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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #325 on: June 07, 2008, 09:55:43 PM »
I look at my computer and see Dell, an American company. I look at my operating system and see Windows, also an American company. Of course, some people have a MAC which is made by Apple, but, that's an American company, too. Then I do a search on the #1 search engine in the world, Google, also an American company. I open up my computer and see the name of the biggest chip processor company in the world, Intel, also an American company, and, I see the name of the biggest high end graphic card maker in the world, NVIDIA, also an American company.

For a  country on the brink of collapse we seem to be pretty good with the technology thing.

In fact, of the 150 largest companies in the world approx 1/2 are American. Not bad for a country that only has 5% of the world's population.

Your statement is clearly more a matter of wishful thinking than a statement of fact.

Agreed.

It's hard to legitimize any argument that claims America is still not top dog on the block. The biggest argument outsiders or those inside have against America right now is the fact that the dollar is a tad bit weaker then it was a few years back...but come on, let's put it into perspective...is America really falling apart?

People clamor about our national debt, people gripe that economically we're not as powerfull as we used to be. Well is this true? I don't think so.

Which country still funds over 90% of the WOC (World Bank)? America.
Which country still spends more money then any other on goods and services? America
Which country still has one of the highest home owner rates in the world? America

As for our national debt, where does most of this lie? In the WOC and other similar institutions that we are the primary funders for...who's going to call us on that, ourselves? Doubt it.

Who still has the most powerfull military in the world? America. Some would argue against this simply because the way things have drawn out in Iraq. But seriously, think about it...anyone with half a brain knows that could be over in less then 24hrs if our military was given the green light to do so. The only reason it hasn't is because of bullshit protocol and bitching by the rest of the world. The rest of the world is still scared of our muscle, and rightfully so...and you can bet your ass anytime we flex that muscle, there is going to be crying in the streets.

A lot of people, a lot of countries hate America, and this hate is based primarily on jealousy. It's in the very nature of man to be jealous of his superior. I say who cares. Since when is what others think really all that important? Sure, some will argue that we as America need outside countries for support. Quite the contrary...we choose to let these outsiders have a taste of what we have in order to better our own lives here at home. If it came down to it, America could easily do without outside help...of course half the countries in the world would be decimated, since it is they who rely on us for financial and defense support.

Last little bit, every great country, every great empire in history has eventually fallen. True, America may one day be destined to the same fate...time will tell. But we are a far cry from this now. You may hear and read over seas that America is on the brink of oblivion, but what else would you expect? As corny as it might sound, but it is the truth, the American dream is still alive, still breathing, still kicking and holding strong. Any foreigner who doesn't believe that should come here for himself and see first hand.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #326 on: June 07, 2008, 09:57:13 PM »
Is Obama threatening to ban "men in thongs"? Otherwise, I fail to see what this has to do with bbing.... :-\
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #328 on: June 07, 2008, 11:03:41 PM »
Is Obama threatening to ban "men in thongs"? Otherwise, I fail to see what this has to do with bbing.... :-\
No, but he has stated on numerous occasions that the use of protein powder would be deemed illegal...classified as schedule 3. He also opposes the use of pro tan :P

As much as I dislike Senator Mohamed, even if he gets elected there will not be that big of a threat to us as Americans...it's the doorway it opens up that concerns me. Presidents do not posses as much power as the general public seems to believe. The power lies within the Congress and judiciary...the bulk of it anyway.

OK, I'll stop rambling...but before I do...did I mention that although the republican side may not have the best candidate, the democrats have produced a left wing lunatic who drapes himself in a false educated class in order to persuade the ignorant herds who follow him.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #329 on: June 08, 2008, 01:53:17 AM »
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #330 on: June 08, 2008, 02:06:39 AM »
maybe obama will give craig titus an pardon.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #331 on: June 08, 2008, 02:18:29 AM »
He's at least 7 foot 2, lean and muscular, a heroic basketball athlete.

