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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11005.html

The Obama campaign and Democratic leaders accused Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) of being confused and heartless after he told NBC’s “Today” show Wednesday that it’s “not too important” when U.S. troops return from Iraq.

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said on a quickly organized Obama conference call that McCain’s comment was “unbelievably out of touch with the needs and concerns of most Americans,” saying that to families of troops in harm’s way, “To them, it's the most important thing in the world.”

Kerry claimed “an enormous, fundamental flaw in his candidacy for the presidency, which supposedly has hung on his strength as commander in chief and his understanding of foreign policy.”

Susan Rice, an Obama foreign-policy adviser, accused McCain of “a real disturbing, even disconcerting, pattern of confusing the basic facts and reality that pertain to Iraq.”

The “Today” show statement, which McCain went on to explain, is damaging because Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has pledged to immediately begin withdrawing combat troops.

McCain, trying to mitigate the fallout from his January remarks that U.S. troops might be in Iraq for 100 years, predicted last month that “most” troops would be home by the end of his first term.

Trying to take the offense, McCain’s campaign posted a YouTube clip of the exchange.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said: “The Obama campaign is embarking on a false attack on John McCain to hide their own candidate’s willingness to disregard facts on the ground in pursuit of withdrawal no matter what the costs. John McCain was asked if he had a ‘better estimate’ for a timeline for withdrawal.

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“As John McCain has always said, that is not as important as conditions on the ground and the recommendations of commanders in the field. Any reasonable person who reads the full transcript would see this and reject the Obama campaign’s attempt to manipulate, twist and distort the truth.”

The exchange that has Democrats licking their chops began when co-host Matt Lauer asked about the surge strategy in Iraq: “If it's working Senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?”

McCain replied: “No, but that's not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq, Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That’s all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw; we will be able to withdraw. General [David] Petraeus is going to tell us in July when he thinks we are.

“But the key to it is that we don't want any more Americans in harm's way. That way, they will be safe, and serve our country and come home with honor and victory, not in defeat, which is what Senator Obama's proposal would have done. I’m proud of them. And they're doing a great job. And we are succeeding and it's fascinating that Senator Obama still doesn't realize that.”

Kerry, saying McCain is “really having a debate with himself” on Iraq, said the “Today” show comment was part of a “policy for staying in Iraq” and “underscores … the broad array of contradictions in John McCain’s statements about Iraq.”

“It is really becoming more crystal clear to a lot of Iraq that John McCain simply doesn’t understand it – that he confuses who Iran is training, he confuses what the makeup of al-Qaeda is, he confuses the history … of what has happened between Sunni and Shia and how deep that current runs,” Kerry said.

Rice criticized “real confusion and lack of understanding of the situation in Iraq and, indeed, the larger region, that John McCain evidenced yet again in his comments on the ‘Today’ show.”

Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was first out of the gate with a statement, calling McCain’s comment “a crystal clear indicator that he just doesn’t get the grave national-security consequences of staying the course. … We need a smart change in strategy to make America more secure, not a commitment to indefinitely keep our troops in an intractable civil war.”

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said McCain had “displayed a fundamental misunderstanding about the situation in Iraq, our strained military, and American troops and their families.”



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If it's working Senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?”

McCain replied: “No, but that's not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq, Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That’s all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw; we will be able to withdraw. General [David] Petraeus is going to tell us in July when he thinks we are.

Pretty clear to me what he ment.
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I agree.  He wasn't saying it's not too important when troops come back from deployments.

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If it's working Senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq?”

McCain replied: “No, but that's not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq, Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That’s all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw; we will be able to withdraw. General [David] Petraeus is going to tell us in July when he thinks we are.

Pretty clear to me what he ment.


It's pretty clear to the rest of us that McCain doesn't has a clue on areas he should be much better informed about.
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What didn't he know....hey what do u care ur not even American. Maybe Obama should know that there are only 50 states
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It's pretty clear to the rest of us that McCain doesn't has a clue on areas he should be much better informed about.
kinda like obama's socialist utopia...and his oil company profit tax....hahahah

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McCain doesn't have an email account.  He thinks his staff members are "running a google" on potential veep candidates.

he's sounding more and more out of it each day.  In 2000, he was a sharp man who would have kicked ass as President.  A maverick, who didn't fold and change positions.  Today he is a shell of his 2000 form, I don't think anyone here can deny this.

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We'll rename it Fuzzy bunny land.
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What didn't he know....hey what do u care ur not even American. Maybe Obama should know that there are only 50 states

What he didn't know was the answer to the question posed to him. He dismissed it as not important.
It's extremely important. it's like Buzz Aldrin once said about going to the moon.

