All drugs

[G o a t b o y]

Levrone's video and Tom Prince's before/after pics say it all.   Anyone (other than Bob) still wanna claim drugs are just a "finishing touch", and not responsible for 90% of these guys' physiques?


Sure you gotta lift weights and sure you gotta have great genetics, but the biggest thing separating a 180-lb gym rat and a 280-lb pro is a whole shitload of AAS, GH, and insulin.

[Jeffro]

Levrone's video and Tom Prince's before/after pics say it all.   Anyone (other than Bob) still wanna claim drugs are just a "finishing touch", and not responsible for 90% of these guys' physiques?


Sure you gotta lift weights and sure you gotta have great genetics, but the biggest thing separating a 180-lb gym rat and a 280-lb pro is a whole shitload of AAS, GH, and insulin.

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[Sarcastic Deity]

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[IronMagazine.com]

Levrone's video and Tom Prince's before/after pics say it all.   Anyone (other than Bob) still wanna claim drugs are just a "finishing touch", and not responsible for 90% of these guys' physiques?

Sure you gotta lift weights and sure you gotta have great genetics, but the biggest thing separating a 180-lb gym rat and a 280-lb pro is a whole shitload of AAS, GH, and insulin.

actually, genetics is really the key, same with most sports, many pro bb's don't train once off drugs, who really gives a shit?

what happens to a pro football player once they retire?

[Jeffro]

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Good post.  Spot on as usual

[G o a t b o y]

actually, genetics is really the key, same with most sports, many pro bb's don't train once off drugs, who really gives a shit?

what happens to a pro football player once they retire?

A guy with great genetics who would be 260 with drugs competes at 190 with no drugs (assuming he's 6' or under).  Stop making excuses for these human science experiments.

[body88]

actually, genetics is really the key, same with most sports, many pro bb's don't train once off drugs, who really gives a shit?

what happens to a pro football player once they retire?

What, genetics to drug response? Currently, pro bb is based on lies and faggotry IMO. The sooner you accept that, the better. The reason Tom Prince and Levrone are tiny now, is because they dont juice. Sure they have great genetics, but without the drugs they are average guys with good genetics. Shit, most retired pros are still juiced to the gills, and that's why they are "big". I see guys in better shape than levrone, that drink all weekend, and eat shit.


Pro football players are usually really banged up from actual atheltic competition, so many have health problems. I think even comparing the two sports - (bb is not a sport), is insanity.

[IronMagazine.com]

A guy with great genetics who would be 260 with drugs competes at 190 with no drugs (assuming he's 6' or under).  Stop making excuses for these human science experiments.

my point being, you cannot look like a Levrone just by taking a shit load of steroids, it takes MUCH more than that, first and foremost the superior genetics.

[IronMagazine.com]

What, genetics to drug response?

ummm...yeah!

Currently, pro bb is based on lies and faggotry IMO.

I have no idea what that means.


The sooner you accept that, the better. The reason Tom Prince and Levrone are tiny now, is because they dont juice. Sure they have great genetics, but without the drugs they are average guys with good genetics. Shit, most retired pros are still juiced to the gills, and that's why they are "big". I see guys in better shape than levrone, that drink all weekend, and eat shit.

ok!

Pro football players are usually really banged up from actual atheltic competition, so many have health problems. I think even comparing the two sports - (bb is not a sport), is insanity.

right, and pro bb's that have used drugs for 15-20 years, competed and trained like animals walk away in perfect health...ok.

 

[IronMagazine.com]

Levrone's video and Tom Prince's before/after pics say it all.   Anyone (other than Bob) still wanna claim drugs are just a "finishing touch", and not responsible for 90% of these guys' physiques?


Sure you gotta lift weights and sure you gotta have great genetics, but the biggest thing separating a 180-lb gym rat and a 280-lb pro is a whole shitload of AAS, GH, and insulin.

why do you post on a bodybuilding board?

[G o a t b o y]

my point being, you cannot look like a Levrone just by taking a shit load of steroids, it takes MUCH more than that, first and foremost the superior genetics.

I never said you could turn a gym rat with crap genetics into a pro by adding drugs.  I said that a pro with good genetics wouldn't look much like a pro without the drugs.  It's not a 5 or 10% difference...  it's night and day.  That guy winning IFBB shows would be lucky to place in a local show if he had his same genetics but no drugs.

