Ruhl

[Alex23]

How much did you have to pay for that session?

[candidizzle]

 

[polychronopolous]

Candizzle - What kind of dosages do you think Ruhl took leading up to the 2002 N.O.C.?

[candidizzle]

i bet you it is something similar to that pre contest stack gh15 had outlined about a year and a half ago.

ill dig it up... hold on

[Swedish Viking]

  Tell me that first pic is shopped.

[candidizzle]

Candizzle - What kind of dosages do you think Ruhl took leading up to the 2002 N.O.C.?

from gh15 -


ok
i got dozens of members here asking me for an example for pro bodybuilder cycles,,as i said many times before in general,,we do not get completely off drugs we only reduce the number of products/doses etc,,

what i will do here is give you a typical top pro routine,,THIS SHOULD NOT BE IMMITATED! THIS IS FOR BODYBUILDERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL STAGES OF HORMONE USE,,THIS IS NOT FOR BEGGINERS NOR IS IT FOR THE RECREATIONAL USER!  i did not write the following but it is best describe a high level pro bodybuilder routine and i confirm this post

again be careful and dont think that by doing the same you will get same results,,you need the genetic response to be there in the first place! you need to be able to compete locally and do well with a lot less hormones

enjoy



PRE-CONTEST:

10-7 WEEKS OUT

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

6-2 WEEKS OUT:

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg’s at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

WEEKS 2 AND FIRST HALF OF WEEK 1:

Same as above except the Nubain is dropped, as it is unnecessary, as well as the IGF-1 is dropped.

Also one extra ampoule of Parabolan and Masteron per day.

LAST THREE DAYS:

Uses neoton 500, creatine phosphate (its an injectable I believe) in his carb deplete/load, he was unspecific on dosages

Two days out he uses Lasix (still a favorite) 80 mg four times a day, for two days.

The newest thing out is a plasma expander, by the name of

Groenaut, apparently from Europe, this works much in the same way as Glycerol in that it drams water out from underneath the skin and into the muscle and bloodstream leaving a very dry full look if it is done correctly, of course as with high stakes bodybuilding there is that ever apparent degree of risk, the risk here is mixing a diuretic which dumps the water from the system and a drug that tries to pull the water in, if the effect is too great, the least that could happen is that you don’t fill out and you look flat, dry but flat, the worst well the drug tends to favor skeletal muscle over smooth cardiac muscle, hence you are then in shit street as your heart dehydrates, and cardiac arrest kicks in, (not the same thing as Momo, though).

There are a lot of other drugs that are used such as amphetamines to help blunt the appetite and to give him energy as he gets closer to a show, as his body fat drops down to below 5 percent, he tends to feel very ill and tired, he also uses a lot of immuno stimulating supplements so he doesn’t get sick, of course as he is wired from the amphetamines he has to use xanax, halicon and valium (rotated to reduce reliance on a certain drug supposedly).

On show day the use of insulin before going on stage to get the last bit of fullness and bring out his vascularity, (up close this guy has veins that an octopus would envy. Shooting 10 units I.V before going on but after any pumping up he does

 

[Alex23]

This was posted by a gimmick on an internet message board so it must be true.

[Mars]

  Tell me that first pic is shopped.

it's shopped.

[polychronopolous]

Candizzle - How much experience. years wise, using hormones would a person need before he could use this sort of stack to it's maximum effectiveness?

[Mars]

Candizzle - How much experience. years wise, using hormones would a person need before he could use this sort of stack to it's maximum effectiveness?

good question.

[polychronopolous]

Damn, 180mg of ephedrine? I would be too strung out to even lift.

