1999 British GP

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND is on the defensive and being totally owned yet again.

ND, if you could make a career out of being owned on Getbig, you could quit McDonalds and retire!

hahahahhaaha

Typical Hulkster move when confronted with facts , don't answer any of them and start in with the ad hominem attack

We're all still waiting for you to counter my points ........................ ........ .

[NarcissisticDeity]

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Dorian , Dorian , Dorian and Dorian 

[Hulkster]

Typical Hulkster move when confronted with facts , don't answer any of them and start in with the ad hominem attack

We're all still waiting for you to counter my points ........................ ........ .

you just don't get it.

this is bodybuilding.

not a philosophical debate.

there is no 'countering of points'

all there is are onstage visuals. and they counter everything dorian ever brought to the stage:

[NarcissisticDeity]

you just don't get it.

this is bodybuilding.

not a philosophical debate.

there is no 'countering of points'

all there is are onstage visuals. and they counter everything dorian ever brought to the stage:

No you can't debate hence why you resort to ad hominem attacks you have no skills and no knowledge thats why you're reduced to such nonsense

and yes there is a countering of point in case you didn't know contests are judged by a set of criteria and all 13 judged must adhere to said criteria the include muscular bulk ( Dorian ) muscle density ( Dorian ) muscle dryness ( Dorian ) muscle balance ( Dorian ) muscle proportion ( Dorian ) and posing & presentation ( Dorian ) you can't counter that Ronnie had the edge in these areas and thus would win all you do is post pics and you guessed it use more faulty logic argument ad populum as your ' proof ' which anyone well versed in debate knows is worthless and the position of the intellectually bankrupt ( YOU )

IFBB Criteria = Dorian deal with it. 

[Hulkster]

ND still doesn't understand that no amount of verbal explanation will stop reality:

verbal debates have limited use in this sport. its all about visual comparisons. not thesis defending.

if you have to explain why someone is better by posting long post after long post in an effort to counter the visual evidence that shows that you are wrong, well, then that person is not better period.

no amount of explanation can erase this:

[Hulkster]

Jesus, this is simply the most inhuman back to ever walk the earth. Yates has muscles on his back that Coleman simply doesn't have. Unreal 

like I said, no amount of verbal diarrea can stop reality:

[NarcissisticDeity]

what ND doesn't want us to see:

99 ronnie crushing his hero at his 93 best:

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier , better balanced , and has fewer weaknesses hey thats everything the judges are looking for lol and please remember all rounds are physique rounds.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND still doesn't understand that no amount of verbal explanation will stop reality:

verbal debates have limited use in this sport. its all about visual comparisons. not thesis defending.

if you have to explain why someone is better by posting long post after long post in an effort to counter the visual evidence that shows that you are wrong, well, then that person is not better period.

no amount of explanation can erase this:

visual comparisons made by biased , ignorant and delusional fan-boys? ' comparisons ' where Ronnie's Coleman's calves are the same size as a 269 pound Dorian Yates lmmfao

bodybuilding is a visual sport and its judged LIVE & IN PERSON for a very good reason lol more weak Hulkster logic who claimed he is just as qualified to judge a professional bodybuilding contest at home on his PC than they are live & in person using faulty means ( pics & video ) lol

Hulkster = failure.

[Hulkster]

visual comparisons made by biased , ignorant and delusional fan-boys?

you are calling pretty much the entire bb community except you and your two bitches ignorant?

 

please.

get real.

most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason.

you just can't deal with it.

[England_1]

Damn, this shot shows just how horrible Coleman hit this pose  Yates just destroys him.

Hey, Hulkster, take this visual evidence and shove it where the sun don't shine 

[England_1]

Nice to see Ronnie in his G4P boots LOL. I wonder if he wore these for Uncle Joe? 

[bigbobs]

LOL I clicked on the first time to check it out (on the last page) and from the the thread title I had no idea it was a Hulkster vs. ND/England_1 thread.  Another thread hijacked. 

[Hulkster]

what ND and his bitch don't want everyone to see:

93 yates being crushed by the man who most everyone feels is 'unbeatable' at his best:

[Hulkster]

LOL I clicked on the first time to check it out (on the last page) and from the the thread title I had no idea it was a Hulkster vs. ND/England_1 thread.  Another thread hijacked. 

its not my fault ND is so insecure about anything to do with Ronnie 99.

the minute the pics went up, there was McD posting his verbal diarrea..

