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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2008, 11:14:14 AM »
Please tell me about this?

See it for yourself!   The next president, singing a funny song about bombing Iran.




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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2008, 11:18:41 AM »
Israel is set and if McCain gets elected then it's war in the MiddleEast and maybe years more global instability

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2008, 11:24:37 AM »
new invitation for future attacks on usa if voting for the mc cain.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2008, 11:31:11 AM »
With Candidizzle you can see it's a racial thing.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2008, 11:32:29 AM »
terming him as a radical liberal is fucked up and hurts him in the polls and ultimately the final vote

in todays political world obama might be considered "radical" based on where he stands compared to where the rest of politicians stand...    

BUT

lets put obama in the context of HISTORY ITSELF.... where does he fit in on the scale of ideaology then ? he is far from 'radical" my friend. in fact id say he is the closest thing to being completely OBJECTIVE that any country any where in any time has ever had as a leader...




 I have no idea where you came up with your world scale, or what "objective" is supposed to mean within a political context. The only context we can discuss this in is within this country as right and left ideologies are greatly skewed in other parts of the world.

Obama is easily one of the most leftwing candidates the Democrats have run in some time, which is saying a lot when you consider this is the party that ran their version of a war hero last time, which consisted of picking a guy who spent most of the Vietnam war calling his brethren criminals. We know for a fact that the church Obama grew up in and identifies with believes in the worst kind of leftwing whites-are-out-to-get-us ideology. We know his wife hasn't found anything to be proud about this country until Obama ran for president.

His voting record in the senate was almost always to the far left of most Americans, even on the issue of abortion. In April 2002, he voted against a bill to protect babies born alive after a failed abortion procedure. Does that sound mainstream, or "objective" to you? In Obama's own book he waxes poetically about Jimmy Carter while explaining how much he hated Reagan.

On economics, he's argued that wealthy people are only wealthy due to the efforts of others, thus their money isn't their own. Care to ask the average American if they agree with this sentiment?

I mean, I guess he's "objective" if the objective is to run as the most leftwing candidate we've seen since Mcgovern.
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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2008, 11:35:12 AM »
grape ape .. theres no hope left for you... im sure you believe youve got a handle on that opinion of yours and that you are correct and all that jive...

take a step back bro

i dont care who you support whether its mccain obama ron paul or satan himself; doesnt matter to me dude.....   one thing i suggest though is for you to turn off the news, put down the papers, stop listening to th pundits and just think this whole "politics" thing through on your own..

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2008, 11:35:49 AM »

 I have no idea where you came up with your world scale, or what "objective" is supposed to mean within a political context. The only context we can discuss this in is within this country as right and left ideologies are greatly skewed in other parts of the world.

Obama is easily one of the most leftwing candidates the Democrats have run in some time, which is saying a lot when you consider this is the party that ran their version of a war hero last time, which consisted of picking a guy who spent most of the Vietnam war calling his brethren criminals. We know for a fact that the church Obama grew up in and identifies with believes in the worst kind of leftwing whites-are-out-to-get-us ideology. We know his wife hasn't found anything to be proud about this country until Obama ran for president.

His voting record in the senate was almost always to the far left of most Americans, even on the issue of abortion. In April 2002, he voted against a bill to protect babies born alive after a failed abortion procedure. Does that sound mainstream, or "objective" to you? In Obama's own book he waxes poetically about Jimmy Carter while explaining how much he hated Reagan.

On economics, he's argued that wealthy people are only wealthy due to the efforts of others, thus their money isn't their own. Care to ask the average American if they agree with this sentiment?

I mean, I guess he's "objective" if the objective is to run as the most leftwing candidate we've seen since Mcgovern.

The opposite end of the spectrum includes a racist who mouths people as "gooks" long after his stay at the Hannoy Hilton. I haven't heard Obama say anything negatives about other groups..

McCain is pretty liberal himself, so it's not like you've got on actual conservative. On top of that, he's of the same stubborn mold as Bush.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2008, 11:43:47 AM »
grape ape .. theres no hope left for you... im sure you believe youve got a handle on that opinion of yours and that you are correct and all that jive...

take a step back bro

i dont care who you support whether its mccain obama ron paul or satan himself; doesnt matter to me dude.....   one thing i suggest though is for you to turn off the news, put down the papers, stop listening to th pundits and just think this whole "politics" thing through on your own..

Why not refute what I said instead of making generalized statements?  That's how discussions are supposed to work.

What I post are my own opinions based on my beliefs and research I've done.  If you disagree with them, fine, healthy debate is a good thing.  But if your rebuttal is just going to be blanketed assumptions about the methodology behind my post rather than refuting any of the actual substance of it, I'll just make my own assumption that you have no real answer for it.
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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2008, 11:46:18 AM »


McCain is pretty liberal himself, so it's not like you've got on actual conservative. On top of that, he's of the same stubborn mold as Bush.

