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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2008, 04:17:11 PM »
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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2008, 04:20:36 PM »
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Gayer than posting this video for G o t h b o y



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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2008, 04:26:09 PM »

Gayer than posting this video for G o t h b o y

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You really wanna start this shit again?  >:(



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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2008, 04:33:57 PM »

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2008, 05:15:56 PM »
there's nothing wrong with kicking a kids ass

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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2008, 07:40:23 PM »

Why don't you and the "woman" take your liberal, hippie views and go to Canada. Sheesh..... >:(

Parents must earn the kid's respect?  lol  Gayer than everyone wishing squadfather was back on this site.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2008, 07:56:48 PM »
That video should have been entitled "fat kid ends up on his back after raising his hand to his mother"
THAT WAS YOU 10 YEARS AGO AND THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU WANT TO FIGHT EVERYBODY AT THE KOLOSEAUM AND DONT SHOW AS WELL AS WHY YOUR A TRASHMAN THAT FUCKIN STINKS. :-*
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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2008, 09:21:27 PM »
  Wow, what a bunch of cavemen morons. Lots of posts by lunatics saying that beating up kids is the solution to "make them behave". Kids don't choose their parents. Kids don't choose to be brought into this World, but their parents do. And let's face it: this World leaves a lot to be desired. I don't blame kids for hating the World because it truly sucks. The Society makes these kids sit still for 9 hours listening to teachers, when they would like to be running outside, playing and just being kids. I support what this kid did 100%. I see it as an act of rebellion against a figure of authority, which I am all in favor of. People keep saying that you should respect your parents. Why? the reasons are often of pure biological determinism, because they are your parents. Going by this logic, then parents should respect their kids also because they are also biologically related. Other reason given for why children should respect their parents is because they pay the kid's bills. Oh geez, the last time I checked parents chose to put the kid in the World, so paying the kid's bills is an obligation and not a favor that the kid must repay somehow. Respect must be earned, and kids have no obligation to respect parents that are often absent when they need them, that put them in shitty shools where they are bullied, that make them do their dishes and clean their gardens as an employee, and that expect the kid to get good grades even though sitting still listening to teachers for 9 hours a day is pure torture for a 10 year old. When I was 14 my father tried to beat me up for something that he was wrong about - and even if it weren't it sill wouldn't matter because nothing gave him the right to beat me -, and I broke the cap of his right knee with his own golf club. Never again did he try to lay a hand on me.

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Nobody said beating up a kid, a spanking is not beating up a child. You had a abusive father. Period. A whipping is not knock-down, drag out fight. A child, you  should be taught to respect you parents, and don't speak to them like they are your playmates. You bite your fucking tongue. As the old adage, "children are seen not heard"

You don't say: "What" (as in a answer) or

 "Leave me along"  or roll your eyes...that my friend will get you slapped so hard your face will look like Picasso painting.   

cleaning the garden and washing dishes are chores, but it also instills discipline, and cleaning up after ones self. Kids have had chores since there was such a thing as a family unit or even in tribes.

You had a fucked up childhood  and was not shown the correct way parents should act.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2008, 01:57:40 AM »
Nobody said beating up a kid, a spanking is not beating up a child. You had a abusive father. Period.

  My father was no more abusive than regular fathers. What the did, beatings, are considered acceptable in Society.

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A whipping is not knock-down, drag out fight. A child, you  should be taught to respect you parents, and don't speak to them like they are your playmates. You bite your fucking tongue. As the old adage, "children are seen not heard"

  For fuck sake, I have already stated that I disagree with all of this and I have given reasons for it, so why are you repeating it? Just to state your caveman opinion again? Are you fucking retarded? Respect the parents? Based on what? What have the parents done to ear that respect? Let's see. Because they brought them into the World? what if the child didn't want to be born? What does a child who would never be born had he had the option "owe" to his parents? Because the parents are the biological origin of the child, then the child should respect them? Based on this logic that one should respect the origin of one's DNA, then people should give the lower animals the same treatment they give their parents, since Humans evolved from lower forms of life and they are our origin. You think they should respect them because the parents pay the child's bills? That's an obligation because they chose to have kids, while the kid had no say in it, so the parents are only doing their duty by paying the kid's bills and not doing the kid any special favor that they kid must repay. Respect is earned, and kids shouldn't give shitty parents who mistreat them, make them work for them and don't give them any attention, respect.

