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"Ten years ago I could never have imagined I'd be doing this," says Greg Pal, 33, a former software executive, as he squints into the late afternoon Californian sun. "I mean, this is essentially agriculture, right? But the people I talk to — especially the ones coming out of business school — this is the one hot area everyone wants to get into."

He means bugs. To be more precise: the genetic alteration of bugs — very, very small bacteria — so that when they feed on agricultural waste such as wood chips or wheat straw, they do something extraordinary. They excrete crude oil.

Unbelievably, this is not science fiction. Pal holds up a small beaker of bug excretion that could, theoretically, be poured into the tank of the giant Lexus SUV next to us.

Not that Pal is willing to risk it just yet. He gives it a month before the first vehicle is filled up on what he calls "renewable petroleum." After that, he grins, "it's a brave new world."

Pal is a senior director of LS9, one of several companies in or near Silicon Valley that have spurned traditional high-tech activities such as software and networking and embarked instead on an extraordinary race to make $140-a-barrel oil from Saudi Arabia obsolete.

"All of us here — everyone in this company and in this industry — are aware of the urgency," Pal says.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 07:27:47 PM »
10 years from now when we're off oil and those raghead pricks are starving, I don't want to hear any bitching. I'm sorry they can't drink oil and eat sand..they can kill each other.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 07:29:37 PM »
"Ten years ago I could never have imagined I'd be doing this," says Greg Pal, 33, a former software executive, as he squints into the late afternoon Californian sun. "I mean, this is essentially agriculture, right? But the people I talk to — especially the ones coming out of business school — this is the one hot area everyone wants to get into."

He means bugs. To be more precise: the genetic alteration of bugs — very, very small bacteria — so that when they feed on agricultural waste such as wood chips or wheat straw, they do something extraordinary. They excrete crude oil.

Unbelievably, this is not science fiction. Pal holds up a small beaker of bug excretion that could, theoretically, be poured into the tank of the giant Lexus SUV next to us.

Not that Pal is willing to risk it just yet. He gives it a month before the first vehicle is filled up on what he calls "renewable petroleum." After that, he grins, "it's a brave new world."

Pal is a senior director of LS9, one of several companies in or near Silicon Valley that have spurned traditional high-tech activities such as software and networking and embarked instead on an extraordinary race to make $140-a-barrel oil from Saudi Arabia obsolete.

"All of us here — everyone in this company and in this industry — are aware of the urgency," Pal says.


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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 07:42:07 PM »
10 years from now when we're off oil and those raghead pricks are starving, I don't want to hear any bitching. I'm sorry they can't drink oil and eat sand..they can kill each other.

Hahaha, that's a dream one can only wish for. Can you imagine what the Middle East would be like if that happened? HA!

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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 07:46:51 PM »
10 years from now when we're off oil and those raghead pricks are starving, I don't want to hear any bitching. I'm sorry they can't drink oil and eat sand..they can kill each other.

Hey, I actually agree with you here. I have always wanted to leave them to kill each other and I am quite serious.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 07:47:53 PM »
Oh I can't wait....the damm libs would be screaming for us to go in and feed em. Sorry assholes..u idiots didn't know u can't grow food in sand.

We're in the way, Israel is in the way..they really just want to smoke each other.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 07:49:48 PM »
Should build a gigantic wall around the middle east and set up bookies in each country to take bets on who comes out of the battle royale. I'd be inclined to bet Egypt heavily, myself.

This bug concept is pretty interesting. Can it be produced on a massive scale at a cost-effective price? I would think that in a few years it would be. Very promising.

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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2008, 07:55:36 PM »
I like the wall thing..I think u just tell the Jews they have to move to parts of the western US or Canada....hell we could give em a chunk of south America....the the arabs can have at it.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 07:57:26 PM »
I like the wall thing..I think u just tell the Jews they have to move to parts of the western US or Canada....hell we could give em a chunk of south America....the the arabs can have at it.

Parts of Brazil have a gigantic Jewish population. They could move down there and help build that country into an economic powerhouse. It's got the potential.

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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 07:58:06 PM »
and the rest of the article that HH6 left out


...What is most remarkable about what they are doing is that instead of trying to reengineer the global economy – as is required, for example, for the use of hydrogen fuel – they are trying to make a product that is interchangeable with oil. The company claims that this “Oil 2.0” will not only be renewable but also carbon negative – meaning that the carbon it emits will be less than that sucked from the atmosphere by the raw materials from which it is made.

LS9 has already convinced one oil industry veteran of its plan: Bob Walsh, 50, who now serves as the firm’s president after a 26-year career at Shell, most recently running European supply operations in London. “How many times in your life do you get the opportunity to grow a multi-billion-dollar company?” he asks. It is a bold statement from a man who works in a glorified cubicle in a San Francisco industrial estate for a company that describes itself as being “prerevenue”.

