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Brutal gun debate thread
« on: June 19, 2008, 08:13:30 PM »
Nordic, what are your views on gun control?

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Re: Physics
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 08:40:27 PM »
Pwnd, bitch!



You really want to open this can of worms again?   A vid that "proves" it all.  (roll eyes)  ;D

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Re: Physics
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 09:44:14 PM »
I hate the State.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 02:21:14 AM »
hahaha btural 'attack the messenger, not the message'.

You brits jealous of gun rights?  Come live here.  You will be able to enjoy a God-given right to protect yourself.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 02:27:11 AM »
Wow, I'm convinced! This picture of the author of this thread makes it all the more convincing too!:

And attacking the messenger and not his message makes yours so much more convincing... HOW?
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Re: Physics
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 02:27:49 AM »
hahaha btural 'attack the messenger, not the message'.

You brits jealous of gun rights?  Come live here.  You will be able to enjoy a God-given right to protect yourself.

{lol} Oh poop, I should have scrolled lower.
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Re: Physics
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 02:28:32 AM »
hahaha btural 'attack the messenger, not the message'.

You brits jealous of gun rights?  Come live here.  You will be able to enjoy a God-given right to protect yourself.

I'm lucky enough to live in CA a large portion of the year. Guns don't attract me in any shape or form because I'm not from a trailer park.

I'm not attacking the messenger, I honestly think your "picture" and "statement" really add to your credibility when discussing politics.
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Re: Physics
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 02:30:06 AM »
Nodrick would give his left nut to be able to carry a weapon to defend himself.

I guess he can stick to carrying a roll of quarters in his tightly-clenched fist and hoping he can punch his way out of any situation life gives him.

Epic living in denial.  He complains nonstop that his country is being overrun by muslims, yet he lacks the physical capacity to defend his own home.  I wouldn't take his spot for a million dollars.  brutal attacking me out of envy.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 02:30:28 AM »
And attacking the messenger and not his message makes yours so much more convincing... HOW?

Jag, I'm not expecting a responce to what I am about to say, because continually you never respond to such questions because you are a coward... but here goes...

Do you honestly have an IQ of 160?
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Re: Physics
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 02:32:00 AM »
I'm lucky enough to live in CA a large portion of the year. Guns don't attract me in any shape or form because I'm not from a trailer park.

I'm not attacking the messenger, I honestly think your "picture" and "statement" really add to your credibility when discussing politics.

Yet you lack the ability to attack my argument.  I might be a lot of things.  And on this, I might just be right ;)

Congrats on enjoying the ability to protect yourself part of the time.  Shame you don't embrace this right.  Instead you just *hope* you'll never run into trouble.  You just *hope*.  Make fun of trailer-park peolpe with guns.  One might just save your ass one day.  We both know if someone was capping people in a restaurant, I'd risk my life to save yours, while you sat pissing yourself under a table.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 02:32:38 AM »
Do you honestly have an IQ of 160?

4th instance of 'attack the messenger, not the message' in this thread from nordic.

He's like a newer, cuter version of beach Bum.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 02:33:00 AM »
Nodrick would give his left nut to be able to carry a weapon to defend himself.

I guess he can stick to carrying a roll of quarters in his tightly-clenched fist and hoping he can punch his way out of any situation life gives him.

Epic living in denial.  He complains nonstop that his country is being overrun by muslims, yet he lacks the physical capacity to defend his own home.  I wouldn't take his spot for a million dollars.  brutal attacking me out of envy.

"Nodrick" ???

You're so wrong, and so stupid I honestly find it hard to comprehend your way of thinking.

Never once have I required a gun, and I sincerely don't think guns are the answer to any muslim immigration problem Britain has.

Out of interest, on how many occasions have you had to use/show your gun in heated situations?
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Re: Physics
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 02:36:05 AM »
Yet you lack the ability to attack my argument.  I might be a lot of things.  And on this, I might just be right ;)

Congrats on enjoying the ability to protect yourself part of the time.  Shame you don't embrace this right.  Instead you just *hope* you'll never run into trouble.  You just *hope*.  Make fun of trailer-park peolpe with guns.  One might just save your ass one day.  We both know if someone was capping people in a restaurant, I'd risk my life to save yours, while you sat pissing yourself under a table.

Lack the ability? There's no argument in this thread.

Provide some mathematical evidence (the language of physics, and something I hold a degree in), not some lousy picture.

4th instance of 'attack the messenger, not the message' in this thread from nordic.

He's like a newer, cuter version of beach Bum.

Well, 9/10 she doesn't respond when she gets owned/self owns herself, nor is she a big enough person to accept when she lies or distorts the truth, so I brought it up in this thread.
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Re: Physics
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 02:37:48 AM »
hahaha btural 'attack the messenger, not the message'.

You brits jealous of gun rights?  Come live here.  You will be able to enjoy a God-given right to protect yourself.

Real men protect themself with the fist
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Re: Physics
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 02:39:22 AM »
Real men protect themself with the fist

What a redundant statement.

We both know someone who takes pictures like the above, ISN'T a REAL MAN 8) :o :D
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Re: Physics
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2008, 02:39:37 AM »
Never once have I required a gun, and I sincerely don't think guns are the answer to any muslim immigration problem Britain has.
Out of interest, on how many occasions have you had to use/show your gun in heated situations?

So far.  You made it to your age and haven't yet been the victim of a violent crime.  Stats show every American will face one violent crime in his/her lifetime.  I pray it never happens to either of us.  But when it does, you'll have the option of fistfighting, or praying the attacker just wants your car/wallet, and not your life.  I'll have the option to defend myself with equal force.

