1999 British GP

[Hulkster]

goddamn ronnie is fucking unbelievable...

as you can see, the pics certainly shead light on the topic of dorian vs ronnie.

and dorian loses by a wide margin.

and the nuthuggers just can't stand it..

[NarcissisticDeity]

bullshit.

you guys will pull any excuse out your ass to avoid the reality of the visuals upon which this sport is based...

dorian gets owned and you can't stand it.

so try and sweep it all under the carpet and pretend it means nothing.

which is pathetic and stupid.

and about the best admission of defeat that you can possibly come up with.

meltdown lol

someone who is there and you're telling them they're wrong textbook meltdown lol

Hulkster = emo

[NarcissisticDeity]

as you can see, the pics certainly shead light on the topic of dorian vs ronnie.

and dorian loses by a wide margin.

and the nuthuggers just can't stand it..

lmfao Dorian loses by a wide margin my ass , spoken like a true fan-boy post one pic and says WOW he's owned 

Sorry slick you see what you want to see

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol stop using pics?

the fact that dorian is so far inferior is really eating you guys up isn't it?

you have to beg us not to post the visuals because dorian gets owned so fucking badly..

sorry, but Ronnie has no mercy:

Again typical Hulkster when an eyewitness crushes his bullshit he cries lol thats all you have left kid , excuses and tears lol


mmmmm continue with the meltdown

[England_1]

This is seriously one of the most incredible shots I've ever seen. Damn.

[candidizzle]

This is seriously one of the most incredible shots I've ever seen. Damn.

dude the comparison pic hulkster put up with ronnie's MM is just absolutely owning dorian..

[bigbobs]

dude the comparison pic hulkster put up with ronnie's MM is just absolutely owning dorian..

Agree, and here's a direct ownage of that shot of Dorian's onstage, when Nasser was still about 15 lbs smaller than his prime.

[England_1]

Ownage my ass. Dorian is standing at least 5-10 feet further back than Nasser. Just look at the thickness of Dorian's chest! The crowd ROARED when Dorian hit that shot.

[candidizzle]

can somebody post comparison pictures from any single mr.o where dorian is teh clear winner??

[bigbobs]

Ownage my ass. Dorian is standing at least 5-10 feet further back than Nasser. Just look at the thickness of Dorian's chest! The crowd ROARED when Dorian hit that shot.

Yes, that's why their head, hands, etc.are the same size?   

[NarcissisticDeity]

can somebody post comparison pictures from any single mr.o where dorian is teh clear winner??

spoken like a true fan-boy lol

[candidizzle]

spoken like a true fan-boy lol

can you? seriously

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yes, that's why their head, hands, etc.are the same size?   

Dorian is standing further back but its not like that makes a difference Dorian crushes him anyway .

[NarcissisticDeity]

can you? seriously

the fact you don't think Yates is clearly winning shows your bias/ignorance which is ok but again you're a fan-boy with statements like that

[candidizzle]

the fact you don't think Yates is clearly winning shows your bias/ignorance which is ok but again you're a fan-boy with statements like that

i cant recall a mr. o where he wasnt rivaled by one of the following = nasser, shawn, levrone...  please put up some pics if youve got a year where he deserved the sandow

[NeoSeminole]

You've done nothing as usual , you haven't answered any of the questions I've asked you just keep repeating your same lame ' arguments ' you think if you type the same nonsense over and over it means you're right and you're not

pathetic lie to avoid responding to my post. I'll give you a few examples where I addressed your false accussations and countered your arguments.

- I didn't answer your question with a question like you claimed
- you lied about the majority of the quotes referring to Ronnie's number of wins
- you unsucessfully tried to argue that "best ever" means best on that given day
- you tried to discredit Team Flex (and failed)
- you conveniently avoided my question regarding Ronnie's ability to judge contests
- I dismantled your ad populum argument in response to Paul Dillet's comment

again you bore me and you're not worth the effort , and keep playing follow the leader I rested on my laurels eons ago when I stop posting in the truce thread now you're trying to save face and claiming the same lol you can't rest on your laurels hence why you keep following me from thread to thread trying to even the score lol still haven't learned have you?

refer to above.