I simply don't let him get away with it.

neither does most of the board.

lots of people are owning his sorry ass on this thread besides me..

[NarcissisticDeity]

you are calling pretty much the entire bb community except you and your two bitches ignorant?

 

please.

get real.

most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason.

you just can't deal with it.

Again you're the most simple person who posts because what do you do? use more faulty logic as for your reason why Ronnie would beat Dorian LMMFAO there is NO WAY IN HELL you're college educated no fucking way lol you know you can't counter the argument set forth so what do you do ? resort to more faulty logic

MORON let me explain this to you for the umpteenth time most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason. is a classic example of the argument ad populum

argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."

just because a LOT of people think its true DOES NOT I repeat for the stupid people ( Hulkster , Iceman , Neoseminole ) DOES NOT make it true lol fuck me you're retarded lol I've never come across anyone who's position is based on such piss-poor logic and when they're exposed they keep fucking using it lol its remarkable how stupid you are I'm still laughing at the comment ' the entire bb community '

( shakes head and laughs )

I'm going to bed with a smile on my face because your stupidity amuses me lol I seriously am lol

[Iceman1981]

First of all he's not missing any bodyparts thats your fan-boy delusions rearing their ugly head again your ignorance keeps showing , keep this in mind in a professional bodybuilding contest all rounds are physique rounds seeing you don't have a clue what this means let me explain it to you ( yet again )

all rounds are physique rounds which means every single judging criteria is APPLIED all at once which includes muscular bulk , muscle density , muscle dryness , muscle balance , muscle proportion , and posing & presentation in every single pose so while Ronnie may have clear advantages in parts of the criteria as a whole he doesn't beat Dorian

So even in poses which YOU think ronnie had clear advantages in like the front double biceps shot he still gets beat because all rounds are physique rounds side chest for example which you claim he loses because of his ' arms delts & upper chest '   

when you look at the side chest in profile does Ronnie 99 beat Dorian in posing & presentation? NO why? because he can't even do the pose correctly

does Ronnie 99 beat Dorian in muscular bulk? NO Dorian was 260 pounds in 1995 and 269 pounds in 1993 ( pre-contest ) Ronnie 1999 was 257 pounds

does Ronnie beat Dorian in muscle density & dryness? NO Dorian wrote the book on bone dry & rock hard conditioning he is the yardstick in which conditioned mass is measured by

does Ronnie 99 beat Dorian in muscle balance & proportion? NO his flaws compared to Dorian in the side chest are clearly evident calves to small for his quads , massively developed delts that obscure his pecs in this shot making them look small , forearms which aren't in proportion with his biceps/triceps , long arms in relation to his short torso just because you're willing to overlook this doesn't mean the judges are

So while Ronnie does have some advantages in this pose OVERALL seeing all rounds are physique rounds and ALL of the criteria is applied to each pose Dorian beats Ronnie clearly in the side chest shot in fact Ronnie himself said Dorian had the best side chest he ever seen ! and after all he is The Greatest Bodybuilder of All-Time

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Spewing your bs and posting pics of yates still doesn't make up for his small delts, arms and missing upper chest. Your worthless words don't mean a thing here anymore ever since you disagree with all of these guys:

Flex Wheeler
Jean Pierre Fux
John Hansen
George De Pirro
Ron Harris
Steve Blechman
Shawn Perine
Dan Soloman
Ben Weider
Allan Donnelly   
Dave Palumbo
Gunter Schlierkamp
David Robson
Bob Cicherillo
Raymond Cassar
Peter McGough
Team Flex
Lonnie Teper   
Joe Weider
Eryk Bui
Victor Martinez
Mike Matarrazo
Quincy Taylor
Melvin Anthony
Toney Freeman
Branch Warren
Capriese Murray
Craig Richardson
Stan McCrary
Chris Cormier
Aaron Baker
Don Long
Greg Valentino - (I don't like quoting him, but the fact that he could of chosen anyone, he chose Ronnie as the greatest of all-time)
Joe McNeal
King Kamali
Charles Glass
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
Jay Cutler
Ryan Mackie
Paul Dillet
Dexter Jackson
David Robson
Craig Titus
Myron Mielke
Milos Sarcev

[Iceman1981]

This pose is unbeatable by Coleman

Well, if the pose calls for small arms, delts and a missing upper chest, then yeah, he has Ronnie there. LOL.