I've never pointed my gun at anyone.  At one point, I was quickly pulled up on by two kids (late 20s) who blocked my car in and came at me aggressively.  They never showed a gun and I never showed mine. &guy kept his hands hidden.  I rose to a half-stand and kept my weapon pointed downword while shaking my head no at them.  They stopped exiting the vehicle, shut doors, and sped off.

They were likely going to rob me.  There is no other explanation for blocking someone's car in, getting out with hands below door level, all eyes on me, freezing, getting back in, and speeding off.

You can read this situation any way you wish. I pray it never happens to you.  Because you'd have your cell phone and perhaps an ajar mouth in that situation.  As shit gets worse in this world, more recession-hit folks will resort to crime, making the likelihood that either of us will see a random crime, increase.


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Re: Physics
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2008, 02:41:29 AM »
Real men protect themself with the fist

Correct.

Real men also realize that pieces of shit will attack in gangs, or with weapons.  Real men know the world is a fuct up place, full of people who fight and attack without honor.  I'd LOVE to live in a world of fistfighting only.  But I understand the reality of things.

A lot of real men end up robbed or killed every year as a result of random violence.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2008, 02:47:59 AM »
Good luck with showing your gun when being robbed. That's got to be the best cause of getting shot in such a situation I can think of.

Anyhow, you titled this thread "Physics" and posted a sarcastic picture, no REAL physical science has been explain by you.

I await your clarification.

I'm also waiting for Jag to declare whether stating her IQ as 160 was the truth or a lie, but I fear I might be waiting for eternity for an answer from someone as cowardice as her.
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Re: Physics
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 02:49:53 AM »
Correct.

Real men also realize that pieces of shit will attack in gangs, or with weapons.  Real men know the world is a fuct up place, full of people who fight and attack without honor.  I'd LOVE to live in a world of fistfighting only.  But I understand the reality of things.

A lot of real men end up robbed or killed every year as a result of random violence.

Criminalize all guns and destroy them. only the military should have guns not the police or average Joe and especially  not
the criminals
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Re: Physics
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2008, 02:52:55 AM »
Good luck with showing your gun when being robbed. That's got to be the best cause of getting shot in such a situation I can think of.

This is a mentality I will never understand.

You don't 'show' your gun while being robbed.  You level the playing field to defend yourself.  You use as much force as required to end the forcible felony taking place.  You diffuse the situation however possible, and resort to deadly force if it's the last resort.

"Best cause of getting shot"?  How about some asshole has decided it's his right to take your car, or your life?  He's decided he has the right to take that from you.  He's breaking the law, and you want to just sit there and pray he just takes the car?

You wouldn't let a guy push you off the bench at a gym.  You wouldn't let a guy smack you and take your wallet on the bus.  but you'll sit idly and pray while he decides whether to take your most valuable aset - your life?  I don't get that man.  I'm not flaming here, I'm serious.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2008, 02:55:04 AM »
Criminalize all guns and destroy them. only the military should have guns not the police or average Joe and especially  not
the criminals

Most of the people committing crimes are using illegal guns already.  Most of them have felony records and cannot legally have one anyway.  Their guns are ALREADY criminialized, and they don't five a shit.

You ban them all, and only law-abiding good-guys will give them up.  The criminals will do what they did yesterday, today, and tomorrow.  I've never broken a gun law in my life.  And suddenly you're taking my guns away and letting the little trugs and criminals keep theirs?  Come on...

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Re: Physics
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2008, 02:55:24 AM »
Criminalize all guns and destroy them. only the military should have guns not the police or average Joe and especially  not
the criminals

Especially not people from a trailer park with no formal education.

To phase gun usage out, only people of 120 IQ or above should be allowed them, that will lower usage immensely.

This is a mentality I will never understand.

You don't 'show' your gun while being robbed.  You level the playing field to defend yourself.  You use as much force as required to end the forcible felony taking place.  You diffuse the situation however possible, and resort to deadly force if it's the last resort.

"Best cause of getting shot"?  How about some asshole has decided it's his right to take your car, or your life?  He's decided he has the right to take that from you.  He's breaking the law, and you want to just sit there and pray he just takes the car?

You wouldn't let a guy push you off the bench at a gym.  You wouldn't let a guy smack you and take your wallet on the bus.  but you'll sit idly and pray while he decides whether to take your most valuable aset - your life?  I don't get that man.  I'm not flaming here, I'm serious.

I'm serious, remove the emotion from your backwards way of thinking, then get a formal education beyond that of high school, then come back to me.

You've once been in such a situation, yet talk like a seasoned veteran from the NYPD. Delusional is an understatement.
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Re: Physics
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2008, 02:56:09 AM »
P.S. still waiting to see if you actually have anything to say about "physical science" other than a single lame animated GIF.
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Re: Brutal gun debate thread
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 03:01:41 AM »
Especially not people from a trailer park with no formal education.

I have a masters in business adminstration, a second AS in computer networking, and a pile of industry certifications.   I was repeatedly tested 137 IQ in elementary school (although I agree that IQ is irrelevant and people who argue it are douchebags)  And my concealed permit means I have a crystal clean criminal record.  I jump thru a million hoops to be able to carry.  I had to memorize state law and prove competency with the weapon.

So please stop attacking the messenger.  I"m an educated guy.  I know statistics.  I don't claim to be an expert on guns.  You brought up the issue, not I.

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Re: Physics
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2008, 03:03:55 AM »
Most of the people committing crimes are using illegal guns already.  Most of them have felony records and cannot legally have one anyway.  Their guns are ALREADY criminialized, and they don't five a shit.

You ban them all, and only law-abiding good-guys will give them up.  The criminals will do what they did yesterday, today, and tomorrow.  I've never broken a gun law in my life.  And suddenly you're taking my guns away and letting the little trugs and criminals keep theirs?  Come on...

It works in Europe why not America. America got far more, i mean extremely more gun related murders than Europe
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