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And we think they hate us why?
« on: June 12, 2008, 09:18:42 AM »
America's generosity unmatched
by Star Parker

Americans are hearing so much these days about how bad we are that we're starting to believe it.

In a recent Gallup poll, 68 percent said they are "dissatisfied with the position of the United States in the world today," and 55 percent said they think that the rest of the world views us unfavorably.

However, as I page through a publication called the Index of Global Philanthropy, which is produced annually by the Center for Global Prosperity at the Hudson Institute in Washington, it becomes obvious that these American feelings of self-deprecation are misguided.
 
This is the just released third annual edition of this index. It produces a unique snapshot portraying the full extent of American generosity to developing countries, by amount and by source.
 
Usually when the question of aid to the developing world arises, we think of government funds. But this index shows that, whereas it may be the rule in the rest of the industrialized world that most aid is government aid, in our country this isn't the case. Most of the contributions that Americans make abroad are private and voluntary. And they are large.
 
In 2006, the latest year for which data is available, the index reports that Americans contributed privately and voluntarily $34.8 billion to individuals and organizations in developing countries.
 
Philanthropy is distinct from government aid in that it originates with private citizens and is voluntary, but also the recipients are private individuals and organizations, as opposed to governments. Private to private versus government to government.
 
The $34.8 billion in philanthropy from private Americans exceeded the $23.5 billion in official U.S. government aid abroad by $11.3 billion, or 48 percent.
 
This private philanthropy is flowing from foundations, corporations, private and voluntary organizations, universities and colleges, and religious organizations.
 
Of particular interest in this year's index is the $8.8 billion reported from religious organizations. According to Carol Adelman, who directs this work, the data was produced by commissioning "the first national survey of congregational giving to the developing world" ever done.
 
The average contribution of congregations was $10,700.
 
To put this in some kind of perspective, the $8.8 billion in giving from American religious institutions to developing countries was $1.5 billion more than the total giving from all private sources in 30 of the world's major industrialized democratic countries combined.
 
When consolidating all assistance funds flowing from the United States to developing countries, the total is $129.8 billion. This is the total of government aid, philanthropy, and remittances -- funds sent directly by private individuals to other private parties in developing countries, often family members. A far second in total giving behind the United States is the United Kingdom at $20.7 billion.
 
There are a couple of important messages here.
 
First, of course, is the incredible compassion and generosity of Americans. American largesse does not need to be pried or forced by the government. It flows organically from free, civic-minded and often religiously motivated citizens. And it comes from citizens of every income strata. The religious giving data shows that whereas the average congregation gives $10,700, the median number is $2,500, indicating that there are many smaller, less wealthy congregations engaged.
 
The other headline is the central importance of the private sector in both generating prosperity, but also in sharing it.
 
Bookshelves now strain with studies showing the failures of government-to-government aid.
 
It is individuals who create wealth. Compassion and personal responsibility reside in the breasts of those same individuals. Neither can be said of government bureaucracies.
 
Barack Obama spoke at the commencement ceremony at Wesleyan University the other day. He talked about national service and, recalling John F. Kennedy, committed to doubling the size of the Peace Corps if elected president.
 
From what I see and what the data shows, Americans don't need government to make them care, contribute, and volunteer. If anything, they need less government so they'll retain and keep control of more of what they produce and subsequently share with those in need.
 
Other countries may have their own motivations for what causes them to view Americans the way they do. But the data is clear. Americans are unmatched in creating prosperity and sharing it.
 
It's time to pay closer attention to what Americans do rather than what others say.

 
Star Parker (parker@urbancure.org) is president of CURE, Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education and author of three books.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 09:29:02 AM »
yea man its great how we spend so much of our taxpayers $ on other places,while our homeless rates rise along with our national debt.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 09:30:39 AM »
Raise your hand if you support the US giving billions of $ away to other nations each year.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 09:38:15 AM »
Raise your hand if you support the US giving billions of $ away to other nations each year.
Private citizens (where most of the giving is coming from) can do what they want with their money.  Are you saying you want the government to tell us where we should spend our money?

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 09:40:51 AM »
I think that article has good points, and the US indeniable does a lot of good in the world. Only error many make is thinking the US goes around giving aid to like all 220 nations, and also neglects to see that many other nations give aid as well. Many nations receive no US aid, and give aid to poor places also. At the risk of sounding "we are the worldish" - when disasters like the Tsanami hits most the world that can afford it pulls together and rallies to support very quickly. We spend so much time looking at the negatives of world affairs, we forget there is much good.

That said, if I was American, I too would much prefer more focus on the homefront.

Private citizens (where most of the giving is coming from) can do what they want with their money.  Are you saying you want the government to tell us where we should spend our money?

I think it's great. On very, very poor island here, that I worked on for a while, some return tourists use to come with books and pens etc for the local schools. A small gesture to many, for kids that have never had their own pencil before - huge.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 09:48:05 AM »
Private citizens (where most of the giving is coming from) can do what they want with their money.  Are you saying you want the government to tell us where we should spend our money?

I could care less if they give their $ to Africa of flush it.  It's their money.

However, the US does give a big pile of money to other countries each year.  We give Columbia $99 million a year just to guard our oil pipeline there.  Little things like that add up.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 09:49:48 AM »
There's a big difference between hating a people, ...and hating their government.

Most of the world LOVE the American people, ...it's your government's policies they detest.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 09:55:12 AM »
There's a big difference between hating a people, ...and hating their government.

Most of the world LOVE the American people, ...it's your government's policies they detest.

Exactly. The goverment is not indicative of the people. Something everyone worldwide should recall when assessing others. I am no fan of the US foreign policy, but have zero issues with the people. In fact, I married one :D

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 10:05:28 AM »
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And we think they hate us why?