[Iceman1981]

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier , better balanced , and has fewer weaknesses hey thats everything the judges are looking for lol and please remember all rounds are physique rounds.

Sure  , even with yates best pic of his bdb he still gets voted as having the "SECOND" best back. LOL.

OWNED

[England_1]

Sure  , even with yates best pic of his bdb he still gets voted as having the "SECOND" best back. LOL.

OWNED

This is clearly the best back ever you guy, and FLEX had in right in 1999 when they listed Yates as having the best back ever AFTER they saw Coleman in 99 

[NeoSeminole]

What you don't get is contests are judged buy a set of criteria and clearly Dorian meets this criteria better than Ronnie period. muscular bulk , muscle density , muscle dryness , muscle balance & proportion , posing & presentation you will NEVER escape this

yawn, we've already been through this. Ronnie has better muscular bulk, symmetry, definition, shape, and fullness. If we compare 03 Ronnie to 95 Dorian (arguably their respective primes), the difference in size is greater than the difference in conditioning. Ronnie outweighs Dorian by 30 lbs and there is no way in hell that was all water.

[Hulkster]

Again you're the most simple person who posts because what do you do? use more faulty logic as for your reason why Ronnie would beat Dorian LMMFAO there is NO WAY IN HELL you're college educated no fucking way lol you know you can't counter the argument set forth so what do you do ? resort to more faulty logic

MORON let me explain this to you for the umpteenth time most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason. is a classic example of the argument ad populum

argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."

just because a LOT of people think its true DOES NOT I repeat for the stupid people ( Hulkster , Iceman , Neoseminole ) DOES NOT make it true lol fuck me you're retarded lol I've never come across anyone who's position is based on such piss-poor logic and when they're exposed they keep fucking using it lol its remarkable how stupid you are I'm still laughing at the comment ' the entire bb community '

( shakes head and laughs )

I'm going to bed with a smile on my face because your stupidity amuses me lol I seriously am lol

see, if you had a brain you would see that this is NOT an ad populum argument.

an ad populum argument is an appeal simply based on numbers not facts (eg believe in God).

most everyone feels Ronnie beats yates because when the criteria are applied properly, he wins by a landslide.

you are not applying the criteria correctly at all, and you are mistaking the fact that you are wrong for everyone else being stupid and simply saying that Ronnnie beats yates just because everyone else does. this is NOT what is happening.

eg. you claim dorian has an advantage in muscular bulk when they are the same size and weight at the bests (both 257 (93 vs 99) and same height.

you claim dorian has better proportions when everyone can see he has piss poor small arms for his frame, a super thick non-bodybuilding type waist, and calves oversized for his frame. Ronnie has a much more classical frame, with a trim waist, great quad sweep, fantastic muscle shape. he looks like a classic champion bodybuilder. Yates looks like a fridge, or, even better as someone put it "a pile of dogshit that someone stirred up with twigs" LOL

you claim dorian was better conditioned, yet we have all shown a billion times that Ronnie at his best can match if not suprass him in the conditioning department.

so you see, you are not applying the criteria correctly.

the rest of the bb community are. and we prove it with pic after pic and video after video.

period.

its not ad populum.

its dumb ND.

simple as that.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie has better muscular bulk, symmetry, definition, shape, and fullness

no shit:

[NeoSeminole]

Jesus, this is simply the most inhuman back to ever walk the earth. Yates has muscles on his back that Coleman simply doesn't have. Unreal

[England_1]

Coleman's back is soggy and soft there. Not nearly as impressive as Yates who had veins running everywhere in his back in 95. Ronnie's back looks like a soggy sack of shit here. Not a single striation in his lats. Yates' back was more conditioned in the offseason than this 

[NeoSeminole]

Coleman's back is soggy and soft there. Not nearly as impressive as Yates who had veins running everywhere in his back in 95. Ronnie's back looks like a soggy sack of shit here. Not a single striation in his lats. Yates' back was more conditioned in the offseason than this

Ronnie isn't flexing his back in that pic, you dipshit. Guess what? Dorian's back looks the same when relaxed except smaller.

if you want to see striations in Ronnie's lats, here you go.