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Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:40 AM

The latest ABC News-Washington Post Poll shows that Obama leads McCain nationally by small margin -- 48 percent to 42 percent -- but lurking in the numbers is the data that nearly half say they're not comfortable that Obama has enough experience to be president.

This translates to a large number of doubters.

Among two pivotal swing groups, the rivals split independents evenly, while McCain is ahead among white Catholics.

Strain from the drawn-out Democratic primaries still shows: While nearly nine in 10 Republicans back McCain, just eight in 10 Democrats support Obama. Yet Obama leads McCain in trust to handle most issues asked in the survey, including the top problem — the economy. He also does better on most personal attributes, including better understanding peoples' problems, and is tied with McCain on leadership, an issue on which the Republican led three months ago.

The ABC News-Washington Post poll was conducted from June 12-15 and involved telephone interviews with 1,125 adults. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Poll_obama_experience/2008/06/17/105201.html

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 01:42:35 PM »
Wesley Clark on McCain:

"The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."




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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 01:45:29 PM »
He's not experienced in foreign policy.

Neither was clinton.  neither was Bush.  hell, neither was reagan. 

They all accomplished the goals of their administration... reagan killed communism, Clinton boosted our economy and kept us out of big wars.  Bush2's goal was oil/bases in arabia - it was written by his administration in PNAC before the 00 election - and he's followed it to a tee.

They all did what they set out to do, despite no foreign policy experience.

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 02:26:25 PM »
They were all leaders...Clinton, Reagan and Bush all ran large States. Can anybody point to anything this guy has done...any piece of legislation, anything while a community organizer...anything while on the Law Review at Harvard. He's done nothing. Obama is an invention of the Left wing of the Dem party to feel good about themselves and to avoid 4 years of hil where she would slide to the center like her husband.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 03:43:37 PM »
They were all leaders...Clinton, Reagan and Bush all ran large States. Can anybody point to anything this guy has done...any piece of legislation, anything while a community organizer...anything while on the Law Review at Harvard. He's done nothing. Obama is an invention of the Left wing of the Dem party to feel good about themselves and to avoid 4 years of hil where she would slide to the center like her husband.

In the eyes of the majority of today's polled americans, he is a lesser evil than a man perceived to usher in year 9-12 of the Bush policy.

Sad but true.  The repubs have smugly fed us shit for 7 years.   "So?" Cheney remarked.  "We'll be in iraq if 99% of people are against it" Bush remarked.

The govt is supposed to do the will OF THE PEOPLE, remember?  Bush/Cheney have openly admitted they do what THEY think is right, not the will of the people.


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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 03:47:13 PM »

'Running' Arkansas hardly gives one the experience necessary to become an international ambassador - you've either got it or you don't. 

I feel much better about Obama's experience than I do about McCain's experience. 

The people touting 'experience' right now are the ones who are trying to trick you into forgetting what Washington has done to Americans the past 20 years.

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 03:50:46 PM »
I'm not at all comfortable with McCain mental/emotional stability, his judgement and frankly his intelligence.

The only thing I find remotely appealing about him is the fact that neo-cons hate him.

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 03:52:20 PM »
Ur kidding right..Obama has done nothing..nothing..produc ed zero bills...really had nothting to show for his time in the State or Federal legislatures...no leadership posts...never sevred in the military, never worked in private practice of any kind...never has any record of doing any...I say again any of the things he know promises during his campaign speeches. Hell's he's never walked across the isle to work with Repubs on any real piece of legislature.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 03:54:38 PM »
'Running' Arkansas hardly gives one the experience necessary to become an international ambassador - you've either got it or you don't. 

I feel much better about Obama's experience than I do about McCain's experience. 

The people touting 'experience' right now are the ones who are trying to trick you into forgetting what Washington has done to Americans the past 20 years.

Running Texas doesn't do much for you either.   The lieutenant governor runs the day to day stuff and legislature only meets every odd-numbered year for 140 days.