[candidizzle]

dude, in all honesty i think using that much drugs is a death wish.

but i dont doub that a guy like rhul would have to take amounts similar to that in order to make further gains.   

the amount of muscle he is carrying there is just so unbelievably UNNATURAL that i guarantee his body is fighting tooth and  nail 24/7 to do anything it can to rid its self of all that tissue

[polychronopolous]

dude, in all honesty i think using that much drugs is a death wish.

but i dont doub that a guy like rhul would have to take amounts similar to that in order to make further gains.   

the amount of muscle he is carrying there is just so unbelievably UNNATURAL that i guarantee his body is fighting tooth and  nail 24/7 to do anything it can to rid its self of all that tissue

Makes sense. What weight do you think a guy like Ruhl would settle down to if he kept his protein intake moderately high and lifted 3 or 4 times a week, like the average somewhat dedicated weight lifter? This is barring any hormones of course.

[candidizzle]

if he went off hormones completely ?

i think ruhl is like 5'10'' ? i would think he would still hold onto some muscle and be a solid 190-210 lbs with abs..   which is still damn good !


anyways, i dont want to seem like i am a gh15 blind follower and i think ALL pro's take that kind of drug doseages.  there are plenty of guys, most of the better quality more aesthetic physiques, that im sure use just enough to grow and have great genetics and probably can compete on no more than 2-3 grams hormones with a small amount of some fat burners and some diuretics come comp. day . 

[polychronopolous]

if he went off hormones completely ?

i think ruhl is like 5'10'' ? i would think he would still hold onto some muscle and be a solid 190-210 lbs with abs..   which is still damn good !


anyways, i dont want to seem like i am a gh15 blind follower and i think ALL pro's take that kind of drug doseages.  there are plenty of guys, most of the better quality more aesthetic physiques, that im sure use just enough to grow and have great genetics and probably can compete on no more than 2-3 grams hormones with a small amount of some fat burners and some diuretics come comp. day . 

What if a person took all these huge amounts of hormones for say 8 or so years. You know, year in year out and then stopped "cold turkey" that is no HRT at all. Would they still be able to live comfortably? or is the HRT and absolute necessity?

[Alex23]

if he went off hormones completely ?

i think ruhl is like 5'10'' ? i would think he would still hold onto some muscle and be a solid 190-210 lbs with abs..   which is still damn good !

HAHAHAH!!! you know nothing.

Rhul was already 225-230 with decent waist before even touching a nanogram of drugs.

There are guys like us and guys like you who admire us.

[Camel Jockey]

HAHAHAH!!! you know nothing.

Rhul was already 225-230 with decent waist before even touching a nanogram of drugs.

There are guys like us and guys like you who admire us.

How do you know?

Ruhl was one of my favorites btw. I guess the pec tear fucked him up.

[Alex23]

How do you know?

Ruhl was one of my favorites btw. I guess the pec tear fucked him up.

his bone structure alone weights more than that so ain't too hard to figure out and believe when he said so.

There are plenty of 'clean' guys with good genetics hoovering in these range.

Bob chick also comes to mind.

[Camel Jockey]

his bone structure alone weights more than that so ain't too hard to figure out and believe when he said so.

There are plenty of 'clean' guys with good genetics hoovering in these range.

Bob chick also comes to mind.

I guess so because I've seen plenty of black dudes looking like that and I believe they were drug free.

But I take everything with a grain of salt these days. Not because of hate or anything, but because it's just simply easy to lie.

One thing I didn't agree with gh15 on is genetics. He credited people like daddywaddy with good genes, while saying thick structured people like John Cena, and blacks didn't have good genetics.  Gimmick or pro, the guy's judge of natural genetics was piss poor.

[spinnis]

HAHAHAH!!! you know nothing.

Rhul was already 225-230 with decent waist before even touching a nanogram of drugs.

There are guys like us and guys like you who admire us.

Who the hells admire you? hahahahaha

[candidizzle]

Rhul was already 225-230 with decent waist before even touching a nanogram of drugs.

[candidizzle]

What if a person took all these huge amounts of hormones for say 8 or so years. You know, year in year out and then stopped "cold turkey" that is no HRT at all. Would they still be able to live comfortably?   or is the HRT and absolute necessity?

[spinnis]

Most def HRT

[candidizzle]

Most def HRT

[BayGBM]

Markus and I wrestling a couple of months ago. Still pretty large.

I'll take on both of you!