Look at that commanding and overpowering jump for the rebound.  He must have healthy tendons and muscles, means healthy body and healthy brain/soul. Evidently he is a very decisive and clear thinker. He even stopped smoking.


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #332 on: June 08, 2008, 02:25:01 AM »
I am French
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #333 on: June 08, 2008, 02:27:20 AM »
As long as i don't lose my rights to CCW, i'm cool.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #334 on: June 08, 2008, 03:09:20 AM »
A lot of people, a lot of countries hate America, and this hate is based primarily on jealousy. It's in the very nature of man to be jealous of his superior.

On day to day living, just finances, I get free healthcare, free college, zero income tax. As a guardian of a college age kid, this saves me $40,000+ a year. I would rather pay for college, 2 health policies and have part of my pay taken, having extra money blows ::)

People from sucky less developed nations yes would be jealous, of all us developed nations.

USA is a great nation with many benefits, and I enjoy travelling there frequently to shop. Australians per capita have higher average incomes, free healthcare and only a 25% chance than Americans do of being murdered. Europe offers great things, as does Canada, Cayman, New Zealand etc. All developed nations offer great things, that some others don't.

USA is disliked by many due to their foreign policy, and it is fascinating they do not see that. Canadians, Brits, Swiss etc do not go on about everyone being jealous, despite coming from nations that also offer great standards. Some people criticize here - it's small, boring and hot as hell and we are like we know, sorry about that lol. We don't think they are jealous, as we know its all disgustingly hot.

Only other place I see this phenomen of arrogantly asssuming all dislike as jealousy, is female bodybuilding. They gear to death, look mannish - but honestly believe people do not like them as they are jealous. Only 2 groups of people I have ever seen it from. Fascinating really.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #335 on: June 08, 2008, 03:15:19 AM »
On day to day living, just finances, I get free healthcare, free college, zero income tax. As a guardian of a college age kid, this saves me $40,000+ a year. I would rather pay for college, 2 health policies and have part of my pay taken, having extra money blows ::)

People from sucky less developed nations yes would be jealous, of all us developed nations.

USA is a great nation with many benefits, and I enjoy travelling there frequently to shop. Australians per capita have higher average incomes, free healthcare and only a 25% chance than Americans do of being murdered. Europe offers great things, as does Canada, Cayman, New Zealand etc. All developed nations offer great things, that some others don't.

USA is disliked by many due to their foreign policy, and it is fascinating they do not see that. Canadians, Brits, Swiss etc do not go on about everyone being jealous, despite coming from nations that also offer great standards. Some people criticize here - it's small, boring and hot as hell and we are like we know, sorry about that lol. We don't think they are jealous, as we know its all disgustingly hot.

Only other place I see this phenomen of arrogantly asssuming all dislike as jealousy, is female bodybuilding. They gear to death, look mannish - but honestly believe people do not like them as they are jealous. Only 2 groups of people I have ever seen it from. Fascinating really.
yeah but your healthcare sucks. And you pay $$$ sales tax. You have to drive to the us, to buy shit. :-\ And it's cold. Canada sucks.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #336 on: June 08, 2008, 03:20:56 AM »
This man in an Idiot and Dangerous.........




That's not what he said at all.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #337 on: June 08, 2008, 03:21:38 AM »
yeah but your healthcare sucks. And you pay $$$ sales tax. You have to drive to the us, to buy shit. :-\ And it's cold. Canada sucks.

We have no sales tax :-\

I adore our healthcare. Free here, and larger things [operations] done wherever we want, including the US. So if ours sucks, so does yours as we get all yours free. It's kinda cool to get free travel and hotel to see the doctor, slide in vacations too on gov dollars

I said twice it was hot as hell here, last I was in Canada I froze my butt off, would not call it hot as hell :-\

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #338 on: June 08, 2008, 04:50:44 AM »
What the fuck? when i first started posting you were being all racist. What changed?
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #339 on: June 08, 2008, 05:36:57 AM »
He's at least 7 foot 2, lean and muscular, a heroic basketball athlete.