There are really two things you ought to know:
1) How to get there    2) How to get back

If you don't have #2 figured out, ...you sure as heck should not even contemplate #1

As for why I care, ...that's been asked and answered already adnauseum.
Are you simply too shell shocked to keep up?   ...sides' why are you even talking about McCain?
You should be knee deep in your I hate Obama rhetoric shouldn't you?  :-*
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Because this will be spun as McCains' to old or whatever other Lib bs u idiots can find. He answered the fucking question u dingbat...he said security and stability over a time table....time tables allow the enemy to know what ur doing and that makes them better at killing u...but since Obama has ZERO experience at this..he'll just pull a BDE out a month..because u can do that..one per month ::)
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We'll rename it Fuzzy bunny land.



Life is great in fuzzy bunny land!  Our cars run on carrrots not $4.oo a gallon gas.
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Muslims are happy little bearded guys who pass out gum drops....everybody holds hands ad plays nice with each other. That is until the red,white and blue ogre shits in his hand and flings it at people.
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McCain doesn't have an email account.  He thinks his staff members are "running a google" on potential veep candidates.

he's sounding more and more out of it each day.

Quote was "it's a google" actually which is worse :-\

Read a piece that expressed concern as 'google' is a term tossed around so much for years one should pick it up without trying - but he was unable to.

A leader unable to send an email and admits he is computer illiterate  is concerning to many. Shows a lack of interest, willingness to settle, non interest in progression etc -  as computers and email are really more an everyday thing and usual to all.

Also, is embarrassing tbh. Pissy banana republic presidents are able to use a computer, as are 8 year olds.

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Yeah..i guess..not too bad. I'm so thrilled with these guys.
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That is until the red,white and blue ogre shits in his hand and flings it at people.

I notice he's been doing that alot lately, ...what gives?
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I agree.  He wasn't saying it's not too important when troops come back from deployments.

Oh no!   Base on his body language and tonality he was certainly saying the troops weren't important.   ;D

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Because this will be spun as McCains' to old or whatever other Lib bs u idiots can find. He answered the fucking question u dingbat...he said security and stability over a time table....time tables allow the enemy to know what ur doing and that makes them better at killing u...but since Obama has ZERO experience at this..he'll just pull a BDE out a month..because u can do that..one per month ::)

Like Obama saying Iran is "No threat" when he said "not as great of a threat."


Same candy ass BS only now it's on your pandering whore.   ;D

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Mccain just lost some military vote.

On May 15 of this year, he promised they'd be home by 2013.

Today he said it's not important when they get home, as long as they're safe.

if I was in the military, and Obama said I'd be home in a year, and mccain says it's not important when I get home... which guy do I vote for?

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Oh no!   Base on his body language and tonality he was certainly saying the troops weren't important.   ;D

lol.  What body language?   :)  I don't see a comparison.  I think if McCain would have said shortening the length of deployments is "not too important," that would be bad.  But this?  Molehill. 

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lol.  What body language?   :)  I don't see a comparison.  I think if McCain would have said shortening the length of deployments is "not too important," that would be bad.  But this?  Molehill. 

The bias attitudes are the same on both sides.  that's the comparison. that's the candy ass part.

Obama didn't say "no threat" and McCain didn't mean the troops weren't important.


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Mccain just lost some military vote.

On May 15 of this year, he promised they'd be home by 2013.

Today he said it's not important when they get home, as long as they're safe.

if I was in the military, and Obama said I'd be home in a year, and mccain says it's not important when I get home... which guy do I vote for?


Well I'm in the military, and I'm voting for McCain, unless Bothcandidates suck runs....
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Well I'm in the military, and I'm voting for McCain, unless Bothcandidates suck runs....
yeah, but you're an idiot so you don't matter  :D

Moron McCain compares Iraq to Korea and Germany, when the country is still in a state of disarray. He is attempting to take us from A to Z without explaining how he will get us to Z. Makes no sense unless you can explain how/when Iraq will become a peaceful democracy where America can maintain permanent military bases like McCain is describing.
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Please explain comrade Obama's plan..oh and do so in detail as pulling 1BDE per month is not even possible...and not  a plan.
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Please explain comrade Obama's plan..oh and do so in detail as pulling 1BDE per month is not even possible...and not  a plan.
You're Russian now?   :P

Pulling out the troops is not a plan? News to me...

If a plan is so important, why are you voting for McCain when his "plan" is more of the same? How is McCain going to get most of the troops out by 2013 without pulling out any brigades?  ::)
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U can withdraw from iraq in 5 years...u can't withdraw a BDE a month and begone in 6 months...its physically impossible.
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