1999 British GP

[suckmymuscle]

THESE GUYS LOOK FUCKING AMAZING!!!

  The key word here is "guys"(plural). They all looked fantastic, much better than they looked at any other contest because of the specific stage lighting. This puts to rest Hulkster's bullshit claims that the lighting has nothing to do with it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Iceman1981]

This is clearly the best back ever you guy, and FLEX had in right in 1999 when they listed Yates as having the best back ever AFTER they saw Coleman in 99 

LOL, keep telling that to yourself.

I guess 90% or more of the bodybuilding community are Ronnie nuthuggers then, LOL. Go back to sucking ND's d*ck because that's all your good for.

[NarcissisticDeity]

  The key word here is "guys"(plural). They all looked fantastic, much better than they looked at any other contest because of the specific stage lighting. This puts to rest Hulkster's bullshit claims that the lighting has nothing to do with it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Ha Ha Ha sucky is back and taking name !! another post exposing Hulkster and his bullshit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL, keep telling that to yourself.

I guess 90% or more of the bodybuilding community are Ronnie nuthuggers then, LOL. Go back to sucking ND's d*ck because that's all your good for.

See argument ad populum fan-boy 90% means nothing

Ronnie says Dorian had the best back , Yates never said that about him 

[Emmortal]

See argument ad populum fan-boy 90% means nothing

Ronnie says Dorian had the best back , Yates never said that about him 

You keep bringing this comment up but one thing I'd like to point out.  Ronnie was a big fan of Yates himself and Ronnie was overall a pretty humble person.  If Yates had been asked the same question, do you think he would said "Of course I have the best back ever" No, he would have named someone else, just like Ronnie did.  In my eyes they both had the two best backs in the history of the sport, there are some shots of Yates back that are just plane right out sick as fuck, same with Ronnie.  They were different in their own rights.

[suckmymuscle]

  Don't forget that Ronnie has black skin which naturally shows more definition that white skin. Why do you guys think white bodybuilders have to tan or get artificial tans before a contest?  

[suckmymuscle]

Ha Ha Ha sucky is back and taking name !! another post exposing Hulkster and his bullshit.

  Hey man, what's up? I can see that you've added another 5,000 posts to your post count with nothing but ownages of the Ronnie nut-riders...

[NarcissisticDeity]

You keep bringing this comment up but one thing I'd like to point out.  Ronnie was a big fan of Yates himself and Ronnie was overall a pretty humble person.  If Yates had been asked the same question, do you think he would said "Of course I have the best back ever" No, he would have named someone else, just like Ronnie did.  In my eyes they both had the two best backs in the history of the sport, there are some shots of Yates back that are just plane right out sick as fuck, same with Ronnie.  They were different in their own rights.

" Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me " " Jay better be reborn with better genetics to have a shot at beating me " " Being White sure help Jay win the Olympia "

" THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system "

Humble? I think not Ronnie did/does have a lot of respect for Dorian and Yates earned it and Yates always spoke highly of Ronnie but I think Ronnie was being honest

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Hey man, what's up? I can see that you've added another 5,000 posts to your post count with nothing but ownages of the Ronnie nut-riders...

Been busy? you haven't missed much same shit from these guys  you ain't back two seconds and already bitch slapping Hulkster lol and the fan-boys

[suckmymuscle]

Been busy? you haven't missed much same shit from these guys  you ain't back two seconds and already bitch slapping Hulkster lol and the fan-boys

  Yeah, it seems like they are recycling the same pictures and "arguments" from half a year ago. Answering your question, yes, I had some serious medical problems in my family - my brother has leukemia -, but it's over now and I'm back.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Yeah, it seems like they are recycling the same pictures and "arguments" from half a year ago. Answering your question, yes, I had some serious medical problems in my family - my brother has leukemia -, but it's over now and I'm back.

Wow no kidding sorry to hear about the health problems ! that sucks but good to see your name again. 

[suckmymuscle]

Wow no kidding sorry to hear about the health problems ! that sucks but good to see your name again. 

