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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2008, 11:34:57 AM »
I'm voting for McCain, and I urge anyone who doesn't want a radical socialist agenda unleashed on America to do the same.  Maybe you don't like McCain personally, maybe you don't like the religocrats, maybe you don't like Bush and his gang of idiots, but hold your nose and vote McCain anyway.  Hidden behind Obama's slick media image there are some pretty scary policy positions. 

I second that.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2008, 11:37:46 AM »

Despite what your media tells you, only half of the Republican support base are religious nuts.  The other half are people with libertarian leanings who believe limited government is essential to individual freedom. Why should we give 3/4 of our money to the government so they can "wisely spend it on our behalf" as though we were children or something?  I prefer to keep taxes limited to only the necessary items, and decide for myself how my resources should be allocated. 

Libertarians aren't happy with the republican party.

Someone like McCain isn't even close to being a conservative, much less libertarian

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2008, 11:40:06 AM »
The statement made as the subject of this thread is simply untrue.  No politician in his right mind would ever endorse a policy of a complete gun ban simply because he/she would never get elected.  And a politicians first priority is to be elected.  This sound to me like something someone heard on right wing talk radio, meant to scare them into not thinking for themselves. You hear this all the time, they are going to take away my guns or my bible.  A thinking person should be offended by this kind of fear mongering.  If you get your news from these type of sources whether they be liberal or conservative you are missing about 90% of the truth.

   I am a member of the NRA and a gun owner and I have no fear of Obama taking my guns as I have actually heard him address this issue directly.  What I am more concerned with is illegal wire tapping and date mining which mind bogglingly right wingers who claim they want less government seem to think is appropriate.  Everyone should be afraid of this.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2008, 11:43:10 AM »
Obama will be revealed as the radical socialist he is. The country will never go there.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2008, 11:45:46 AM »
   I am a member of the NRA and a gun owner and I have no fear of Obama taking my guns as I have actually heard him address this issue directly.  What I am more concerned with is illegal wire tapping and date mining which mind bogglingly right wingers who claim they want less government seem to think is appropriate.  Everyone should be afraid of this.

JoeLocal has said repeatedly that he has nothing to hide, so he doesn't care if the govt snoops thru his email or mail.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2008, 11:46:01 AM »
Actually, this will prob be an easy win for Obama.

People are tired of high gas prices, job lay-offs, foreclosures everywhere, and the war and they are going to blame the party responsible for it at the booths.  McCain unfortunately has gotten the raw end of the deal as he's inherited all of Bush's problem.

People will take color as a factor...except it will be the color of money.  The current President has royally fucked up the economy and I think that will take presidence over electing a black President.  Nothing personal but McCain

I don't like any politicians black or white but sorry Coach but Barack Obama will become the next President of the United States. 

I don't like either candidate.

I don't like your reasons for voting for Obama. What he is promising should raise a red flag to anyone with common sense. He isn't going to solve all of these problems and people are falling for it.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2008, 11:50:19 AM »
JoeLocal has said repeatedly that he has nothing to hide, so he doesn't care if the govt snoops thru his email or mail.

LOL!!!

"I have nothing to hide" has never been a saying used by totalitarians or anything.  ::)
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2008, 11:55:09 AM »
JoeLocal has said repeatedly that he has nothing to hide, so he doesn't care if the govt snoops thru his email or mail.


That is unfortunate because it clearly demonstrates he does not understand the principles by which this nation was founded.  It is not the fear of finding something incriminating that people find this type of governmental intrusion alarming but the principle that we have protection against unlawful search and seizure.   In short, they shouldn't be looking in the first place and if you provide them with that type of access how far will they take it.   Truthfully its a slippery slope argument but I wouldn't want to test it practically.   I always find it ironic that certain people are so outraged and in fear of politicians taking their guns away but endorse, condone and encourage other intrusive behaviors like those stated above.    What they don't realize is that gun ownership is so wide spread and the gun lobby so immense that the possibility of guns being completely banned is next to impossible.  They are clearly being manipulated probably by fear.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2008, 11:59:57 AM »
...exactly what constitutes a "radical liberal agenda"?

