testosterone dose to equal physiologic level?

[theworm]

so is it about 100mg of test ethanate just to replace natural levels?

anyone know the conversions?  like how much your test goes up per 100mg/ml?

MD says that even 200mg of test e per week was much more than supraphysiological levels...

[WillGrant]

so is it about 100mg of test ethanate just to replace natural levels?

anyone know the conversions?  like how much your test goes up per 100mg/ml?

MD says that even 200mg of test e per week was much more than supraphysiological levels...

To get you into the "normal" range Test E is prescribed at 1ml /250mg every 21 days...Doctors arnt concerned with your fascination to build big muscles,If you want him to prescribe it at 1 ml a week collect your scripts but dont use them and keep going back to get blood work done..

[4thAD]

To get you into the "normal" range Test E is prescribed at 1ml /250mg every 21 days...Doctors arnt concerned with your fascination to build big muscles,If you want him to prescribe it at 1 ml a week collect your scripts but dont use them and keep going back to get blood work done..

Not necessarily true. Maybe for some, but not in all cases. I know guys that have scripts for 250mg e2w and others have less. It is very common to be scripted @ 100-200mg ew. All depends on blood work and what it will take to sustain you on the high side of normal.

[WillGrant]

Not necessarily true. Maybe for some, but not in all cases. I know guys that have scripts for 250mg e2w and others have less. It is very common to be scripted @ 100-200mg ew. All depends on blood work and what it will take to sustain you on the high side of normal.

This is true also,as everyone is different it comes back your own bloods,but in the DRs handbook test E is recomended at admin every 21 days 

[4thAD]

This is true also,as everyone is different it comes back your own bloods,but in the DRs handbook test E is recomended at admin every 21 days 

 Didnt realize that the book said that, but it makes sense with a long estered drug. Learn something new every day. Thanx!

[WillGrant]

Didnt realize that the book said that, but it makes sense with a long estered drug. Learn something new every day. Thanx!

I only know this as I told my DR I will be on a mil a week for the rest of my life and he looked it up in his book and said that is a superphysiological dose.it is prescribed at 250mg once every 21 days.

[Vet]

so is it about 100mg of test ethanate just to replace natural levels?

anyone know the conversions?  like how much your test goes up per 100mg/ml?

MD says that even 200mg of test e per week was much more than supraphysiological levels...

Its not that simple.   

Replacing the physiological doses for hormones is essentially based on a variable dosing regimine.  Every person is different.   Thats why the doctors (who are legitimately prescribing the drugs, not some HRT scam clinic or extralabel use for whatever reason) insist on followup bloodwork.  The dose that may make one persons test levels return to normal may not someone else.  And its not necessarily based on body mass either.  Its based on the individuals physiology and their test results. 

From the prescriber guidelines for Test Ethanate:

Dosage and duration of therapy with DELATESTRYL® (Testosterone Enanthate Injection, USP) will depend on age, sex, diagnosis, patient's response to treatment, and appearance of adverse effects.

and

In general, total doses above 400 mg per month are not required because of the prolonged action of the preparation. Injections more frequently than every two weeks are rarely indicated.  As replacement therapy, i.e., for eunuchism, the suggested dosage is 50 to 400 mg every 2 to 4 weeks.

[Van_Bilderass]

Injecting less than once a week will not give stable levels. Injecting 400mg once a month would be a poor idea. Injecting 100mg once a week would be better than 200mg every 2 weeks too.

According to Dr Crisler 100mg of Cypionate puts most in the high-normal range. Even with once weekly injections the T levels falls a bit towards the end of the week. That's why he schedules the HCG injections the last couple of days before the next T injection.

[theworm]

Its not that simple.   

Replacing the physiological doses for hormones is essentially based on a variable dosing regimine.  Every person is different.   Thats why the doctors (who are legitimately prescribing the drugs, not some HRT scam clinic or extralabel use for whatever reason) insist on followup bloodwork.  The dose that may make one persons test levels return to normal may not someone else.  And its not necessarily based on body mass either.  Its based on the individuals physiology and their test results. 

From the prescriber guidelines for Test Ethanate:
 and

what do u have against these clinics?  legal and very safe, they check blood work and have doc follow ups...

[candidizzle]

Injecting less than once a week will not give stable levels. Injecting 400mg once a month would be a poor idea. Injecting 100mg once a week would be better than 200mg every 2 weeks too.

According to Dr Crisler 100mg of Cypionate puts most in the high-normal range. Even with once weekly injections the T levels falls a bit towards the end of the week. That's why he schedules the HCG injections the last couple of days before the next T injection.

i have seen graphs showing serum levels of test after different injects of supposed "heavy esters", but most seem to release the bulk within the first 3 dya sor so then let out a very small tricle for the remainder of the ester life....   so from seeing those graphs id think id rather do 50mg twice a week than 100mg once a week.

[abc123]

what do u have against these clinics?  legal and very safe, they check blood work and have doc follow ups...

I agree. They may not jive with the typical doctor's interpretation of his/her medicinal latitude, but the are legit.  My clinic checks my blood regularly and calls frequently to check up on my experience/progress. 

Also, I feel a hell of a lot more comfortable using a HRT clinic under the care of a doctor than using some black market hormone that I don't know for sure is legit.  Plus, I feel better than I have in years.  Quality of life is very important.

[theworm]

agree!   my doc calls me frequently making sure all is ok,,,,  2 sets of bloodwork in the past months alone!

much safer than ordering from overseas.....  for one, getting a felony is a HUGE deal, and injecting what someone made in their basement is not very safe at all either.  everythin alin has is underground.    you may feel safe for now, but when these places get busted in the next few years they WILL have all your info!   pretty scary.

i would be scared if i was candi...

[candidizzle]

i would be scared if i was candi...

[4thAD]

agree!   my doc calls me frequently making sure all is ok,,,,  2 sets of bloodwork in the past months alone!

much safer than ordering from overseas.....  for one, getting a felony is a HUGE deal, and injecting what someone made in their basement is not very safe at all either.  everythin alin has is underground.    you may feel safe for now, but when these places get busted in the next few years they WILL have all your info!   pretty scary.

i would be scared if i was candi...

I wouldn't be scared, do you know how many people order from these guys. Your way over thinking this!

[theworm]

true, just wanted to kid with candizzle...

anyway, its still a risk nonetheless... you cannot get a job with a felony charge.