yeaaaaaah...god is great!

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5907717134484382986&q=pakistani+beggar&ei=Y7BSSKDDNaWCrAKNp9i8DA


children beggars in pakistan

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=136060935378223061&q=children+looking+through+trash&ei=XbFSSIDHNZWgqgKHkPXEDA&hl=en

children searching thru trash

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5980004064883202702&q=amputee+beggar+&ei=nbFSSMeyBYWyrgKdm-ysDA


child beggar begging for food in india!

[Butterbean]

Toxy, do you think any specific people have any responsibility in these situations?


Also, maybe God brought these to your attention for a specific reason and gave you a heart and resources to help them!

[ToxicAvenger]

Toxy, do you think any specific people have any responsibility in these situations?

well most of those are in muslim countries but most muslims r hypocrites and dont actually follow the koran..if they actually did we'd have lesser extremists (ideally)

a certain % of every muslims income is supposed to go to charity....which they conveniently forget to do..even the ones that pray 5 times/day

Also, maybe God brought these to your attention for a specific reason and gave you a heart and resources to help them!

i do give anywhere between $50-to a $100 to a homeless guy that sometimes mops the floor at the gasstation for a few extra bucks, every paycheck..

i really should sign up for the christians children fund...they seem legit and its a good cause..

[Nordic Superman]

Just to make ProteinFarts' points more factual:

There would be less extemists because the world would be under islamic rule. If every muslim followed the koran the world would be an ugly place.

Muslims would wish want death to apostates, women would require 4 witnesses to a mans one witness, etc etc.

Also note the donations to charity must be a ISLAMIC charity for this to be fulfilled.

ProtainFart's, care to refute this?

[ToxicAvenger]

ProtainFart's, care to refute this?

you actually think i'm gonna bother explain myself to YOU??

lol 

[Nordic Superman]

you actually think i'm gonna bother explain myself to YOU??

lol 

Not explain yourself, explain this phantom version of islam you're promoting.

Again, on your high horse, unable to provide any rebuttals, must be a muslim trait haider does the same.

[ToxicAvenger]

Not explain yourself, explain this phantom version of islam you're promoting.

before i explain islam on your behalf to the world MY PHANTOM prove to me you r not some irate poor black dood that is just happy about "thankgod someone else is enemy # 1 now"


you CANT


for a fucktard that asks for proof...you sure dont provide jack shit

[Nordic Superman]

before i explain islam on your behalf to the world MY PHANTOM prove to me you r not some irate poor black dood that is just happy about "thankgod someone else is enemy # 1 now"

you CANT

for a fucktard that asks for proof...you sure dont provide jack shit

This is seriously a STUPID response.

Is this all you've got? Continually skirting answering the difficult questions and when pressed you crumble to this?

Jeez...

[Deicide]

Toxy, do you think any specific people have any responsibility in these situations?


Also, maybe God brought these to your attention for a specific reason and gave you a heart and resources to help them!

Maybe you're supposed to help them.

[ToxicAvenger]

This is seriously a STUPID response.

Is this all you've got? Continually skirting answering the difficult questions and when pressed you crumble to this?

Jeez...

i dont skirt jack shit...

i just consider you too stupid to learn from me so i dont bother 

[drkaje]

Screw those homeless people!!! Give that money to me for beer!!

[ToxicAvenger]

Screw those homeless people!!! Give that money to me for beer!!

lmao doc...soon enough you'll have more beer money than u can spend!

except u wont have time to drink!

[Nordic Superman]

i dont skirt jack shit...

i just consider you too stupid to learn from me so i dont bother 

What about everyone else?

Prove to them that my facts are "false", I'm sure there's someone on here intelligent enough to understand what you say.

Oh, and may I point out the irony of you calling ANYONE stupid?

Still cannot refute my points, still a jihadist sympathiser.

[ToxicAvenger]

What about everyone else?

Prove to them that my facts are "false", I'm sure there's someone on here intelligent enough to understand what you say.

Oh, and may I point out the irony of you calling ANYONE stupid?

Still cannot refute my points, still a jihadist sympathiser.

nordic bitch melts again!

[Nordic Superman]

nordic bitch melts again!

OK

Still can't see a rebuttal.

STella, are you a big enough person to question ProteinFarts' truthfulness on the topic of islam? Why do you think he doesn't provide a rebuttal to my assertions?

[Butterbean]

Maybe you're supposed to help them.

No, I don't think so.  Maybe you?

OK

Still can't see a rebuttal.

STella, are you a big enough person to question ProteinFarts' truthfulness on the topic of islam? Why do you think he doesn't provide a rebuttal to my assertions?

I could be wrong about the following but.....

I don't think he purposely is untruthful about Islam but maybe it's possible he may not be that familiar w/teachings from the Koran (neither am I) but he may think "real Islam (and not extreme)" is OK because his parents are Muslim and they seem to love and respect each other and others and are wonderful people with a good relationship.

Toxy has said several times he is atheist and not Muslim but I think he may defend Islam at times because in a way he could feel he is indirectly defending his loved ones.

Of course it's possible I could be completely incorrect!

[Nordic Superman]

Right, but can you explain to me his incapacity to be told what is factual about islam (not extremist islam) and take it on board?

Why is he unwilling to accept truths which are facts?

P.S. get some bottle and stop being nicey nicey with your responses

[Butterbean]

Right, but can you explain to me his incapacity to be told what is factual about islam (not extremist islam) and take it on board?

Why is he unwilling to accept truths which are facts?

I don't usually read your and Toxy's posts back and forth so I don't know if when you state what is in the Koran are you stating the "book and verse (for lack of knowing what the Koranic terms would be)?"  Maybe if you stated the Sura or whatever it is you could both address it objectively?

P.S. get some bottle and stop being nicey nicey with your responses

Nicey nicey is part of my STella ruse 

[Nordic Superman]

Death for apostasy, and women needing four "reliable and truthful" muslim witnesses is fact. Under what objective state do you think that FACT is justified?

[Butterbean]

Death for apostasy, and women needing four "reliable and truthful" muslim witnesses is fact. Under what objective state do you think that FACT is justified?

No I mean you should post the "book" and "verse" or whatever they are called...then he can see what is actually written there and you two can discuss it objectively.

For instance if I say hey the bible says we are saved because of what Christ did for us and we can't "do" any works to get to heaven I would back it up like this:

Ephesians 2:8,9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

[Nordic Superman]

See koran 24:4 and 24:13.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=541486

24.4 And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, (giving) eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,

24.13 Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.

[Butterbean]

That's what I meant!

Hey Nordic, does the Koran come in any other "versions?"

For instance the bible can be read in different versions such as King James, New King James, New International Version, New American Standard, The Living Bible (a paraphase) etc. 

Some can be more difficult or easier to read/understand.

[haider]

See koran 24:4 and 24:13.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=541486

what do these verses say Nordic?