Look at that commanding and overpowering jump for the rebound.  He must have healthy tendons and muscles, means healthy body and healthy brain/soul. Evidently he is a very decisive and clear thinker. He even stopped smoking.



That's just mean.

Just to add insult to injury on McCain, he lets a picture of himself with his arms raised above his head become public.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #340 on: June 08, 2008, 05:40:20 AM »
That's just mean.

Just to add insult to injury on McCain, he lets a picture of himself with his arms raised above his head become public.

McCain will bomb a nation of 70 million people (Iran) without even raising his hand.  That's power, baby.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #341 on: June 08, 2008, 06:40:22 AM »
We have no sales tax :-\

I adore our healthcare. Free here, and larger things [operations] done wherever we want, including the US. So if ours sucks, so does yours as we get all yours free. It's kinda cool to get free travel and hotel to see the doctor, slide in vacations too on gov dollars

I said twice it was hot as hell here, last I was in Canada I froze my butt off, would not call it hot as hell :-\


You realize that the reason your socialist policies can work is because you can benefit from the billions of dollars that American companies have poured into research and development of drugs and medical equipment? If your country had to spend that money itself, it would be bankrupt.


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #342 on: June 08, 2008, 06:40:44 AM »
I'm going to make a prediction here...

Barring Republican electronic vote rigging (a very real possibility), I'm going to predict Obama with AT LEAST 70% of the vote.



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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #343 on: June 08, 2008, 07:02:34 AM »
I'm going to make a prediction here...

Barring Republican electronic vote rigging (a very real possibility), I'm going to predict Obama with AT LEAST 70% of the vote.



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Thanks for the political analysis.

I can now sleep much calmer knowing this.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #344 on: June 08, 2008, 08:40:35 AM »
You realize that the reason your socialist policies can work is because you can benefit from the billions of dollars that American companies have poured into research and development of drugs and medical equipment? If your country had to spend that money itself, it would be bankrupt


Wouldn't socialist be more the richer paying taxes to subsidise the poor, therefore not apply to us so much? [not sure]

Your point is valid, but the fact still remains that nationals of my country would not be jealous - which was my only point.

What weirdo here would be jealous of paying income tax and getting no healthcare? We rather like paying no income tax and getting free health.

The college we get free here and in an European nation, so one could say we are benefiting from Europe on that - we don't discriminate ;D

I am in no manner slamming the USA, said a million times I go there alot, but our standard of living afforded to us in one that simply would not invoke jealousy. Same as I would not expect an American to be 'envious' of a Canadian, Australian, Caymanian, Swiss et al as they are all nice nations offering great standards of living.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #345 on: June 08, 2008, 09:34:50 AM »
I'm going to make a prediction here...

Barring Republican electronic vote rigging (a very real possibility), I'm going to predict Obama with AT LEAST 70% of the vote.



The Luke


LOL...oh God please. For a second.......just a second, I thought there might have been hope for you :(

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #346 on: June 08, 2008, 10:59:56 AM »
Wouldn't socialist be more the richer paying taxes to subsidise the poor, therefore not apply to us so much? [not sure]

Your point is valid, but the fact still remains that nationals of my country would not be jealous - which was my only point.

What weirdo here would be jealous of paying income tax and getting no healthcare? We rather like paying no income tax and getting free health.

The college we get free here and in an European nation, so one could say we are benefiting from Europe on that - we don't discriminate ;D

I am in no manner slamming the USA, said a million times I go there alot, but our standard of living afforded to us in one that simply would not invoke jealousy. Same as I would not expect an American to be 'envious' of a Canadian, Australian, Caymanian, Swiss et al as they are all nice nations offering great standards of living.

My point is that many socialist policies of smaller countries can leech off the capitalist policies of the United States.