Because we treat everyone elses national resources as our own.

Because we invade other countries, kill their leaders, kill the people and co-op the national resources.

Because we are free.  They hate our freedoms.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 10:08:00 AM »

Because we treat everyone elses national resources as our own.

Because we invade other countries, kill their leaders, kill the people and co-op the national resources.

Because we are free.  They hate our freedoms.

Decker, ...you know I have nothing but love for you right...

but for goodness sakes man, when you quote someone, please leave the original poster's name intact.
This way we can at least know which worthless, ignorant POS you're responding to without endless scrolling.

Thanks.

...carry on.  :)
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 10:13:43 AM »
Decker, ...you know I have nothing but love for you right...

but for goodness sakes man, when you quote someone, please leave the original poster's name intact.
This way we can at least know which worthless, ignorant POS you're responding to without endless scrolling.

Thanks.

...carry on.  :)
The quote is the title of the thread.  I imagine Colossus wrote it b/c he gleaned that opinion from the article he posted.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2008, 10:19:37 AM »

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The quote is the title of the thread.  I imagine Colossus wrote it b/c he gleaned that opinion from the article he posted.

Thank You. I knew you'd get the hang of it sooner or later.  :D
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2008, 12:36:53 PM »
Why do I have to cite an obvious source.  It's the title of the thread.

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2008, 01:53:56 PM »
Why do I have to cite an obvious source.  It's the title of the thread.

Oh puleaze Deccker, ...like I read thread titles?  ::) My eyes can barely focus right now. Just a straw that broke the camel's back. Everytime I see a quote without a reference from whom it came, I end up scrolling endlessly to discover which imbecile or genius (as the case may be) wrote it. I couldn't find the sentence. Don't mind me... I'm just frustrated. I went to bed at 7am this morning, ...only to be woken up before 9 by ...a bloody network marketer of all things! Gotta love the irony.   I've known this woman since 1992, ...she ought to know better than to call me before noon! <grrr> ...and over chocolate too. Like I'm really gonna get excited about chocolate... maybe to eat it, ...but to sell it, ...when I can market fuel catalysts that increase mileage and save people money on their fuel costs... maybe even get their fuel for free... in this day & age... in these economic times? Surely she must be mad! Then one of my fleet maintenance consultants called from Quebec, ...and I've not been able to get back to sleep.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2008, 05:42:39 PM »
AHAHHAhahhahaha... Jag has lost her last marble :D

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2008, 01:25:26 AM »
AHAHHAhahhahaha... Jag has lost her last marble :D

She's too bored being rich and spending 18 hours a day in front of the computer screen...with nothing else to do, no work to speak of, only the fabulous products that she gets rich off, she was bound to go crazy.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2008, 07:04:22 AM »
Raise your hand if you support the US giving billions of $ away to other nations each year.

we dont give that $ for free....the govt is not stupid (sans the current one)

dont for a second believe we dont get something in return...

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2008, 07:13:04 AM »
I went to bed at 7am this morning, ...only to be woken up before 9 by ...a bloody network marketer of all things!

Damn

Sooo umm how was it it? The date and all sounds like it ended with a bang (no pun intended)

You go Jag

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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2008, 10:02:15 AM »
There's a big difference between hating a people, ...and hating their government.

Most of the world LOVE the American people, ...it's your government's policies they detest.
Heck, Jag.  Name a country who doesn't hate (or at least consistently complain) about their own government.  Most of the posts that I see  are rather personal in nature. 


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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2008, 05:40:44 PM »
Heck, Jag.  Name a country who doesn't hate (or at least consistently complain) about their own government.  Most of the posts that I see  are rather personal in nature. 


ahem, ...well, there's CQ's country. The nation of Tibet (when refering to their leader the Dalai Lama)
and there's fuzzy bunny land.

oh ya, and Canada (before Stephen Harper)


BTW: You say this as if all the sentiment felt about your government is felt towards other govs universally.
I assure you it's not. Your government holds a very ... um... special place in the hearts of world citizens.  :P

...but a vote for Obama might change all that.  :)
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2008, 05:42:36 PM »
yea man its great how we spend so much of our taxpayers $ on other places,while our homeless rates rise along with our national debt.

Glad you agree with the topic of the original poster.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2008, 05:43:11 PM »
Raise your hand if you support the US giving billions of $ away to other nations each year.

I don't but you are missing the point of the original poster.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 05:44:16 PM »
Private citizens (where most of the giving is coming from) can do what they want with their money.  Are you saying you want the government to tell us where we should spend our money?

Nice....Democrats love when the Government tells them how to spend their money.
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2008, 05:48:35 PM »
There's a big difference between hating a people, ...and hating their government.

Most of the world LOVE the American people, ...it's your government's policies they detest.

Ridicules.... the government is made from people of America.  They are one in the same, it's either you are an ignorant fool for hating Americans or smart enough to know you don't even know 1% of them to make such an idiotic generalization...you decide
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Re: And we think they hate us why?
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2008, 07:21:27 PM »
ahem, ...well, there's CQ's country. The nation of Tibet (when refering to their leader the Dalai Lama)
and there's fuzzy bunny land.

oh ya, and Canada (before Stephen Harper)


BTW: You say this as if all the sentiment felt about your government is felt towards other govs universally.
I assure you it's not. Your government holds a very ... um... special place in the hearts of world citizens.  :P

...but a vote for Obama might change all that.  :)



Please name another country that has brought more freedom, spent more of its own taxpayers money abroad, shipped more food..or done more in the last 250 plus years for other countries....I apologize because Canada doesn't matter.
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