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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2008, 09:10:14 PM »
Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2008, 01:17:27 AM »
At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use."  Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids.  I agree.  However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much.  If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C.  Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C.  He left that for us to say.  We are able to extrapolate it.  So technically we are saying it.  I believe this is what's causing the confusion:  If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it?  If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion?    Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up.  Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true).   Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it". 

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2008, 01:24:47 AM »
At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use."  Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids.  I agree.  However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much.  If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C.  Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C.  He left that for us to say.  We are able to extrapolate it.  So technically we are saying it.  I believe this is what's causing the confusion:  If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it?  If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion?    Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up.  Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true).   Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it". 

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2008, 01:34:41 AM »
10 posts in 3 years!!!  :o

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2008, 01:51:04 AM »
who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either  ;D

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #130 on: June 11, 2008, 02:42:46 AM »
who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either  ;D

lol @ "isn't admitting".  Looks familiar, but I cannot put a name to the face.  Perhaps Lift or T knows.
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #131 on: June 11, 2008, 06:57:29 AM »
There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?



Would he be Lying if he admitted it, Chick
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #132 on: June 11, 2008, 07:01:11 AM »

awesome post...very relevant.

Now please post the quote from the clip where he admits to it?



Come on Chick, you know better than that. We don't need no more Clarification from Cutler. This isn't news to some
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2008, 07:06:29 AM »

i agree. he may not have alot of personality but he does seem to sound somewhat intelligent..alot better than ronnie if you ask me
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2008, 07:11:16 AM »
It's Really Moronic for anybody to defend Steroids uses in Pro Bodybuilding. it's laughable beyond control that some in the "know it all area" would come on here to bullshit us....come the fck on.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #135 on: June 11, 2008, 08:04:12 AM »
Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #136 on: June 11, 2008, 08:45:19 AM »
Chick - Don't even bother to look both ways when you cross the street. Cause there could be a Mac Truck comnig right at you and you wouldn't see it!

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2008, 08:46:59 AM »
At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use."  Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids.  I agree.  However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much.  If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C.  Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C.  He left that for us to say.  We are able to extrapolate it.  So technically we are saying it.  I believe this is what's causing the confusion:  If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it?  If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion?    Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up.  Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true).   Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it". 

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #138 on: June 11, 2008, 08:53:14 AM »
who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either  ;D

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #139 on: June 11, 2008, 08:55:00 AM »

If the jay says the edge=steroids, and jay says he has the edge.......
You're a moron if you can't figure it out.

Taking things literally all the time Chick?
I think not.

You cherry pick what you want to hear.
that is not healthy my friend.
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #140 on: June 11, 2008, 09:11:01 AM »
If the jay says the edge=steroids, and jay says he has the edge.......
You're a moron if you can't figure it out.

Taking things literally all the time Chick?
I think not.

You cherry pick what you want to hear.
that is not healthy my friend.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??

Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #141 on: June 11, 2008, 12:21:54 PM »
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??

Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????

It sure does.  I'm done with this converstion.
You're acting like a polotician.
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #142 on: June 11, 2008, 12:28:44 PM »
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??

Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????

Bob,

You might be better off not to address this topic.  You lose credibility when you defend what Jay said.  If Jay disagrees with people saying he admitted it, let Jay come on here and post.  Or, jay can put out a statement.  Or, Jay can ignore it.

You, defending Jay when, to most of us here, he just admitted using, well, it insults our intelligence. 

Jay made a choice to sit in front of a camera and smirk about his 'edge', he obviously had his reasons.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #143 on: June 11, 2008, 12:32:16 PM »
What sets apart Jay from the rest and gives him an "EDGE" is that not only does he use steroids year round, but he uses way more shit than conventional steroids in order to attain that "EDGE".  Throw in your usual Test, Diuretics, but also add Insulin, GH and maybe a few more things we don't speak of too often..

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #144 on: June 11, 2008, 01:05:08 PM »
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #145 on: June 11, 2008, 01:08:02 PM »
just not good enough

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #146 on: June 11, 2008, 03:27:24 PM »
I don't usually agree with Chick, but I agree that Jay is doing a delicate tapdance around the truth and not admitting anything. I'd chalk that up to Jay's substantial experience answering that question and his fine-tuned, lawyerly response that makes no admission of illegal use but doesn't deny the implication. Such an answer allows him to be seen as truthful but intelligent. Savvy PR training at its best.
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #147 on: June 11, 2008, 03:29:48 PM »
I don't usually agree with Chick, but I agree that Jay is doing a delicate tapdance around the truth and not admitting anything. I'd chalk that up to Jay's substantial experience answering that question and his fine-tuned, lawyerly response that makes no admission of illegal use but doesn't deny the implication. Such an answer allows him to be seen as truthful but intelligent. Savvy PR training at its best.

Bingo.

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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #148 on: June 11, 2008, 03:31:06 PM »
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Re: Cutler admitting steroid usage
« Reply #149 on: June 11, 2008, 03:38:59 PM »
Bingo^2

Hypotheticaly, 240.....if Jay were taking those items listed, do you believe he has an "edge" over the competition?