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You don't say: "What" (as in a answer) or

 "Leave me along"  or roll your eyes...that my friend will get you slapped so hard your face will look like Picasso painting.
 

  Yes, because hitting a child is so easy. Why don't you try to beat a man instead, you fucking coward?

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cleaning the garden and washing dishes are chores, but it also instills discipline, and cleaning up after ones self. Kids have had chores since there was such a thing as a family unit or even in tribes.

  No, it is child labor, and it is abusive. Some parent make the kids wash not only the dishes they ate but also the parents'. As for cleaning the garden, gardens are something that children don't care about. It is the parents who care for the garden, and thus they are the ones who should clean it. The child was not consulted on whether there should even be a garden in the first place, so there is no reason why the child should clean it.

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You had a fucked up childhood  and was not shown the correct way parents should act.

  Don't make a common problem seem like a rare phenom that only hnappens in dysfunctional families like my own. That is simply not true.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2008, 06:56:35 AM »
  My father was no more abusive than regular fathers. What the did, beatings, are considered acceptable in Society.

  For fuck sake, I have already stated that I disagree with all of this and I have given reasons for it, so why are you repeating it? Just to state your caveman opinion again? Are you fucking retarded? Respect the parents? Based on what? What have the parents done to ear that respect? Let's see. Because they brought them into the World? what if the child didn't want to be born? What does a child who would never be born had he had the option "owe" to his parents? Because the parents are the biological origin of the child, then the child should respect them? Based on this logic that one should respect the origin of one's DNA, then people should give the lower animals the same treatment they give their parents, since Humans evolved from lower forms of life and they are our origin. You think they should respect them because the parents pay the child's bills? That's an obligation because they chose to have kids, while the kid had no say in it, so the parents are only doing their duty by paying the kid's bills and not doing the kid any special favor that they kid must repay. Respect is earned, and kids shouldn't give shitty parents who mistreat them, make them work for them and don't give them any attention, respect.
 

  Yes, because hitting a child is so easy. Why don't you try to beat a man instead, you fucking coward?

  No, it is child labor, and it is abusive. Some parent make the kids wash not only the dishes they ate but also the parents'. As for cleaning the garden, gardens are something that children don't care about. It is the parents who care for the garden, and thus they are the ones who should clean it. The child was not consulted on whether there should even be a garden in the first place, so there is no reason why the child should clean it.

  Don't make a common problem seem like a rare phenom that only hnappens in dysfunctional families like my own. That is simply not true.

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this is what you said...."When I was 14 my father tried to beat me up. That right there is it in a nutshell,  "Beat me Up", plus at 14 a a "a whippin' has already ended by 12 at least. You said yourself, "beat you up", not a smack


And yeah, you said it, You respect the parent because they brought you into this world. 1st and foremost parents are not your friends, they are different, you ARE suppose to fear your parents, parents are suppose to be your first (and best) disciplinarians, but at the same time your 1st line of defense from f-ups in society.  When kids have no fear nor respect for their family, they have no fear nor respect for the law, which means, they have no respect for others, and then their asses see me when they get arrested.


And no you don't consult children on chores, you don't ask your child, "So what do you want to do today, dishes or weeds?" You don't give your children choices on subjects like that., that is power, one is the parent the other is a child.

As I said, you had a abusive father and a dysfunctional family, that yes is quite common today, which is why there are so many f uped people especially men in America. Typical of Baby Boomer Generation Parenting.. 

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2008, 03:15:23 PM »
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this is what you said...."When I was 14 my father tried to beat me up. That right there is it in a nutshell,  "Beat me Up", plus at 14 a a "a whippin' has already ended by 12 at least. You said yourself, "beat you up", not a smack

  Moron, beat me up means a smack. My father never hitme with closed fist, if that's what you mean. I object to any violence against children. Any. I never gave anyone the authority to hit me, and I don't tolerate that.

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And yeah, you said it, You respect the parent because they brought you into this world. 1st and foremost parents are not your friends, they are different, you ARE suppose to fear your parents, parents are suppose to be your first (and best) disciplinarians, but at the same time your 1st line of defense from f-ups in society.  When kids have no fear nor respect for their family, they have no fear nor respect for the law, which means, they have no respect for others, and then their asses see me when they get arrested.