  Well, thank you. Nice to see you too. You are one of the very few posters here who actually has interesting things to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Emmortal]

" Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me " " Jay better be reborn with better genetics to have a shot at beating me " " Being White sure help Jay win the Olympia "

" THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:

It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system "

Humble? I think not Ronnie did/does have a lot of respect for Dorian and Yates earned it and Yates always spoke highly of Ronnie but I think Ronnie was being honest

Yea, like I said, he was pretty humble overall, but he had his moments.  He was competitive and didn't take shit from anyone, of course he's going to speak out and when you're pissed you're going to say things like that.  Doesn't mean he wasn't a humble guy.  He wasn't going around saying shit like that all the time or starting shit with people or being a pompous asshole.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yea, like I said, he was pretty humble overall, but he had his moments.  He was competitive and didn't take shit from anyone, of course he's going to speak out and when you're pissed you're going to say things like that.  Doesn't mean he wasn't a humble guy.  He wasn't going around saying shit like that all the time or starting shit with people or being a pompous asshole.

I get what you're saying.

[NeoSeminole]

Umm we've been through this and 2003 is NOT his ummm respective prime and neither is 1995 for Yates that was his prime Olympia showing

you keep deluding yourself inot thinking that, okay? I don't consider Dorian in his famous B&W pics his prime, but you are entitled to believe that.

[NeoSeminole]

See argument ad populum fan-boy 90% means nothing

learn wtf you are talking about, kiddo. It's not argument ad populum when 40 bodybuilding experts and insiders agree Ronnie at his prime is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time while 2-3 anonymous posters on Getbig disagree.

[Hulkster]

learn wtf you are talking about, kiddo. It's not argument ad populum when 40 bodybuilding experts and pros agree Ronnie at his prime is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time while 2-3 anonymous posters on Getbig disagree.

well said.

ND can't counter this..

[NarcissisticDeity]

learn wtf you are talking about, kiddo. It's not argument ad populum when 40 bodybuilding experts and insiders agree Ronnie at his prime is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time while 2-3 anonymous posters on Getbig disagree.

It absolutely is its a classic example and no matter how much you cry it isn't it doesn't change the fact that a POPULAR OPINION does NOT make it correct only popular

and MORON I agree he is the Greatest bodybuilder of all time that doesn't mean he couldn't be beaten by Dorian Yates

[Brutal_1]

ND, I think you need to reevaluate your posting priorities

[NarcissisticDeity]

you keep deluding yourself inot thinking that, okay? I don't consider Dorian in his famous B&W pics his prime, but you are entitled to believe that.

Deluding nothing!  anyone who knows anything about competitive bodybuilding knows 2003 isn't his best only fan-boys who bought into MD's nonsense do 

2003 Ronnie's density & condition , and balance & proportion are at their all-time worse so much for what you know.

[NarcissisticDeity]

well said.

ND can't counter this..

lmfao counter piss-poor logic? no need to

same dumb argument its an appeal to numbers 40 bodybuilding experts lol vs 2-3 people thats textbook and its still pathetic logic which you guys NEED to rely on

[NeoSeminole]

It absolutely is its a classic example and no matter how much you cry it isn't it doesn't change the fact that a POPULAR OPINION does NOT make it correct only popular

ha ha ha, you can repeat yourself all you want but you are still wrong.

and MORON I agree he is the Greatest bodybuilder of all time that doesn't mean he couldn't be beaten by Dorian Yates

bullshit, the majority of the quotes are talking about Ronnie's physique - NOT his total number of professional wins. 'Greatest bodybuilder of all-time' means he would beat every other bodybuilder in history, including Dorian Yates, otherwise Ronnie wouldn't be the greatest, now would he?

Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."

Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005

"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."

Joe Weider

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Jean Pierre Fux - http://www.criticalbench.com/Jean-Pierre-Fux.htm

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

[NeoSeminole]

2003 Ronnie's density & condition , and balance & proportion are at their all-time worse so much for what you know.

Ronnie's density and conditioning were worse in 00, 04, 06 and 07, and his balance and proportion were worse in 02, 04, 06 and 07. So I don't know wtf you are talking about "at their all-time worst."

[Hulkster]

lmfao counter piss-poor logic? no need to

same dumb argument its an appeal to numbers 40 bodybuilding experts lol vs 2-3 people thats textbook and its still pathetic logic which you guys NEED to rely on

so, the opposing arguments look like this:

 we have 40 bodybuilding experts plus all the visual evidence on our side.

you have your opinion along with two others, and you claim all the visuals (since they all own dorian) are either 'photoshopped" or 'don't matter". (neither of which is true)

which is the stronger argument?

