Mandatory bigotry - Mormonism reveals its true colors

[Tre]

They didn't even allow black members until some time in the late 70s.

Just for clarification, it was actually the 'priesthood' that was denied to people of color until 1978, when lo and behold, God (aka 'Heavenly Father') revealed to 'the prophet' that it was now time for the ban to be lifted. 

Because of the Elijah Abel story, though, they're going to adamantly deny their racist roots. 

In the 1970s U.S., there was significant social and economic pressure to eliminate the Mormon Jim Crow laws.  In addition, they were trying to expand in South America and as you know, many South Americans are darker than I am.  In order to keep the converts coming, they had no choice but to extend all the 'blessings' to each 'worthy' male in the church, regardless of color. 

[pumpher]

Can't you have multiple wives if you are male? or is that only certain branches of the CLDS?

[dr.chimps]

Gee. A religious sect/movement is exclusionary/discriminatory? Alert the press. 

[Fatpanda]

this mormmon thing sounds quite good.

i like the fact you can have multiple wives, but then it lets me down by saying you cannot sleep with them all at once  whats that about? if i am maried to more than 1 wife i want an orgy every night, one licking my balls, the other licking my ass, while the other one sucks my cock 

[Tre]

Gee. A religious sect/movement is exclusionary/discriminatory? Alert the press. 

Well, the difference is that this is a corporation religion that takes great pride in its corporate image and which spends no less than tens of millions of dollars a year (actual spending figures not available from this 'non-profit') on a carefully-scripted advertising campaign. 

Right now, instead of being Christ-like, they've come to the conclusion that a move like this will be perceived as 'the Christian thing to do', so they're hoping it will mean more investigators, because investigators = potential members = more money for the prophet and his gang. 

[G o a t b o y]

You have to check each company.  They could still be majority shareholders.  When a company goes public, they don't put the whole company up for sale.

here's a list from a mormon site.
http://mormonstoday.com/011019/B4MSI01.shtml

Well of course the Morons, er... Mormons want to make it sound like they're more important than they really are.  On pretty much any website devoted to stocks, one of the indicators listed for a company is "percent of institutional ownership".  "Institutions" are investment entities like Goldman Sachs, Citibank, large pension funds, large hedge funds, etc.  They are by definition not "Mormon" (Jewish maybe, but that's another story  ).  Using the two examples Tre cited, Marriott is currently 53% institution-owned, and JetBlue is 61% instition-owned.  Then you have to consider all the small individual investors from all walks of life who hold portions of the "non-institutional" stock.  While the Mormon founders of these companies may still own some shares, they don't have anything even close to a controlling interest.  These companies, like all publicly-traded companies, are owned by members of the public, from all walks of life.

[G o a t b o y]

It seems that i am the only active mormon that posts on getbig!

No, Dan-O from the X board is a Muppet Mormon too.

[G o a t b o y]

Mormons are supporting this bill because we believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. We believe this because marriage is eternal not just till death do us part but forever

Great, you're entitled to your belief, and to live as you believe.

I have one question for you:

Why do you think you have the right to force your belief on others who may not hold the same view?

[dr.chimps]

Well, the difference is that this is a corporation religion that takes great pride in its corporate image and which spends no less than tens of millions of dollars a year (actual spending figures not available from this 'non-profit') on a carefully-scripted advertising campaign. 

Right now, instead of being Christ-like, they've come to the conclusion that a move like this will be perceived as 'the Christian thing to do', so they're hoping it will mean more investigators, because investigators = potential members = more money for the prophet and his gang. 

No different to the Catholic church which does the same thing. Even have their own (Vatican) bank. The only winning move is to not play. 

[The Master]

Why do you think you have the right to force your belief on others who may not hold the same view?

Because he is a retarded moronic jerkoff.

[Tre]

Great, you're entitled to your belief, and to live as you believe.

I have one question for you:

Why do you think you have the right to force your belief on others who may not hold the same view?

Answer: Arrogance.

[DK II]

Forcing your religous beliefs on others will lead to WW3.

[leaky_frog]

  I think the Mormon concern on this issue has more to do with practice of freedom of religion than whether gays can marry or not.  There is a lot of legal speculation that churches will be taken to court by civil rights groups to compel acceptance of gay marriage, or risk losing non-profit status, among other censures.  Other groups have faced similar problems (boy scouts, for example), and I'm betting the Mormons are trying to head off that kind of an issue, rather than simply stop gays from marrying.  Most mormons I know seem to have a live and let live attitude about the issue.

