes than he did, and she wins with blue collar workers, hispanics, poor, and white women, groups where he struggles.

No offense BB, but you were voting for Bill clinton just a few years back.  You claimed to be a high school dropout who teaches college.  You're all sorts of fcked up when it comes to analyzing anything.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 11:52:27 PM »
He is a stronger candidate WITH her, than without.

I've been saying it for 3 months, to anyone who will listen lol...

She got more votes than he did, and she wins with blue collar workers, hispanics, poor, and white women, groups where he struggles.

No offense BB, but you were voting for Bill clinton just a few years back.  You claimed to be a high school dropout who teaches college.  You're all sorts of fcked up when it comes to analyzing anything.

Beach Bum=PhD...

Anyway....Bill Richardson...
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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 11:53:24 PM »
Beach Bum=PhD...


And how do you know this?

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 11:56:31 PM »
And how do you know this?

Beach Bum has claimed this....in case you didn't notice, it is sarcasm on my part....
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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 02:28:06 AM »
Beach Bum has claimed this....in case you didn't notice, it is sarcasm on my part....

Yeah i remember that.

As far as Richardson..I hope so.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 02:42:16 AM »
She got more votes than he did...

She did?

Then why isn't she the nominee?

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 03:20:47 AM »
They've been having private discussions recently according to the recent press releases.

Personally I don't think he's gonna pick her - she's too power hungry and comes across as quite aloof.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 05:37:06 AM »
She did?

Then why isn't she the nominee?

Delegates and superdelegates, plus the 7 caucus states are 'winner take all' where votes aren't counted, and 100% of them are awarded (Obama cleaned up in these cases).

I am totally NOT a hilary fan.  But I do think Obama needs her to win.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 05:48:42 AM »
Delegates and superdelegates, plus the 7 caucus states are 'winner take all' where votes aren't counted, and 100% of them are awarded (Obama cleaned up in these cases).

I am totally NOT a hilary fan.  But I do think Obama needs her to win.

You're too young to remember, but Rush Limbaugh's show helped to inform millions of us about Hillary back in the early-mid 90s. 

I've never had a reason to trust her and her political history since 1992 has been exactly what we said it would be back then - that she feels entitled to the White House. 

As I see it, she already had her 8 years. 

You also have to understand that many of the people who voted for Clinton just because she's white are the same people who will vote for John McCain in November. 

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 05:51:02 AM »
i understand race will play into it for some.

But I think there are MORE people who are disgusted with the way things are, and are going to vote dem when they never have.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 08:52:29 AM »
Many have questioned Obama's judgment.  Let's see what he does with his first major choice as nominee.  He can select a liberal woman that people hate, with zero military or executive experience, who will energize the opposition.  Or he can select a white male with a military background who can give him more credibility and pacify some of the race-based voters. 

Nominating Hillary would pretty much hand the election to McCain. 

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2008, 12:37:37 PM »
http://www.governor.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?
Edward G. Rendell, Governor Pennsylvania
Obama's running mate.

Obama needs the states he brings into play.
He is also a Clinton Loyalist. He claims he doesn't want the job, hahaha.

Clinton won't be the VP nominee, the ticket would be too weak.

http://www.flgov.com/
Charlie Crist will most likely be McCain's running mate.
Latino votes in a swing state. Will play big in states like California.
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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 12:39:18 PM »
http://www.governor.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?
Edward G. Rendell, Governor Pennsylvania
Obama's running mate.

Obama needs the states he brings into play.
He is also a Clinton Loyalist. He claims he doesn't want the job, hahaha.

Clinton won't be the VP nominee, the ticket would be too weak.

http://www.flgov.com/
Charlie Crist will most likely be McCain's running mate.
Latino votes in a swing state. Will play big in states like California.

rendell is kinda a gross pig.  Evan bui would be a sexier clinton surrogate.

Crist likes to practice in the brown arts.  no way mccain picks him.  besides, romney is rich, and repubs aren't donating.

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 08:12:06 PM »
http://www.governor.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?
Edward G. Rendell, Governor Pennsylvania
Obama's running mate.

Obama needs the states he brings into play.
He is also a Clinton Loyalist. He claims he doesn't want the job, hahaha.

Clinton won't be the VP nominee, the ticket would be too weak.

http://www.flgov.com/
Charlie Crist will most likely be McCain's running mate.
Latino votes in a swing state. Will play big in states like California.

Rendell would never work for a 'n*****'.  You can quote him on that.

Florida is going McCain anyway, just as California will go Obama regardless of who the VP selection is. 

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Re: Analysis: Hillary Can Never Be Obama’s VP
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 01:35:16 PM »
the white(caucasian and latin) will not vote for a bi-racial candidate.  old white man will win.