[body88]

How did you add your reply in my post without mod stars?

[G o a t b o y]

why do you post on a bodybuilding board?

Because every time I click on the stamp collecting board I get a message that says "hang on tight..."

[G o a t b o y]

How did you add your reply in my post without mod stars?


I don't know.  It's a mystery to me.

[The Coach]

why do you post on a bodybuilding board?

Stupid question. Do you think that someone has to be pro-drugs to post on a BBing board? Levrone retained about 25-30% of what he had. 250 big and ripped to 190 small and fat. Do the math.

[IronMagazine.com]

Stupid question. Do you think that someone has to be pro-drugs to post on a BBing board? Levrone retained about 25-30% of what he had. 250 big and ripped to 190 small and fat. Do the math.

Getbig is a board that is known for attracting pro bb's, is it not? that being the case and the fact the all pro bb's use steroids it seems like the wrong place for a person to post if they are against steroid use, dontcha think?

[G o a t b o y]

Getbig is a board that is known for attracting pro bbb's, is it not? that being the case and the fact the all pro bb's use steroids it seems like the wrong place for a person to post if they are against steroid use, dontcha think?

I'm not against steroid use.  I'm against these guys using the ridiculous amounts and types of chemicals they do to achieve 90% of their results then execting us to consider them "athletes" or making ridiculous claims about how supposedly inconsequential the drugs are to their success.

[IronMagazine.com]

I'm not against steroid use.  I'm against these guys using the ridiculous amounts and types of chemicals they do to achieve 90% of their results then expecting us to consider them "athletes" or making ridiculous claims about how supposedly inconsequential the drugs are to their success.

many pro athletes in many sports use a shitload of drugs, whether it be steroids, anti-inflammatories, pain killers, etc., I don't see your point.

take drugs out of any sport and level the playing field, do you think there will be different pros at the top? same pros in bodybuilding will win, the genetically gifted, they would all just be smaller without the drugs.

[The Coach]

Getbig is a board that is known for attracting pro bbb's, is it not? that being the case and the fact the all pro bb's use steroids it seems like the wrong place for a person to post if they are against steroid use, dontcha think?

Lonnie....it might be known for it, but with the exeption of few, they don't stay. If a person is intrested in BBing but don't want the drugs, why shouldn't he/she post here? Everyone knows that pro's take drugs...duh, but when people say ALL DRUGS...it's true and you of all people know it.

[IronMagazine.com]

Lonnie....it might be known for it, but with the exeption of few, they don't stay. If a person is intrested in BBing but don't want the drugs, why shouldn't he/she post here? Everyone knows that pro's take drugs...duh, but when people say ALL DRUGS...it's true and you of all people know it.

they can and should post here, but what is the point of coming to a bb board and ripping on the sport or those that compete in it? it is what it is, and as far as drugs no different than football and many others...

[G o a t b o y]

I don't see your point.

Ask one of the many non-schmoe posters here to explain it to you.  They all seem to get it.

take drugs out of any sport and level the playing field, do you think there will be different pros at the top? same pros in bodybuilding will win, the genetically gifted, they would all just be way smaller, unbelieveably smaller, an order of magnitude smaller without the drugs, so much so they wouldn't look much different from a typical gym rat.

Fixed. 

And there could indeed be different pros at the top, since some of these guys have an incredible genetic response to drugs, but not very good genetics for natural muscle building.

[IronMagazine.com]

Ask one of the many non-schmoe posters here to explain it to you.  They all seem to get it.

Fixed. 

And there could indeed be different pros at the top, since some of these guys have an incredible genetic response to drugs, but not very good genetics for natural muscle building.

maybe you should go find a natural bodybuilding board to post on.

[G o a t b o y]

maybe you should go find a natural bodybuilding board to post on.

Will I have to stop using AAS before they'll let me post?

[The Coach]

they can and should post here, but what is the point of coming to a bb board and ripping on the sport or those that compete in it? it is what it is, and as far as drugs no different than football and many others...

LOL...what player in Football takes 3000mg of test, GH, Deca, Insulin and whatever else you want to throw in?  Oh oh, I'll answer that.............NONE!

[Jeffro]

why do these people try to defend the pros by saying they are not all drugs?  sure it takes dedication, but the main point is that you must have a genetic response to gear and take lots of it to be successful as a bodybuilder