You seem to think that everything should be free. The problem with that type of thinking is that NOTHING is free. I'm pretty sure you have an infrastucture where you live. That costs money in raw materials, labor and equipment. Someone has to pay for that. Same goes for healthcare. Hospitals have to be built. Doctors don't work for free. Again, someone has to pay for that.

Socialists tend to avoid these "inconvenient truths."

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #347 on: June 08, 2008, 11:14:42 AM »
Agreed.

It's hard to legitimize any argument that claims America is still not top dog on the block. The biggest argument outsiders or those inside have against America right now is the fact that the dollar is a tad bit weaker then it was a few years back...but come on, let's put it into perspective...is America really falling apart?

People clamor about our national debt, people gripe that economically we're not as powerfull as we used to be. Well is this true? I don't think so.

Which country still funds over 90% of the WOC (World Bank)? America.
Which country still spends more money then any other on goods and services? America
Which country still has one of the highest home owner rates in the world? America

As for our national debt, where does most of this lie? In the WOC and other similar institutions that we are the primary funders for...who's going to call us on that, ourselves? Doubt it.

Who still has the most powerfull military in the world? America. Some would argue against this simply because the way things have drawn out in Iraq. But seriously, think about it...anyone with half a brain knows that could be over in less then 24hrs if our military was given the green light to do so. The only reason it hasn't is because of bullshit protocol and bitching by the rest of the world. The rest of the world is still scared of our muscle, and rightfully so...and you can bet your ass anytime we flex that muscle, there is going to be crying in the streets.

A lot of people, a lot of countries hate America, and this hate is based primarily on jealousy. It's in the very nature of man to be jealous of his superior. I say who cares. Since when is what others think really all that important? Sure, some will argue that we as America need outside countries for support. Quite the contrary...we choose to let these outsiders have a taste of what we have in order to better our own lives here at home. If it came down to it, America could easily do without outside help...of course half the countries in the world would be decimated, since it is they who rely on us for financial and defense support.

Last little bit, every great country, every great empire in history has eventually fallen. True, America may one day be destined to the same fate...time will tell. But we are a far cry from this now. You may hear and read over seas that America is on the brink of oblivion, but what else would you expect? As corny as it might sound, but it is the truth, the American dream is still alive, still breathing, still kicking and holding strong. Any foreigner who doesn't believe that should come here for himself and see first hand.

Well....that is one of the best, if not the best, posts I have ever seen on here!

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #348 on: June 08, 2008, 11:19:17 AM »
On day to day living, just finances, I get free healthcare, free college, zero income tax. As a guardian of a college age kid, this saves me $40,000+ a year. I would rather pay for college, 2 health policies and have part of my pay taken, having extra money blows ::)

People from sucky less developed nations yes would be jealous, of all us developed nations.

USA is a great nation with many benefits, and I enjoy travelling there frequently to shop. Australians per capita have higher average incomes, free healthcare and only a 25% chance than Americans do of being murdered. Europe offers great things, as does Canada, Cayman, New Zealand etc. All developed nations offer great things, that some others don't.

USA is disliked by many due to their foreign policy, and it is fascinating they do not see that. Canadians, Brits, Swiss etc do not go on about everyone being jealous, despite coming from nations that also offer great standards. Some people criticize here - it's small, boring and hot as hell and we are like we know, sorry about that lol. We don't think they are jealous, as we know its all disgustingly hot.

Only other place I see this phenomen of arrogantly asssuming all dislike as jealousy, is female bodybuilding. They gear to death, look mannish - but honestly believe people do not like them as they are jealous. Only 2 groups of people I have ever seen it from. Fascinating really.


Well, I don't see how it is 'free'...its gotta be paid for somehow, someway....Taxes?

What kind of docs work for nothing?

Not very good ones.

I would never, ever seek healthcare outside of New England...the world apex of quality healthcare.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #349 on: June 08, 2008, 11:21:03 AM »
McCain will bomb a nation of 70 million people (Iran) without even raising his hand.  That's power, baby.

Hoo-hah!