 

this isn't rocket science folks.

but then again, maybe if you spend your day giving out happy meals, it might be..

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, you can repeat yourself all you want but you are still wrong.

bullshit, the majority of the quotes are talking about Ronnie's physique - NOT his total number of professional wins. 'Greatest bodybuilder of all-time' means he would beat every other bodybuilder in history, including Dorian Yates, otherwise Ronnie wouldn't be the greatest, now would he?

Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."

Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005

"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."

Joe Weider

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Jean Pierre Fux - http://www.criticalbench.com/Jean-Pierre-Fux.htm

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

ha ha ha, you can repeat yourself all you want but you are still wrong.

no your attempt in passing off an appeal to numbers is wrong it proves nothing other that your weak tactics and its a popular opinion not a correct one

bullshit, the majority of the quotes are talking about Ronnie's physique - NOT his total number of professional wins. 'Greatest bodybuilder of all-time' means he would beat every other bodybuilder in history, including Dorian Yates, otherwise Ronnie wouldn't be the greatest, now would he?

lmfao what a fan-boy no it doesn't mean he would beat every bodybuilder in history thats such diluted Muscular Development fan-boy delusion that you bought right into lol before Ronnie was the greatest ever it was Haney and why? Eight straight Olympia titles thats why

Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."

unbeatable against who? his competition sure again everyone who ever competed? you're taking liberties with this quote a tactic I've seen you use before

Team Flex Which includes Shawn Perine & Peter McGough thoughts on the subject at hand which shows you're reaching with that quote

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH..

Team Flex stating the only one who could go head to head with Ronnie is you guessed it Yates and notice he didn't mention 2003 Olympia with good reason 

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.



More of Team Flex stating you guessed it 


Dorian when asked this question I'm not sure if it was by " Team Flex "

4. A lot of people say that you are the only pro bodybuilder that could go head to head with Ronnie Coleman.  Like him, you were the only other to be able to gain so much mass in one year. What are your thoughts on this?


A. I get asked that question all the time, and I can’t really give an answer.  I have actually beaten Ronnie, but then he wasn’t at the stage he is now.  He is probably carrying more muscle than I did, but I feel I had better conditioning than him.  It would be close but that’s down to the judge’s decision as always.  All the things that we have in common – Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman and myself – is that we are all stable mentally, training hard, not messing around partying.  You have to keep the focus and it’s usually the mind that is the deciding factor, over physical capabilities.

notice the first part of the sentence " A lot of people say you are the only pro bodybuilder A LOT OF PEOPLE again more proof that Yates is very capable of beating Ronnie

Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005

"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."

I don't have a problem with Lonnie thinking this its his opinion and doesn't make it right !

Joe Weider

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

See above

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Right after his 2003 Olympia win and see above and the last person I would quote s Flex lol for a very good reason

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Again this is right after the 2003 Mr Olympia and this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Dorian Yates more reading comprehension problems for you

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Again Mike is very complimentary to bodybuilders

Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

Jean Pierre Fux - http://www.criticalbench.com/Jean-Pierre-Fux.htm

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Like Lonnie I don't have a problem with this quote its proof of NOTHING just his opinion

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

More reading comprehension problems for you moron this has NOTHING to do with Yates it has to do with his competition at the 2003 Mr Olympia and how Ronnie not being at his ' best ' the 2001/2002 was nearly beat don't ever questions ANYONES comprehension skills you dummy

And how do any of these quotes render the one from the man himself any less important? they DON'T in fact Ronnie himself stated he could NOT BEAT Dorian on three separate occasions you think any other quote makes that one obsolete? get a clue moron The Greatest Bodybuilder of All-Time has stated he doesn't think he could beat Dorian , does that make it true? NO but if you think your quotes matter more than the man in question you truly are stupid

bottom line Dorian is the ONLY pro at his best that would give Ronnie a run for his money if anyone thinks otherwise you're sadly mistaken there is a very good reason why Ronnie fears Yates just because you can't figure it doesn't mean there isn't.