BREAKING: Amanda Savell's family announces plans to SUE Jacobs' family

[G o a t b o y]

The motivation to sue isn't necessarily one of greed.  It has something to do with the Son of Sam statutes that prevents criminals and their beneficiaries from profiting from their crime.  So if the Jacobs' family wanted to write a book, publish personal photographs, collaborate on an hbo movie special etc... they couldn't keep the money. Under the statutes, the liability does extend to family members, I think. In high profile cases it's done as an effort to retain dignity for the victim. 

I think you're wrong about that.  Under our system of justice you cannot hold an innocent third party responsible for someone else's misdeeds, civilly or criminally.  Being related by blood to the criminal doesn't change that fact.  Trying to apply "son of sam" laws to the writings of third parties who had no hand in the crime would never pass muster under the First Amendment.  If Dave wrote a manuscript before he died, it would be part of his estate, and SOS would apply, but if Dave's family wanted to write a book on their own there's nothing stopping them, since they had nothing to do with the crime.

[Kegdrainer]

here's another scenario...what if she shot him in the guts, then he took the gun from her, shot her a bunch of times, and then shot himself in the head?

Maybe they shot each other.

[The Ugly]

Maybe he shot her - but she's really HIM! His Tyler Durden. Suicide by default. 

I am Jack's inquisitive Law and Order rerun junkie.

[Tre]

I know...but someone posted that guys in his position usually don't have any....I interpreted that as same as guys who are single....didn't calculate his misdeeds...so sorry !

I should've said 'single with kids'.

My life insurance is set up with my child as the beneficiary and my sister as the trustee. 

The wife wants to be the beneficiary.

Needless to say, she's out of her fucking mind.

[Tre]

The motivation to sue isn't necessarily one of greed.  It has something to do with the Son of Sam statutes that prevents criminals and their beneficiaries from profiting from their crime.  So if the Jacobs' family wanted to write a book, publish personal photographs, collaborate on an hbo movie special etc... they couldn't keep the money. Under the statutes, the liability does extend to family members, I think. In high profile cases it's done as an effort to retain dignity for the victim. 

Doesn't matter.

Any schmuck on GetBig or Musclephone can sell their version of events...Mrs. E gonna sue 'em all?

[Tre]

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Either the press is twisting things, or a spokesperson might be an idea here. Things are not coming across well.

Are you saying that this poor, grieving mother doesn't sound very sympathetic at all? 

[drkaje]

I should've said 'single with kids'.

My life insurance is set up with my child as the beneficiary and my sister as the trustee. 

The wife wants to be the beneficiary.

Needless to say, she's out of her fucking mind.

Trust issues?

[Quickerblade]

Its sad to say but there both dead, we can talk all we can who shot who, why he had a bullet in his stomach, why she was still with him blah blah, life goes on for us.

Pray for there families hopefully they get over this asap, but can we get back to our lives.

[Special Ed]

As pointed out, if Jacobs is found to be liable for her death, his estate, including the equity in his home, equity in his 2007 Escalade, and other property could be sold to satisfy a judgement against his estate. The filing of a suit will be considered a claim against the estate and with appropriate legal action will stay distribution of his estate to his heirs (parents) until the wrongful death claim is resolved.

This has nothing to do with greed. Assuming that Jacobs had a mortgage and a car loan, it is very possible that attorney's fees could outweigh the value of the estate on an hourly basis.

On the other hand, if Jacobs somehow had paid his home and car off and the estate is worth in excess of $250,000, an attorney would take the case on contingency. However, in that event, Jacobs's heirs would probably fight the case to protect their claim to the estate proceeds.

Any way you look at it, it's a terrible tragedy and messy aftermath. Filing a wrongful death suit is befitting the initial stage of grief, which is anger.

[Dballn247]

Didn't read the whole thread but this is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.  Was Jacob's a minor?  How could his family be held responsible for their son's actions?  Wake up ppl.  The lengths ppl will go to for a quick buck?  Amanda's family will turn out to be a two time loser, the loss of their daughter and the money lost for filing such a dumbshit suit.  They will be lucky if a counter suit is not filed in which they will lose more money and possibly their home.