  Why should one respect parents because they brought one to the World? All they did was fuck, something which is pleasurable for them but not for the child. Going by your logic, that one should respect one's parents because they gave one their DNA, then we should treat amoebas and bacteria as gods, since they are ultimately the origin of our DNA, the first life form that all other life forms - including Humans - evolved from. That is, if you are basing your argument that respect is imposed purely from a biological imperative. See how retarded you sound? And as for the argument that a child or adolescent should respect his parents because they take care of his bills, the parents had the child out of their own volition, knowing that the child would be unable to support himself for several years after birth, so the parents taking care of the child's bills is an obligation and not a favor that the child must somehow repay the parents. You are one stupid fuck, "Parker". I really think you should stop arguing with me, because the more you do the more of an imbecile you look.

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And no you don't consult children on chores, you don't ask your child, "So what do you want to do today, dishes or weeds?" You don't give your children choices on subjects like that., that is power, one is the parent the other is a child.

  Yes, authoritarian power. According to you, it is fair that the child should wash the parents' dishes and clean the gardens of the house. This despite the fact that the garden is something that the child does not care about, and was never consulted about it's creation, and for which, if the child had been consulted, he would most likely disapprove of. All of your arguments are sophomoric at best. The reasons that you give for why children should have all these obligations towards their parents and respect for them are either idiotic and illogical, or "just so". Why? Because you say so. That's all. You speak on an imperative tone, as if you were the owner of the truth, and you give no reasons for why you believe something besides that you think things should work like that. How can I argue with such a moron?

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As I said, you had a abusive father and a dysfunctional family, that yes is quite common today, which is why there are so many f uped people especially men in America. Typical of Baby Boomer Generation Parenting.. 

  I never had an abusive father or dysfunctional family. Don't pretend to know me or my family because you don't. My father doesen't drink, or abuse drugs, and he never beat me when I was a child in the way a man would beat another in a fight.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2008, 08:26:47 PM »
  Moron, beat me up means a smack. My father never hitme with closed fist, if that's what you mean. I object to any violence against children. Any. I never gave anyone the authority to hit me, and I don't tolerate that.

  Why should one respect parents because they brought one to the World? All they did was fuck, something which is pleasurable for them but not for the child. Going by your logic, that one should respect one's parents because they gave one their DNA, then we should treat amoebas and bacteria as gods, since they are ultimately the origin of our DNA, the first life form that all other life forms - including Humans - evolved from. That is, if you are basing your argument that respect is imposed purely from a biological imperative. See how retarded you sound? And as for the argument that a child or adolescent should respect his parents because they take care of his bills, the parents had the child out of their own volition, knowing that the child would be unable to support himself for several years after birth, so the parents taking care of the child's bills is an obligation and not a favor that the child must somehow repay the parents. You are one stupid fuck, "Parker". I really think you should stop arguing with me, because the more you do the more of an imbecile you look.


  Yes, authoritarian power. According to you, it is fair that the child should wash the parents' dishes and clean the gardens of the house. This despite the fact that the garden is something that the child does not care about, and was never consulted about it's creation, and for which, if the child had been consulted, he would most likely disapprove of. All of your arguments are sophomoric at best. The reasons that you give for why children should have all these obligations towards their parents and respect for them are either idiotic and illogical, or "just so". Why? Because you say so. That's all. You speak on an imperative tone, as if you were the owner of the truth, and you give no reasons for why you believe something besides that you think things should work like that. How can I argue with such a moron?

  I never had an abusive father or dysfunctional family. Don't pretend to know me or my family because you don't. My father doesen't drink, or abuse drugs, and he never beat me when I was a child in the way a man would beat another in a fight.

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Uhhh, You said "beat me up", now you clarify that as a "smack". When ever someone says "Beat Me Up", nobody thinks of a smack...if one smacks you, then you say that. Everybody understands a "whippin'" or a "beating" by a parent, those are universal American terms and typically the  one gets it from a open hand, a belt or a "switch" ( a light but strong branch of tree, my mother's favorite were peach switches or dogwood switches) 

You ask why should a child respect his parents, and disagree with my answers, then tell me, do you respect your parents, and why do or don't you?