Inside LS9’s cluttered laboratory – funded by $20 million of start-up capital from investors including Vinod Khosla, the Indian-American entrepreneur who co-founded Sun Micro-systems – Mr Pal explains that LS9’s bugs are single-cell organisms, each a fraction of a billionth the size of an ant. They start out as industrial yeast or nonpathogenic strains of E. coli, but LS9 modifies them by custom-de-signing their DNA. “Five to seven years ago, that process would have taken months and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,” he says. “Now it can take weeks and cost maybe $20,000.”

Because crude oil (which can be refined into other products, such as petroleum or jet fuel) is only a few molecular stages removed from the fatty acids normally excreted by yeast or E. coli during fermentation, it does not take much fiddling to get the desired result.

For fermentation to take place you need raw material, or feedstock, as it is known in the biofuels industry. Anything will do as long as it can be broken down into sugars, with the byproduct ideally burnt to produce electricity to run the plant.

The company is not interested in using corn as feedstock, given the much-publicised problems created by using food crops for fuel, such as the tortilla inflation that recently caused food riots in Mexico City. Instead, different types of agricultural waste will be used according to whatever makes sense for the local climate and economy: wheat straw in California, for example, or woodchips in the South.

Using genetically modified bugs for fermentation is essentially the same as using natural bacteria to produce ethanol, although the energy-intensive final process of distillation is virtually eliminated because the bugs excrete a substance that is almost pump-ready.

The closest that LS9 has come to mass production is a 1,000-litre fermenting machine, which looks like a large stainless-steel jar, next to a wardrobe-sized computer connected by a tangle of cables and tubes. It has not yet been plugged in. The machine produces the equivalent of one barrel a week and takes up 40 sq ft of floor space.

However, to substitute America’s weekly oil consumption of 143 million barrels, you would need a facility that covered about 205 square miles, an area roughly the size of Chicago.

That is the main problem: although LS9 can produce its bug fuel in laboratory beakers, it has no idea whether it will be able produce the same results on a nationwide or even global scale.

“Our plan is to have a demonstration-scale plant operational by 2010 and, in parallel, we’ll be working on the design and construction of a commercial-scale facility to open in 2011,” says Mr Pal, adding that if LS9 used Brazilian sugar cane as its feedstock, its fuel would probably cost about $50 a barrel.

Are Americans ready to be putting genetically modified bug excretion in their cars? “It’s not the same as with food,” Mr Pal says. “We’re putting these bacteria in a very isolated container: their entire universe is in that tank. When we’re done with them, they’re destroyed.”

Besides, he says, there is greater good being served. “I have two children, and climate change is something that they are going to face. The energy crisis is something that they are going to face. We have a collective responsibility to do this.”

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Genetic engineering of live organisms? Just what we need, ...more profit motivated corporations tinkering around with genetic modification. LOVELY!!  :-\

It sounded real good to me when I thought this was a natural process of this beetle, but having seen the results of previous attempts at GM, ...I'm a little leery. time will tell though.

i hope this doesn't turn into a scene from some bad 50's horror flick. ...a C list version of arachnophobia.

Beetlephobia
           ...coming soon to a theatre near you

plot synopsis:

a secret experiment gone awry threatens America. It started out in a lab in Palo Alto innocently enough. Then one day, one of the little critters got loose. No one knew these were experimental beetles... so they called PCO. One taste of those pesticides and the little buggers began to grow... soon... they were everywhere... now America is overrun by giant horrific beetles that squirt diesel fuel out their beeehinds.  :D

As one commenter pointed out... this looks like some of the filthiest diesel fuel I've ever seen


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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2008, 08:00:48 PM »
I like the wall thing..I think u just tell the Jews they have to move to parts of the western US or Canada....hell we could give em a chunk of south America....

Too many ex-nazi's in Brazil!  Come to think of it, ...there are a lot of ex-nazi's in the US & Canada too.
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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2008, 08:01:47 PM »
wow... imagine a bug that could eat garbage and shit oil.  Solve 2 problems at once.

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Re: Scientists Find Microbes That Eat Garbage, Excrete Crude Oil
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2008, 08:02:40 PM »
They're genetically modifying single-celled organisms dumbass. Do you have a problem with that? This isn't the first time it's been done. Insulin is mass-produced the same way, along with thousands of other things.

Like they said, oil is not that far removed from some sugars. It's not rocket science to expect that this couldn't be done.

Maybe you want to argue that single-celled organisms can be fear mongered in the womb?

Either way, it's a start.