 


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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 03:57:28 PM »
Sure..and being an organizer doing god knows what qualifies em how..u guys know his resume is weaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 04:05:18 PM »
Here you go HH - yeah it's a cut and paste job but at least I left off the Bush comparison that followed it

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After high school, Obama studied for two years at Occidental College in California and then transferred to Columbia College in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. After receiving his Bachelors of Arts degree in 1983, Obama worked for one year at Business International Corporation. In 1985, he moved to Chicago to direct a non-profit project assisting local churches to organize job training programs for residents of poor neighborhoods.[15][16]
Obama entered Harvard Law School in 1988. In February 1990, he gained national recognition for becoming the first African American to be elected president of the Harvard Law Review.[17][18] He obtained his Juris Doctor degree magna *** laude from Harvard in 1991.[16] On returning to Chicago, Obama directed a voter registration drive, then worked for the civil rights law firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland, and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.
In 1996, Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate from Chicago's 13th District in the south-side neighborhood of Hyde Park. In January 2003, when Democrats regained control of the chamber, he was named chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee.[19] Among his legislative initiatives, Obama helped to author an Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit that provided benefits to lower income families, worked for legislation that would support residents who could not afford health insurance, and helped pass bills to increase funding for AIDS prevention and care programs.
Obama focused his efforts on the state Senate, authoring a law requiring police to videotape interrogations for crimes punishable by the death penalty[8] and supporting legislation that required insurance companies to cover routine mammograms.[23][24] He ran unopposed in 2002.
Reviewing Obama's career in the Illinois Senate, commentators noted his ability to work effectively with both Democrats and Republicans, and to build coalitions.[25][26] In his subsequent campaign for the U.S. Senate, Obama won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose officials cited his "longtime support of gun control measures and his willingness to negotiate compromises," despite his support for some bills that the police union had opposed.[
TIME magazine named him one of "the world's most influential people," listing him among twenty "Leaders and Revolutionaries" for his high-profile entrance to federal politics and his popularity within the Democratic Party.[42] An October 2005 article in the British journal New Statesman listed Obama as one of "10 people who could change the world."[43] During his first two years in the Senate, Obama received Honorary Doctorates of Law from Knox College,[44] University of Massachusetts Boston,[45] Northwestern University,[46] and Xavier University of Louisiana.[47] He is a member of the following Senate committees: Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs.[48]
109th congress
Obama sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427.[50][51] His first bill was the "Higher Education Opportunity through Pell Grant Expansion Act."[52] Entered in fulfillment of a campaign promise, the bill proposed increasing the maximum amount of Pell Grant awards to help needy students pay their college tuitions.[53] The bill did not progress beyond committee and was never voted on by the Senate.
Obama took an active role in the Senate's drive for improved border security and immigration reform. Beginning in 2005, he co-sponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" introduced by Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).[54] Obama later added three amendments to S. 2611, the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act," sponsored by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA).[55][56] S. 2611 passed the Senate in May 2006, but failed to gain majority support in the U.S. House of Representatives.[57] In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act, authorizing construction of fencing and other security improvements along the United States鈥揗exico border.[58] President Bush signed the Secure Fence Act into law in October 2006, calling it "an important step toward immigration reform.
110th congress
During the first two weeks of the Democratic-controlled 110th Congress, Obama sponsored eight bills and resolutions and cosponsored another 28.[66][67] His legislative activities during the current session's first days focused primarily on ethics and energy-related bills.

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 04:05:48 PM »
obama has produced next to nothing - correct.

cheney had more experience than anyone in washington - he used it to work the system to give trillions of bucks to the mil industrial complex.

choose your poison.  we had 7 years of one poison...

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 04:11:55 PM »
Ok look Obama is a muppet..the guy has done nothing..he'lll be a joke to all the people who will do us harm.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 04:13:59 PM »
Ok look Obama is a muppet..the guy has done nothing

agree, agree!

he'lll be a joke to all the people who will do us harm.