As I said, which you avoided, Chores instill discipline, and also help keep the family unit together by providing children with a sense of helping out or a sense of duty. Some children look forward to doing chores, others do not. Also. If one isn't required to keep his or her room clean, chances are as a adult, they will not keep their rooms clean. For instance, I was slacker or so I thought with my room as a kid, but when I went to college, I found out that my parents requirement of me putting things in their places and keeping things cleaned helped me out, especially with the ladies, but I noticed some of my roommates didn't get that instilled in them at home. Often they were dirty and messy. Now I don't mind doing dishes, cleaning up the yard or mowing the lawn, things I dreaded as a kid, but I realize that keeping the lawn tidy and cut, having clean dishes is a hallmark of cleaniliness, and when I help my father, the neighbors stop and marvel at how kept the lawn is, and how good his shrubs look.   

Now, your starting to sound like a kid, calling names, and loosing your cool, do you need a time out? I have no argument with you, you are the one who seems argumentative about your position. Like something deep down inside you was rattle...going back to the golf club incident got to you.

You talking about hitting your father with a golf club, had i done that I would have been put out of the house. And it seems, that you weren't raised in way to instill a sense of respect for your parents. The crying game of "I wasn't ask to be born" ... Those who use that tend be very angry people inside for some odd reason,  I heard that from certain kids alot in H.S. I say kill ones self if they feel so strongly of not asking to be born.   And just because one doesn't drink, abuse drugs, doesn't mean  a family cannot be abusive, I neither said those things, you included them.

And by the way, I'm not "owner" of the truth, I do seek it out, though. You disagree with corporal punishment, then fine. What do or would you use? But time outs don't work as well, especially banishing one to one's room where they have everything they want there. And do you view children on the same level as adults? And Why?

Ultimately, what I have taken from the comments here and my experiences home and friends, being a parent comes down to loving the child, protecting the child, showing the child the correct way to do things, instilling a sense of self-respect and humbleness in the child and yes, disciplining the child. But at no time are you as a parent that child's "best buddies", like Timone and Puumba

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2008, 09:10:49 AM »


What the ?!?!?!?!?!   :o  Somebody would have been calling 911.  Either to arrest me or take the kid to the hospital.  :-\  Where is that kid's daddy?  My goodness. . . .   

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« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2008, 11:54:07 AM »
in the old days he would of met mister size 32 , black leather belt, buckle side out...now you cant touch these kids, so their fat, disrespectful and pregnant...
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« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2008, 02:36:29 PM »
this is what you said...."When I was 14 my father tried to beat me up. That right there is it in a nutshell,  "Beat me Up", plus at 14 a a "a whippin' has already ended by 12 at least. You said yourself, "beat you up", not a smack


And yeah, you said it, You respect the parent because they brought you into this world. 1st and foremost parents are not your friends, they are different, you ARE suppose to fear your parents, parents are suppose to be your first (and best) disciplinarians, but at the same time your 1st line of defense from f-ups in society.  When kids have no fear nor respect for their family, they have no fear nor respect for the law, which means, they have no respect for others, and then their asses see me when they get arrested.


And no you don't consult children on chores, you don't ask your child, "So what do you want to do today, dishes or weeds?" You don't give your children choices on subjects like that., that is power, one is the parent the other is a child.

As I said, you had a abusive father and a dysfunctional family, that yes is quite common today, which is why there are so many f uped people especially men in America. Typical of Baby Boomer Generation Parenting.. 

sorry i gotta go with parker on this one.  i have a one year old.  he is too young to physically discipline now but my wife and i both agree that spankings if given correctly are an effective tool with your children.  suckmymuscle you were hit out of anger.  thats completely different than disciplining a child.  thats child abuse.   i would never ever in a million years hit my child out of anger.  when my father hit us we were never scared for our safety.  it was just something that you didnt want to come your way because it sucks gettin cracked in the ass.  we all knew that he loved us and he would never really hurt us.  and your comment on me having to earn my childs respect before he is obliged to obey me;  BAWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


but also let me clarify something with this kid in the video.  beating him is not the answer.  there is no amount of beating that will change him.  he is too far gone.  small bits of discipline from day 1 is what is needed.  a huge ass beatdown is not going to reverse going ten or eleven years with no discipline.  he needs therapy.  dont feel bad for his parents either.  they did this to him.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2008, 10:52:59 PM »
see, the mom screwed up by not pancaking the kid immediately, the moment he stuck his fat finger in her face.

it's like the teacher who gets their ass whooped by a student.  before the kid swings, there's usually a whole series of steps - intimidating looks, verbal threats, standing up, getting in face, etc, as they test their boundaries.

lesson learned... whether it's a man in a bar, your kid, whatever.  The minute they test their boundaries, you make them see stars.