Proper schools?... lower profits for Big Oil and the Military-Industrial Complex?... a proper social welfare system?...

The anti-communist propaganda of the 1950's has done America a great disservice.


The very fact that Obama has managed to organise such a sophisticated campaign machine speaks to his competence... his continued refusal to run negative ads and slurs speaks to his character.


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2008, 12:03:10 PM »
...exactly what constitutes a "radical liberal agenda"?

Proper schools?... lower profits for Big Oil and the Military-Industrial Complex?... a proper social welfare system?...

The anti-communist propaganda of the 1950's has done America a great disservice.


The very fact that Obama has managed to organise such a sophisticated campaign machine speaks to his competence... his continued refusal to run negative ads and slurs speaks to his character.


The Luke


well said.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2008, 12:05:57 PM »
Hey Coach. People say a lot of things to get elected.....


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2008, 12:08:03 PM »
Libertarians aren't happy with the republican party.


I agree.  However, for them it is the usual choice of "lesser or two evils" vis-a-vis their political philosophy.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2008, 12:14:30 PM »
McCain, McCain! YES! YES! YES! Splat.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2008, 12:15:59 PM »
Luke is clearly getting his information from Pravda or the Daily Worker. Please disregard as the rosy picture he paints for such a society is clearly a stretch.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2008, 12:18:29 PM »
Luke is clearly getting his information from Pravda or the Daily Worker. Please disregard as the rosy picture he paints for such a society is clearly a stretch.

...read the UN reports detailing the indices related to the "Living Index".

You need evidence to counter someone's argument... Europe has set the example that socialism works.

But then again, most Americans can't find Europe on a globe.


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2008, 12:21:59 PM »
...read the UN reports detailing the indices related to the "Living Index".

You need evidence to counter someone's argument... Europe has set the example that socialism works.

But then again, most Americans can't find Europe on a globe.


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Oh Boy.....now the commi's are coming out of the woodwork. Haven't heard from them too much since the wall came down.................... ....and the bashing of Americans as people like Luke crawl over each other to get here......with very bad teeth and hygeine I might add.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2008, 12:24:15 PM »
Oh Boy.....now the commi's are coming out of the woodwork. Haven't heard from them too much since the wall came down.

...name calling? Does that qualify as political discourse in the US?


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2008, 12:32:40 PM »


But then again, most Americans can't find Europe on a globe.


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Really?  How 'bout you take this quiz and see how you do:

http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/eurocapquiz.html

I scored 117 out of 117, and gee... I'm an American.
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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2008, 12:33:48 PM »
Ron: "I am lazy."

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2008, 12:35:40 PM »
not every american is a bad person.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2008, 12:38:53 PM »
not every american is a bad person.


Have you converted to AIDS Islam yet?

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2008, 12:40:55 PM »
not every american is a bad person.
No they'r just all dumb....according to Luke who says we can't find Europe on a map. Maybe it's because we really don't care as much as you guys who seem to know exactly where North America is as we're flooded with you sucking off our system.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2008, 12:42:05 PM »

Have you converted to AIDS Islam yet?

jewish american.

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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2008, 12:42:50 PM »
I don't like either candidate.

I don't like your reasons for voting for Obama. What he is promising should raise a red flag to anyone with common sense. He isn't going to solve all of these problems and people are falling for it.


Who said I was voting for Obama???  Like I said, I don't like any of the choices.  I may either sit it out for bring my Magic 8 Ball to the Booth.

No matter who is elected, they are not going to do a damn thing for you. 


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Re: Obama Vows To Disarm America
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2008, 12:46:48 PM »

Who said I was voting for Obama???  Like I said, I don't like any of the choices.  I may either sit it out for bring my Magic 8 Ball to the Booth.

No matter who is elected, they are not going to do a damn thing for you. 




no one did

I don't like your reasons for why people would vote for him.