what makes the quotes I posted more credible than yours? The people I quoted are paid to attend shows and write reviews. Some of them have been in the business longer than you've been following bodybuilding. Their words carry more weight than Ronnie (no offense to the guy) or Ernie Taylor. 
bullshit. You said you agreed with their assertion that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time due to number of wins. However, only 2-3 of the quotes mention Ronnie's professional wins. The other 35 or so quotes address Ronnie's physique. You conveniently left this part out and tried to make it seem like the quotes were in agreement with you. Don't play semantics with me, boy, b/c you will lose every time. 
how did I fall flat on my face? It says "best ever" right there, you dumbass.
Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."
Peter McGough and Shawn Perine both said Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable. They name Dorian as a contender but mention nothing about tying Ronnie if they went head-to-head. As for Ernie Taylor, has the guy even seen Dorian compete?
we've already been through this. You even acknowledged that Ronnie isn't fit to judge contests.
yawn, I've already addressed this. 03 Ronnie's combination of size, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness outweigh whatever faults he may of had that year.
yes, it does mean exactly what I posted. Sorry but you're wrong here. I challenge you to ask other people if you don't believe me.
you tried to dismiss Mike Matarazzo by saying he's complimentary to everyone. However, your objection is irrelevant in this case b/c he specifically compares Dorian to Ronnie and says Ronnie is better.
Dorian had less definition seven weeks out. What makes you think he looks more impressive than on contest day? Using your logic, Ronnie must of looked even better a few weeks out from competition. Any size advantage Dorian benefits from would be negated by Ronnie's increase in size.
what makes the quotes I posted more credible than yours? The people I quoted are paid to attend shows and write reviews. Some of them have been in the business longer than you've been following bodybuilding. Their words carry more weight than Ronnie (no offense to the guy) or Ernie Taylor.
Typical of you to always answer a question with a question ! and the same people who get paid to attend shows and write reviews YOU have dismissed as flat out wrong ( what was his major in college English lit? ) and no explanation why their words carry more weight than " The Greatest Bodybuilder of All-time " we're just supposed to take your word for it lol more of your retard logic and its not just Ronnie or Taylor or Priest either again you looking to find comfort in numbers
bullshit. You said you agreed with their assertion that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time due to number of wins. However, only 2-3 of the quotes mention Ronnie's professional wins. The other 35 or so quotes address Ronnie's physique. You conveniently left this part out and tried to make it seem like the quotes were in agreement with you. Don't play semantics with me, boy, b/c you will lose every time.
I agree that Ronnie is considered the Greatest of all-time just based on the amount of pro wins and Olympia wins , and again the bulk of the quote have to do with with this fact and the his competition at that PARTICULAR contest and your M.O. is always the same you avoid questions , answer questions with questions and project your inabilities on me you're so predictable and semantics I laughed out when I read this you're NOTORIOUS for playing with words
how did I fall flat on my face? It says "best ever" right there, you dumbass.
Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever — unbeatable."
You fell flat on your face because you're taking liberties with quotes Team Flex which include both McGough and Perine have claimed that the only other guy who could beat Ronnie 2001 is you guessed it , Dorian Yates but you keep posting this as if its proof what makes the other Team Flex members right and these two wrong? answer the question as well
Peter McGough and Shawn Perine both said Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable. They name Dorian as a contender but mention nothing about tying Ronnie if they went head-to-head. As for Ernie Taylor, has the guy even seen Dorian compete?
And interestingly enough both men also said 1998/2001 is Ronnie at his prime to drag up more of your stupid logic if you agree with ANY quote from them you're now bound to every quote by them ( I dismiss the logic long ago but just rehashed to expose your hypocrisy
) now look who is playing with words again
they mention nothing about tying him
using the IFBB judging citeria Dorian would have way to many advantages for a very light Ronnie and make a heavy Ronnie look ' soft ' ( 2003 )
and here is the quotes
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both menI think Ronnie is pretty much untouchable EXCEPT by Dorian Yates that means for the reading comprehension impaired that Dorian Yates could ' touch ' Ronnie at his best.
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
There you go the seed of doubt is planted and he no longer feels that Ronnie would beat Dorian so again what are you working with? nothing Ronnie 2001 is NOT unbeatable Dorian has all the tool to beat ANY version of Ronnie
and has Ernie Taylor seen Yates compete yes he has and he came to the conclusion Yates would beat Ronnie 1998 ! now what makes him less of an expert than your so-called ' expert ' Greg Valentino?
we've already been through this. You even acknowledged that Ronnie isn't fit to judge contests.