Interesting post, are you saying throw the first punch?
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« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2008, 11:05:06 PM »
Why is everyone getting down on the kid but not his mother?  She's the idiot that raised him to act that way.  I feel sorry for the little bastard.

P.S. My parents rarely (like twice) spanked me.  I've never caused any trouble, I'm a model citizen today because of my upbringing.  ;D  I guess spanking is effective if you must resort to it, but I have way more respect for parents who have raised civilized children without spanking.
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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2008, 03:34:39 AM »
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« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2008, 03:58:45 AM »
Why is everyone getting down on the kid but not his mother?  She's the idiot that raised him to act that way.   I feel sorry for the little bastard.

P.S. My parents rarely (like twice) spanked me.  I've never caused any trouble, I'm a model citizen today because of my upbringing.  ;D  I guess spanking is effective if you must resort to it, but I have way more respect for parents who have raised civilized children without spanking.

Exactly. I am not some anti-spanking nut, but just was not my thing. My parents never hit me, and I have never hit my stepdaughter. Neither of us are disrespectful in general, let alone to family. To this day I still show my parents the utmost respect at all times. One issue with using sheer force to control a kid is they can outgrow that quickly. My brother, who is a very big guy, was way bigger than my mom when he was about 13. But to 'control him' - it took a look or a word.

Respect is learned and taught. Discipline is not the hard part of parenting, it's the spending time and effort with your kids day in and out that makes the big difference. Spankings can have their place, especially with like 2 yrs olds who don't get reasoning yet, but if you have some hot mess kid like that video - look at the parenting 95% if the time.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2008, 04:41:07 AM »
Why is everyone getting down on the kid but not his mother?  She's the idiot that raised him to act that way.  I feel sorry for the little bastard.

P.S. My parents rarely (like twice) spanked me.  I've never caused any trouble, I'm a model citizen today because of my upbringing.  ;D  I guess spanking is effective if you must resort to it, but I have way more respect for parents who have raised civilized children without spanking.
You're probably right, but i would have dropped kicked the little shit anyway...  I prolly best not have kids :D

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2008, 06:00:23 AM »
sorry i gotta go with parker on this one.  i have a one year old.  he is too young to physically discipline now but my wife and i both agree that spankings if given correctly are an effective tool with your children.  suckmymuscle you were hit out of anger.  thats completely different than disciplining a child.  thats child abuse.   i would never ever in a million years hit my child out of anger.  when my father hit us we were never scared for our safety.  it was just something that you didnt want to come your way because it sucks gettin cracked in the ass.  we all knew that he loved us and he would never really hurt us.  and your comment on me having to earn my childs respect before he is obliged to obey me;  BAWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


but also let me clarify something with this kid in the video.  beating him is not the answer.  there is no amount of beating that will change him.  he is too far gone.  small bits of discipline from day 1 is what is needed.  a huge ass beatdown is not going to reverse going ten or eleven years with no discipline.  he needs therapy.  dont feel bad for his parents either.  they did this to him.

good post.  you sound like a good dad.  watch out for the terrible two's.  the more brilliant the kid is, the more frustrated he'll be at things, and the bigger the tantrum.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2008, 06:06:16 AM »
Interesting post, are you saying throw the first punch?

No.  I'm saying the minute the kid SAYS something disrespectful, he's outta there.  it never comes down to physical because you diffuse the situation ten steps ahead of that by kicking him the hell outta there.

Of course, if a kid IS in your face, you have every legal right to pin him.

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Re: Disrespectful kid slaps his own Mom.
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2008, 12:53:10 PM »
good post.  you sound like a good dad.  watch out for the terrible two's.  the more brilliant the kid is, the more frustrated he'll be at things, and the bigger the tantrum.

oh god i know.  sometimes i think he was sent here to destroy me for what i put my dad through.