[Tre]

Trust me, Mormons will do whatever necessary to protect the profit. 

[genrommel74]

Great, you're entitled to your belief, and to live as you believe.

I have one question for you:

Why do you think you have the right to force your belief on others who may not hold the same view?

We as mormons are saying that someone cant be gay, it is your choice. But if gay marriage is legal then it will taught in schools as an acceptable practice. I dont my children taught that gay marriage is ok

[genrommel74]

Trust me, Mormons will do whatever necessary to protect the profit. 

The prophet and apostles arent wealthy, the church gives them what then to be comfort, not rich. and you dont know more about the church then me! You just look for anything that you think is negative about the church, and you believe it at face value, and the porn thing, i think porn is evil

[Hugo Chavez]

Well of course the Morons, er... Mormons want to make it sound like they're more important than they really are.  On pretty much any website devoted to stocks, one of the indicators listed for a company is "percent of institutional ownership".  "Institutions" are investment entities like Goldman Sachs, Citibank, large pension funds, large hedge funds, etc.  They are by definition not "Mormon" (Jewish maybe, but that's another story  ).  Using the two examples Tre cited, Marriott is currently 53% institution-owned, and JetBlue is 61% instition-owned.  Then you have to consider all the small individual investors from all walks of life who hold portions of the "non-institutional" stock.  While the Mormon founders of these companies may still own some shares, they don't have anything even close to a controlling interest.  These companies, like all publicly-traded companies, are owned by members of the public, from all walks of life.

I guess he still has his desired effect of striking back with the ceo of the companies in question being mormon, just that there will be other shareholders effected that have nothing to do with it.  Agree with the Jewish thing.  They probably own more than anybody.

[Tre]

The prophet and apostles arent wealthy, the church gives them what then to be comfort, not rich. and you dont know more about the church then me! You just look for anything that you think is negative about the church, and you believe it at face value, and the porn thing, i think porn is evil.

I think the use of the words 'porn' and 'pornography' defile the house of the lord when used in the chapel.  Yet, many Mormons think it's totally appropriate to use such vile and disgusting terms in front of small children. 

Neither you nor I have ever seen any financial disclosures from this (alleged) non-profit organization.  Wonder why? 

You 'accept at face value' whatever you've been told by your leaders with respect to the money, but that's just not good enough for me. 

[genrommel74]

I think the use of the words 'porn' and 'pornography' defile the house of the lord when used in the chapel.  Yet, many Mormons think it's totally appropriate to use such vile and disgusting terms in front of small children. 

Neither you nor I have ever seen any financial disclosures from this (alleged) non-profit organization.  Wonder why? 

You 'accept at face value' whatever you've been told by your leaders with respect to the money, but that's just not good enough for me. 

Yes i have! i have seen the churches financial records. They use the words porn, becasue they dont want there to any mistake as too what they are talking about. You have to address the subject you cant just hope that kids dont see it.

[drkaje]

Porn is good and any faith that can't survive a few boobies is no faith at all.

[DK II]

Porn is good and any faith that can't survive a few boobies is no faith at all.

100% true!

Look at Hindu temples, all tiities and pussies and weird sexual positions! gotta love it!

[Tre]

Yes i have! i have seen the churches financial records. They use the words porn, becasue they dont want there to any mistake as too what they are talking about. You have to address the subject you cant just hope that kids dont see it.

Actually, you don't have to address the subject at all.  Don't know whether you're a parent, but when teaching your kids right from wrong, you don't cover everything under the sun, because you have no way of knowing what they'll encounter throughout their lives.  So, you help them to develop a moral compass that will guide them throughout their lives and this can be achieved without discussing pornography in church.  I know that SLC treats you guys like you don't have Common Sense and cannot think for yourselves - such as the admonition from many pulpits that Mormons should donate used items to DI instead of holding garage sales  - but at the end of the day, the more counsel that kids get from home, the better off they will be. 

Now, about this money thing...show me what you've got.  What was the total national advertising budget for the year you were able to see a fact sheet? 

[Tre]

Porn is good and any faith that can't survive a few boobies is no faith at all.

What the wife doesn't understand is that if she won't give me lap dances, someone else will...and it might even be someone from her church.   

[drkaje]

What the wife doesn't understand is that if she won't give me lap dances, someone else will...and it might even be someone from her church.   

You're paying her a lot more than the dancers, LOL!

[ATHEIST]

Is that for all christian religions or just some?

Its definitly true for all branches of Chrisitianity, its in the bible some where. some Christians can skew the word and say it interpreted in another way but theologists will tell you other wise.