Is bush NOT a joke to them?  lol... can't win a war in 6 years, obama is free, we're there for bases, drugs, and oil... we don't care about the people of iraq.

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008, 04:14:09 PM »
Ok look Obama is a muppet..the guy has done nothing..he'lll be a joke to all the people who will do us harm.

yawn.....have you received any new talking points from the RNC yet?

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 04:15:56 PM »
Ok look Obama is a muppet..the guy has done nothing..he'lll be a joke to all the people who will do us harm.

IMO - Bush is the biggest joke of all among people "who want to do us harm" and everyone else on the planet.  Everytime he visits another country he makes a complete ass of himself

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 04:20:23 PM »
Awsome.....the guy and his people are idiots.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2008, 04:30:22 PM »
McCain makes Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar

McCain graduated 894 out of 899 students in his class at the naval academy and was rejected by the U.S. National War College until his family intervened with the Secretary of the Navy

In active service, McCain was, by his lengthy acknowledgement in a commencement address last year, a "discipline problem" of violent disposition and frequent insubordination who came late to the task of proving himself.

McCain lost 5 US Navy aircraft during his time in the military

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down."


http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm

http://www.thestar.com/News/USElection/article/299874






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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2008, 04:34:10 PM »
Thats 20 more hours of service then Barack has ever had....plus his 5 years in a POW camp. My uncle did 2 years as a Grunt with the 1st Cav...I can say without a doubt he'd much prefered where he was at...assine statement.
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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2008, 04:43:48 PM »
Thats 20 more hours of service then Barack has ever had....plus his 5 years in a POW camp. My uncle did 2 years as a Grunt with the 1st Cav...I can say without a doubt he'd much prefered where he was at...assine statement.

How does being tortured and held captive for five years qualify one to be POTUS?




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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2008, 06:10:56 PM »
Thats 20 more hours of service then Barack has ever had....plus his 5 years in a POW camp.

The man graduated bottom of his class, has no other formal education, admits himself the economy is not his strong point, can't use a computer, can't even send a email, flops on the 'family values' area.... But you think 20 hrs of combat is enough be qualified to be President? Thats like 3 days?

By that token, you and thousands more are more qualified...as you know how to use a computer, which he cannot.

HH6 for President >:(

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2008, 06:14:35 PM »
The man graduated bottom of his class, has no other formal education, admits himself the economy is not his strong point, can't use a computer, can't even send a email, flops on the 'family values' area.... But you think 20 hrs of service is enough be qualified to be President? Thats like 3 days?

By that token, you and thousands more are more qualified. You've done more than 20 hrs service - and you know how to use a computer.

HH6 for President >:(

Not to be an asshole, but regardless of where you finish in your class, at the three military academies, every person is very intelligent. There are no dumb schmucks in any of those schools.

Regardless, Obama's track record is pretty atrocious. He's done basically nothing since he was elected. Pushed next to no bills through and has spent most of his time being groomed to run for the Presidency.

Frankly, both choices both suck dick.




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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2008, 06:19:39 PM »
Not to be an asshole, but regardless of where you finish in your class, at the three military academies, every person is very intelligent. There are no dumb schmucks in any of those schools.

Regardless, Obama's track record is pretty atrocious. He's done basically nothing since he was elected. Pushed next to no bills through and has spent most of his time being groomed to run for the Presidency.

Frankly, both choices both suck dick.




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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2008, 06:25:07 PM »
I'll take that chick in your avatar for president or even vp

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Re: Latest Poll: Half Say Not Comfortable With Obama's Experience
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2008, 06:25:32 PM »
Bottom line...people will vote for Obama because he is Black and claims to represent "change".  Ask any one of those idiots what his political stance is (on any issues) and they will tell you he stands for "change".  That's a scary fucking thought.

Both candidates suck but if you couple McCain's experience with someone who will fix this shit economy and dollar then they would be a good team.
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