[Quickerblade]

Didn't read the whole thread but this is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.  Was Jacob's a minor?  How could his family be held responsible for their son's actions?  Wake up ppl.  The lengths ppl will go to for a quick buck?  Amanda's family will turn out to be a two time loser, the loss of their daughter and the money lost for filing such a dumbshit suit.  They will be lucky if a counter suit is not filed in which they will lose more money and possibly their home.

stupidity at its finest, he obviously has no capital, like special ED said, the lawyers are the only ones sure to make $$$$..emotions are high now, it should simmer down and logic should kick in...suing someones family, fuck thats stupid!

[Tre]

Filing a wrongful death suit is befitting the initial stage of grief, which is anger.

The issue is not that they intend to sue his not-so-valuable estate.

The issue is that they made this announcement before their daughter was even in the ground.  I readily acknowledge that we all grieve differently, but that's bullshit. 

Then the next statement out of the mother's mouth is her insistence that there is a difference between figure competitors and female bodybuilders...as if it's the rest of us who are stupid.

[G o a t b o y]

As pointed out, if Jacobs is found to be liable for her death, his estate, including the equity in his home, equity in his 2007 Escalade, and other property could be sold to satisfy a judgement against his estate. The filing of a suit will be considered a claim against the estate and with appropriate legal action will stay distribution of his estate to his heirs (parents) until the wrongful death claim is resolved.

This has nothing to do with greed. Assuming that Jacobs had a mortgage and a car loan, it is very possible that attorney's fees could outweigh the value of the estate on an hourly basis.

On the other hand, if Jacobs somehow had paid his home and car off and the estate is worth in excess of $250,000, an attorney would take the case on 

Hmmmmmmm..... seems like you've given this a lot of thought!  Right down to looking at the assets and valuing the potential against hourly legal fees and evaluating contingency potential.  You wouldn't happen to be shopping your services, would you? 

[Tre]

LOL @ Goat

If Jacobs estate turns out to be worth more than $250,000 (after all current creditors have been paid), then I'll be a monkey's uncle.  Hold on, wait...

[TechnoViking]

As pointed out, if Jacobs is found to be liable for her death, his estate, including the equity in his home, equity in his 2007 Escalade, and other property could be sold to satisfy a judgement against his estate. The filing of a suit will be considered a claim against the estate and with appropriate legal action will stay distribution of his estate to his heirs (parents) until the wrongful death claim is resolved.

This has nothing to do with greed. Assuming that Jacobs had a mortgage and a car loan, it is very possible that attorney's fees could outweigh the value of the estate on an hourly basis.

On the other hand, if Jacobs somehow had paid his home and car off and the estate is worth in excess of $250,000, an attorney would take the case on contingency. However, in that event, Jacobs's heirs would probably fight the case to protect their claim to the estate proceeds.

Any way you look at it, it's a terrible tragedy and messy aftermath. Filing a wrongful death suit is befitting the initial stage of grief, which is anger.

Special Ed...What if Dave was on Disibility for mental illness? And although not a dependent of the Jacobs family but one of them were writing checks and what not for him to live off...Would the Jacobs family or the person in charge of Dave's "checkbook" be held accountable for him at all?

[Tre]

Special Ed...What if Dave was on Disibility for mental illness? And although not a dependent of the Jacobs family but one of them were writing checks and what not for him to live off...Would the Jacobs family or the person in charge of Dave's "checkbook" be held accountable for him at all?

No, holding Power of Attorney - which is different from a guardianship - does not in any way make that person liable for the actions of anyone. 

[toolarge4u]

i love how its all poor her blah blah blah, she was in the life style spending all that drug money, doing all those same drugs and rec drugs as well and yet shes a vicitim. Give me a fuckin break, she could have easily gotten out whenever she wanted. She rode the satan train and got burnt....period.

[Quickerblade]

i love how its all poor her blah blah blah, she was in the life style spending all that drug money, doing all those same drugs and rec drugs as well and yet shes a vicitim. Give me a fuckin break, she could have easily gotten out whenever she wanted. She rode the satan train and got burnt....period.

satan train??