No you came up with some excuses you'll cling to every single quote saying he's the Greatest of All-time but when The Greatest of All-time speaks his words mean nothing lol again we've been through Ronnie having motivation for lying at contests because of injuries what motivation would he have to lie about Yates being better? none if anything he's being dead-pan honest
and to further expose your level of desperation you'll attack Ronnie's judging abilities yet proudly post a quote from Flex Wheeler who said he outright beat Ronnie in 1999 and at the 2007 Mr Olympia had Ronnie Coleman in FIRST place after the pre-judging lol now don't you look stupid ( pssst don't answer that , it was rhetorical
) Flex's opinion and judging abilities are GREAT Ronnie's isn't lol more Neo-stupid-logic , you're an idiot kid and I will continue pointing that out
yawn, I've already addressed this. 03 Ronnie's combination of size, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness outweigh whatever faults he may of had that year.
We've addressed EVERYTHING already you feel if you keep typing your same stupid comments over & over that they're right and its the same old bull shit same retard logic and faulty arguments
and Ronnie's combo in 2003 his strengths did outweighed his weaknesses RELATIVE to his mediocre competition that year that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Dorian Yates at his best who meets almost every single part of the criteria better than Ronnie with the exception of muscular bulk and it still has nothing to do with your stupid claim 2003 was his ' prime ' which no one who gets ' paid ' to follow contests agrees with for a very good reason , Ronnie himself said 1998 was his best Olympia lol oh but thats right he doesn't know much lol Neo does though lol
yes, it does mean exactly what I posted. Sorry but you're wrong here. I challenge you to ask other people if you don't believe me.
It means exactly what you posted because YOU say so , you offer no proof what so ever just an appeal to numbers lol ask other people and if they agree I'm right , see faulty logic see argument ad populum next......
you tried to dismiss Mike Matarazzo by saying he's complimentary to everyone. However, your objection is irrelevant in this case b/c he specifically compares Dorian to Ronnie and says Ronnie is better.
I don't dismiss Mike but he stated also Dorian may go down as the greatest ever I'm sure you agree with that
and again I don't have a problem with Mike feeling Ronnie is better and he would beat Yates thats a POPULAR opinion it doesn't make it right
and again what makes Mike's opinion more valid than Ronnie's? you're stuck in the subjective circle where you're tying to prove that a popular opinion is a right opinion its the hallmark of faulty logic something you're very familiar with especially considering you use it so often
Dorian had less definition seven weeks out. What makes you think he looks more impressive than on contest day? Using your logic, Ronnie must of looked even better a few weeks out from competition. Any size advantage Dorian benefits from would be negated by Ronnie's increase in size.
How do you know he had less definition? you'd have to be present at all contests and photo shoots and we know you weren't you speaking like a fan-boy yet again , you're ignorant as to what great conditioning is you've already posted pictures of Pop-N-Fresh and Yates seven weeks out implying he's smooth which NOTHING could be further from the truth , so you'd have to be savy on what conditioning is and isn't and you'd have to be there live & in person for every event for all the highs & lows and someone who was has commented on this subject and they say?
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.Ronnie was NEVER drier or harder than Dorian , NEVER means not in 1992/1996/1998/2001/2003/now until perpetuity and again you're taking liberties in thinking the same applies to Ronnie as it does Dorian NOT true its clearly evident the heavier Ronnie became the more his conditioning suffered for it , which is true of most competitors however Dorian was the exception to that rule ( to a point ) another person who was there at their highs & lows
Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th
The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.that conditioning has NOT been surpassed ! so Ronnie 2003 is down in density & dryness , balance & proportion , posing & presentation compared to a 269 pound Dorian what advantage does he have ? 18 pound advantage of less than dense size? Dorian's has way to many strengths for that and he's beaten plenty of bigger softer guys at much less bodyweights and speaking hypothetically Dorian could compete at 285 pounds and still crush Ronnie in every other aspect of the judging criteria so you're fucked either way
the simple fact that you think Ronnie 2003 is his prime showing , shows us exactly how out of touch you are with judging of competitive bodybuilding , much like Hulkster and his powers of deduction which came to the conclusion Dorian lost in 1993/1995 and Ronnie dominated in 2001 it shows you people are clueless and your opinions are out of touch with how judges pick & choose the superior physique based on a set of criteria . your opinion are coupled with faulty logic and pathetically weak arguments so when push comes to shove I just laugh at you idiots not for being ignorant but for being to proud to admit you're wrong.
now run along boy-Neo I
own you and your master says " Go play "
