Second largest air force in the world?

[240 is Back]

The largest aerial force in the world belongs to, of course, the US Air Force.

What body has the second largest aerial force in the world?

[Arnold jr]

My guess would be Israel

[CQ]

Israel yes.

China is working on it, improving quality and training.

[240 is Back]

No.

[CQ]

No.

Really who? Russia, India?

I asked my dad [my personal google lol] and he said in terms of striking power Israel.

We have zero so knock us out

[240 is Back]

The largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Air Force.

The second-largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Navy.

[CQ]

The largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Air Force.

The second-largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Navy.

Yes, somehow I knew you would say that once I realized your wording of 'body'. I don't really separate them in my little brain. Same nation.

Shows the importance of heart and guerrilla style warfare, as one would assume they should have taken Iraq in like 6 days really.

[headhuntersix]

We did...if u have nothing to bomb then 5 million planes become worthless. If u can't carpet bomb eveything, then it really does not matter. If we bomb Iran and then choose not to occupy that country, we win. If we have to roll in, we loose or things become very difficult.  They know full well that as long as they play their games we won't doa thing. But should we have to bomb them and decide to do the grand tour of to do the Iran there will be nothing left militarily. I don't think we're going in. I think Israel might. I think we better find a plan to ensure the Straight of Hormuz stays open.  Gas prices will spike. But we don't get a huge amount of oil from Iran. China does....

[youandme]

guerrilla style warfare

It has absolutely nothing to do with guerilla tactics

Those planes save lives, in hundreds of cuntries each day rogue leaders take control, and starve children and women, we simply send a laser guided bomb their way deploy a plane and he's gone, and a real leader is back in charge.

[headhuntersix]

I would invite some of u drive by military experts to look at what the Russians did in Chechny. During the first invasion they tried to play it like the Western way of war..soft, limited collateral damage..media friendly. They got their asses handed to them. The second time..they bounced the media..broke out ww2 flamethrowers and the kid gloves came off. We could do that. We could fuel-air bomb teheran...the 82nd and 101st could seize the oil fields after a VX nerve strike. Sure could do all of that...but we won't. Please don't mistake the war in Iraq for what the US military is capable of. We're playing with our hands tied behind our backs...and we're winning.

[240 is Back]

We could fuel-air bomb teheran...the 82nd and 101st could seize the oil fields after a VX nerve strike.

How do you think that would affect gas prices here?

My guess is, we'd have bombed iran already (remember the giant border rampup in mar 07 when they didn't slaughter the uk soldiers we dropped in their lap?).... now our economy is so fragile, we can't afford the disruption that'll come with bombing them.

[headhuntersix]

Oil prices will spike...no doubt about it. Oil has spiked on what israel said last week.

[Slapper]

Oil prices will spike...no doubt about it. Oil has spiked on what israel said last week.

Source: Very deep in HH6's ass.

[OzmO]

The largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Air Force.

The second-largest aerial force in the world belongs to the US Navy.

Show us a link please.

I'm skeptical.   China or Russia have less planes than the US navy?

[headhuntersix]

I would have to look it up...the US army has more ships then the Navy.  I would also have to say did they do it one for one..or what generation. The Russians don't throw anything away.

[Arnold jr]

Show us a link please.

I'm skeptical.   China or Russia have less planes than the US navy?

I've heard this about China for years. Its always been said and known that they have an amazingly large force in terms of numbers, it's simply their inability to move them, i.e. ships and planes that makes them less powerfull then they could be militarily.

[240 is Back]

I heard it on MSNBC this morning, Morning Joe. 

I guess it could be a lie, but I doubt it.

[CQ]

I've heard this about China for years. Its always been said and known that they have an amazingly large force in terms of numbers, it's simply their inability to move them, i.e. ships and planes that makes them less powerfull then they could be militarily.

Yes, China has almost 3 million trrops - but are said to be sucky, but improving. They are increasing their planes/ships numbers.

I guess it could be a lie, but I doubt it.

No, it is true. I had read that before myself.

[24KT]

The largest aerial force in the world belongs to, of course, the US Air Force.

What body has the second largest aerial force in the world?

I'm beginning to think it's Ontario.  These darned mosquitos are really beginning to piss me off.   

[headhuntersix]

Yes, China has almost 3 million trrops - but are said to be sucky, but improving. They are increasing their planes/ships numbers.

No, it is true. I had read that before myself.

They are trying for a blue water navy....they have some decent subs etc. China has put money into things/programs that can offset what we're good at. They have good anti-ship missiles. They have good cyber-warfare capabilities.  They are trying to level the playing field in any short war with the US navy over Taiwan. If we lost one carrier, it would be about the same as losing all the guys we've lost in Iraq, in about 20 minutes. Nobody has sunk a US carrier in 50plus years. Nobody has tried to gain complete air superority over a battlefield since Korea.

[Deicide]

They are trying for a blue water navy....they have some decent subs etc. China has put money into things/programs that can offset what we're good at. They have good anti-ship missiles. They have good cyber-warfare capabilities.  They are trying to level the playing field in any short war with the US navy over Taiwan. If we lost one carrier, it would be about the same as losing all the guys we've lost in Iraq, in about 20 minutes. Nobody has sunk a US carrier in 50plus years. Nobody has tried to gain complete air superority over a battlefield since Korea.

War over Taiwan....oh boy....

[CQ]

They are trying for a blue water navy....they have some decent subs etc. China has put money into things/programs that can offset what we're good at. They have good anti-ship missiles. They have good cyber-warfare capabilities.  They are trying to level the playing field in any short war with the US navy over Taiwan. If we lost one carrier, it would be about the same as losing all the guys we've lost in Iraq, in about 20 minutes. Nobody has sunk a US carrier in 50plus years. Nobody has tried to gain complete air superority over a battlefield since Korea.

Thanks HH6, very interesting.

Is any potential conflict highly unlikely and China is just prepping for the worst in case, or slightly feasible it might occur?

[headhuntersix]

Well its worst case...but without getting into anything, we train for the this senario all the time, actually in frightening detail. They know it as well. But I think China is content to make money. Now if the oil is cut off and natural resources dry up...there will be war. Not any time soon...but it can happen. I'd say highly unlikely for the next 20 years.

[loco]

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[Tre]

China pwns us...it's by grace that we're not speaking Mandarin already. 

The Navy has always had and always will have the best fighter pilots in the world...until we start exporting our best video games.