I agree with this.  McCain is a horrible Republican, by definition.  I believe he was even on the fence as whether or not to become Kerry's running mate.
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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2008, 11:56:58 AM »
team obama :)

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2008, 01:21:21 PM »
  I don't like McCain but it is pretty obvious that Obama does not have what it takes to the U.S president.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2008, 01:23:28 PM »
See it for yourself!   The next president, singing a funny song about bombing Iran.





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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2008, 02:14:11 PM »
You were are FOOLS for not supporting Ron Paul.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2008, 02:20:26 PM »
Why not refute what I said instead of making generalized statements?  That's how discussions are supposed to work.

What I post are my own opinions based on my beliefs and research I've done.  If you disagree with them, fine, healthy debate is a good thing.  But if your rebuttal is just going to be blanketed assumptions about the methodology behind my post rather than refuting any of the actual substance of it, I'll just make my own assumption that you have no real answer for it.
no point in arguing policy or opinion or idealogy dude...      no one will ever be in 100% agreement on those things...   what you should want to argue is motivations and intent and character and whether people are subjective/ objective  and whther they are empathetic ...ect ect


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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2008, 02:31:41 PM »
don't know bout da rest of ya fellas but my big concern is the us economy :'( who do y'all think is gonna help it more?

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2008, 02:33:17 PM »
don't know bout da rest of ya fellas but my big concern is the us economy :'( who do y'all think is gonna help it more?
  neither of them. the american people have got to do that on their own.   an artificial policy change or stimulus would only be temporary. we need innovation and personal responsibility and a surge in work ethic..

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2008, 03:02:03 PM »
oh my god... this politician is just so far LEFT he is so RADICAL... ahhhh i cant stand how dangerous and radical this guy is



hahhaa. if this is radical i dont wanna be normal.   whats so radical about being bi-partisan and earnestly wanting to change the way our country operates ?


Bi-partisan...what the hell are u talking about?He's done nothing..nothing in a bi-partisan way at all....not in the Senate , not back in Ill. He barely has a record and certainly not one of moving across the isle to work with Republicans. The guy is an empty suit socialist. He's actually lucky to be Black, in this race. Otherwise he'd have been lit up by the media a long time ago.  Oh and illustrate what he will change for us...what new Barack idea will show us the way? More raising of the taxes, more failed diplomacy, more prostrating ourselves to the UN.  The only thing Comrade Obama will do is kick the can down the road for somebody else to fix.
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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2008, 03:45:24 PM »
don't know bout da rest of ya fellas but my big concern is the us economy :'( who do y'all think is gonna help it more?


Every one is responsible for their own welfare, not the government.  That's the problem with America today: everyone thinks they are entitled to an SUV on 24's, big screen tvs in high def, and not having to work to get it.  This country was built on capitalism, not socialism.  The best idea's, best work ethic, best qualified....ect. get the best stuff.  Just because Joe Blow got a college degree and makes 7 digits, means that every high school drop out should too.  Take of yourself and the cycle of the world will keep on rotating.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2008, 03:56:32 PM »
If McCain is pres...then the dollar will be on par with the nuevo peso.  Let me put it this way.  I went to another country 4 yrs ago and the dollar was 4-1.  Now...it 1.4-1 and falling.  We are talking 3rd World.  We need a BIG change. I'd go Hilliary or Obama...just to give hope a chance.
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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2008, 04:18:08 PM »
  neither of them. the american people have got to do that on their own.   an artificial policy change or stimulus would only be temporary. we need innovation and personal responsibility and a surge in work ethic..

Candi you are very sage for your years

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2008, 04:20:00 PM »
aahhhh you give me too much credit moose. but thanks anyway  :)

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2008, 04:20:58 PM »
no no...credit give only when due, young squire

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2008, 04:55:03 PM »
if you want a surge in work ethic, vote republican and against unions.

Unions = the most socialist, anti-capitalist thing you can do.

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2008, 04:56:31 PM »
if you want a surge in work ethic, vote republican and against unions.

Unions = the most socialist, anti-capitalist thing you can do.

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Republican=accentuate the efforts of the indivual and self-reliance

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Re: mccain vows to keep the entire world hating the USA
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2008, 04:56:45 PM »
if you want a surge in work ethic, vote republican and against unions.

Unions = the most socialist, anti-capitalist thing you can do.

although on the surface it might seem that dropping taxes, going laizzes faire, and cutting all social programs would spur work ethic and innovation... in fact history shows no correlation between the two