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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2008, 04:05:55 PM »
he's not talking about what people are doing in something he's not involved in,he's talking about what people are doing in something he IS involved in and that's where your denial hits the wall...

he IS part of the group he's referencing,and when you're part of the group you're referencing that "you" turns into an "I"....

basically the only way that interview could be percieved as him not using gear is if he flat out denied it...which he did'nt

"Perceived" is your key phrase there....

I don't have to deny anything...I'm going by what I heard..and that was Jay talking in a general sense, and in third person.

Believe whatever you want, I'm dealing with fact.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2008, 04:07:19 PM »

                                                    Have you seen my baseball?


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we get it ::)
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2008, 04:07:40 PM »
Hey Chick just like that Namat guy plenty of IFBB Pros talk about their Illegal Drug use it's nothing new just like Jay says you do what you got to do to be the best and as long as the IFBB don't Fukin Drug test we can do what the Fuk we want with Drugs.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .This is why other sports people don't openly talk about their Drug Use.Can you imagine NFL guys talking it up like JAY did.NO ::)

Testing is not the solution. Designer steroids, short ester products,masking agents and lots of other stuff make drug tests look like childsplay.




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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2008, 04:10:11 PM »
first time i seen it...thanks.

will harris saying he had 25inch guns ::) i think he is a good bber..but why lie?
LOL. Even Phil Heath probably doesn't have 25" guns at least not contest time.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2008, 04:12:05 PM »
"Perceived" is your key phrase there....

I don't have to deny anything...I'm going by what I heard..and that was Jay talking in a general sense, and in third person.

Believe whatever you want, I'm dealing with fact.
           And what Fact would that be?That another IFBB Pro talks openly about their Drug use.Seems to be a FACT with a lot of IFBB Pros.So what are we to believe Chick that Jay doesn't use Banned Substances is that what you would have us believe.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2008, 04:15:57 PM »
           And what Fact would that be?That another IFBB Pro talks openly about their Drug use.Seems to be a FACT with a lot of IFBB Pros.So what are we to believe Chick that Jay doesn't use Banned Substances is that what you would have us believe.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.

You can believe anything you wish... I don't have to have you believe anything, Jay made the comments.


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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2008, 04:17:12 PM »
When something is so obvious why does anybody need to spell it out? Look at these  people and ask yourself is it necessary that they admit to using steroids, etc? Is it necessary to ask Ronnie Coleman if he eats more than the average recreational weight lifter?
Why should Cutler, Chick or anyone else for that matter divulge a private matter? These people do not owe anyone else an explanation or a confession. It's their lives and their decisions and it's frankly nobody else's business.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2008, 04:19:41 PM »
Nice point sort of like a Junkie he says he doesn't use Esp to the Cops. ::)

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2008, 04:23:50 PM »



I think Chick's laughing out loud right now and taking you all for a ride  ;D
just not good enough

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2008, 04:29:12 PM »
There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?

Bob Chick, do you still deny having taken illegal steroids to build your body?

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2008, 04:31:33 PM »


I think Chick's laughing out loud right now and taking you all for a ride  ;D
              Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2008, 04:33:24 PM »
if you are so indifferent, then why are you lying (yet again) on Jay's behalf? Is that another one of your duties? to pretend Mr. Olympia is drug free

You can believe anything you wish... I don't have to have you believe anything, Jay made the comments.



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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2008, 04:34:12 PM »
Jay Cutler is a smart person.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2008, 04:35:28 PM »
if you are so indifferent, then why are you lying (yet again) on Jay's behalf? Is that another one of your duties? to pretend Mr. Olympia is drug free

             Don't ask the HARD questions Please.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2008, 04:39:32 PM »
              Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.

well, then there's also the Christian situation,
with him getting fired for being so open.

 A LOT of room for law suits right about now, so it actually IS IMPORTANT that JAY did not come right out and admit using illegal drugs.
just not good enough

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2008, 04:44:58 PM »
There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
C'mon Chic, he actually says " I have that edge and that is why I am the best" at the end of the interview.
The edge he refered to was steroids which he said was part of bodybuilding.
This is pretty clear and I suspect you realize that.
Jay is a good guy and I admire him, I just think it was a mistake to be that candid in the current steroid witch hunts by congress.



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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2008, 04:46:44 PM »
damn steroids are really a big part of your life arent they....
::)

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2008, 04:49:46 PM »
Each and everyday there are plenty of reasons for Law Suits against the IFBB.Most Pros don't want to rock the boat.Just think of how much illegal drug use goes on with Pros 6 weeks out from a show.FFS how many of these guys end up in hospital getting abscess cut from a bad shot. Fuk even Milos spent time dying from a bad Synthol shot but yet Nothing is done about it.Seems like it doesn't go on.Or Chick would have most believe it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2008, 04:50:07 PM »
              Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.
The fact that a ro has to risk breaking the drug laws just to compete is wacky on so many levels to me.
1. Why does anyone care what some big musclehead puts in their body
2. Why does the bodybuilding fan base think that a 300 lb freak is better than a 220 lb freak with better lines?
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2008, 04:51:43 PM »
Each and everyday there are plenty of reasons for Law Suits against the IFBB.Most Pros don't want to rock the boat.Just think of how much illegal drug use goes on with Pros 6 weeks out from a show.FFS how many of these guys end up in hospital getting abscess cut from a bad shot. Fuk even Milos spent time dying from a bad Synthol shot but yet Nothing is done about it.Seems like it doesn't go on.Or Chick would have most believe it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
THANK YOU!
The issue is tight thre in your post. It is not the issue of drugs used to get ready for a show, but the extreme amount and all the other wacky stuff they do.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2008, 05:26:25 PM »
People Die and others Deal Drugs and Kill people and it all still just goes on.IFBB are not held accountable for anything Pros do. I think it's in their Rule Book somewhere that all Drug use by the individual is done at his or her own Risk.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2008, 05:27:49 PM »
C'mon Chic, he actually says " I have that edge and that is why I am the best" at the end of the interview.
The edge he refered to was steroids which he said was part of bodybuilding.
This is pretty clear and I suspect you realize that.
Jay is a good guy and I admire him, I just think it was a mistake to be that candid in the current steroid witch hunts by congress.




I disagree...assuming everyone uses (which he alleges)...what "edge" would that be? Makes no sense...

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2008, 05:28:59 PM »
I disagree...assuming everyone uses (which he alleges)...what "edge" would that be? Makes no sense...
;D

good point!
just not good enough

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2008, 05:29:35 PM »
Stupid is as Stupid does. ::)

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2008, 05:39:59 PM »
There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?

He said there are steroids in bodybuilding, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best. A lot of people would take that like he takes steroids.   ;)