[NarcissisticDeity]

i cant recall a mr. o where he wasnt rivaled by one of the following = nasser, shawn, levrone...  please put up some pics if youve got a year where he deserved the sandow

The fact you think he had rivals again shows how little you know about competitive bodybuilding it really does , Yates dominated bodybuilding which means he didn't have any rivals

[candidizzle]

The fact you think he had rivals again shows how little you know about competitive bodybuilding it really does , Yates dominated bodybuilding which means he didn't have any rivals

how so?  any argument concerning aethetics and shape yates is no doubt going to be on the short end of the stick. sure, he was always grainy, and he always had the best back on stage while he was competing. but that doesnt necessarily mean he should be the champ. when people are killing you from the front, and much more aesthetic, just as conditioned, and the only thing you got on them is a back... why should you win?

[NarcissisticDeity]

pathetic lie to avoid responding to my post. I'll give you a few examples where I addressed your false accussations and countered your arguments.

- I didn't answer your question with a question like you claimed
- you lied about the majority of the quotes referring to Ronnie's number of wins
- you unsucessfully tried to argue that "best ever" means best on that given day
- you tried to discredit Team Flex (and failed)
- you conveniently avoided my question regarding Ronnie's ability to judge contests
- I dismantled your ad populum argument in response to Paul Dillet's comment

refer to above.

I've addressed every one of those time & time again you're full of shit period ! you have no argument at all you keeping posting thinking that proves you're right and then you post some nonsense how you can now rest on your laurels LMMFAO no you can't for a damn good reason you keep trying to prove to ME you're right  I don't have to prove anything to you hence why I don't post in the truce thread anymore and you guys are so pissed I can do what you can't you now have been reduced to following ME around trying to prove to ME you're right.

You copy how I type , my tag lines you style you're very much a follower to my leader and the best part is you still don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding    again you bore and you type in circles you lack any challenge and I've said many times previously you're lucky I'm even responding to you , well your luck has run out   

run along and play now Neo

[NarcissisticDeity]

how so?  any argument concerning aethetics and shape yates is no doubt going to be on the short end of the stick. sure, he was always grainy, and he always had the best back on stage while he was competing. but that doesnt necessarily mean he should be the champ. when people are killing you from the front, and much more aesthetic, just as conditioned, and the only thing you got on them is a back... why should you win?

Dorian NEVER won because of aesthetics that means dick , maybe to you it does but in reality it means zero , Yates beat among the most aesthetic bodybuilders of all time , you're high if you think Coleman is aesthetic to boot

please learn that all rounds are physique rounds what that means is every single part of the criteria is assessed in every single pose , so while you think Dorian is getting killed from the front he's not and why? because he meets the criteria better than his contemporaries hence why is recieved straight firsts in almost every single Olympia contest he won

judges look for muscular bulk , density & dryness , balance & proportion , posing & presentation in every single pose from every single angle and although some competitors beat Yates in PART of the criteria all rounds are physique rounds and that means Dorian beats all of his contemporaries in ALL of the criteria as a whole.

[candidizzle]

aethetics, in general, is everything.  aesthetics takes into account shape symetry size definiton conditioning muscle maturity...aesthetics is the overall look of the body...

dorian had mass and he had grainyness... other than that he had nothing

his body was ugly, plain nd simple. mr olympia should not have an ugly physqiue.



ronnie coleman was VERY aesthetic  when hitting the poses ever year except 2004, 2006, and 2007... every other year when he hit the poses he had the big x frame and all the right curves cuts had the the look...    gut distension does not = poor aesthetics...sorry..

[bigbobs]

Question:  Why is it that Dorian takes the most heat for getting gift-titles of all former Mr. Olympia winners?  ND and England_1 seriously think that is just the result of fan-boys, bias/ignorant people, etc.?     How come no one argues that half or more of Ronnie's wins were gifts and can back it up with pictures?  Same for Haney, any Mr. Olympia winner?  Dorian is the only one can be adequately questioned over half or more than half of his wins.

[England_1]

aethetics, in general, is everything.  aesthetics takes into account shape symetry size definiton conditioning muscle maturity...aesthetics is the overall look of the body...

dorian had mass and he had grainyness... other than that he had nothing

his body was ugly, plain nd simple. mr olympia should not have an ugly physqiue.



ronnie coleman was VERY aesthetic  when hitting the poses ever year except 2004, 2006, and 2007... every other year when he hit the poses he had the big x frame and all the right curves cuts had the the look...    gut distension does not = poor aesthetics...sorry..

Ronnie was not aesthetic LMFAO. Aesthetic was Flex Wheeler, and it didn't help him one bit. Mr. Olympia is the best combination of mass and conditioning. Flex never had that, Kevin never had it, and never did Shawn Ray. No one could really compare to Dorian in both aspects combined.

[candidizzle]

watch this video

this should clear up any confusion

[England_1]

Flex is aesthetic. Ronnie was not.