As everyone knows, Cheney spoke differently on Iraq 15 years ago: watch

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[headhuntersix]

Again..we didn't have a UN mandate. We did the job we went over there for...we had no occupation plan. They thought they had one in 2003. What u know about history, especially military history could fill a thimble.

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Again..we didn't have a UN mandate. We did the job we went over there for...we had no occupation plan. They thought they had one in 2003. What u know about history, especially military history could fill a thimble.

They thought they had one. That's a good one. 

I guess Saddam became worth a lot more dead Americans according to your reasoning and Mr. Cheney's.

[Hugo Chavez]

Again..we didn't have a UN mandate. We did the job we went over there for...we had no occupation plan. They thought they had one in 2003. What u know about history, especially military history could fill a thimble.

  Oh fucking please...  The only reason they went to the UN was because Tony Blair made it a requirement for Bush before he would sign on with Bush's lies. (which was actually a requirement put on blair from within his gov.)  Bush wanted to go in without going to the UN, then all of a sudden he changed his mind.  There's the reason he changed his mind! You could get away with your retarded bullshit but you fools keep forgetting we now have exact evidence of what happened and why!  So don't go make it sounding like it's a UN thing.  Irrelevant to many of the points made by Dick in that video anyway.  So please, cut the crap.

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Hugo Chavez]

They thought they had one. That's a good one. 

I guess Saddam became worth a lot more dead Americans according to your reasoning and Mr. Cheney's.

actually what he isn't telling you is they had one and guys like rumsfeld pissed all over those plans and pushed the general's out that stuck to them.  Rumsfeld was sure nothing near the numbers presented would be needed.  So in fact they'll never know if the military's planning would have worked.  It was never used.  I guess HH6 needs a little history help

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actually what he isn't telling you is they had one and guys like rumsfeld pissed all over those plans and pushed the general's out that stuck to them.  Rumsfeld was sure nothing near the numbers presented would be needed.  So in fact they'll never know if the military's planning would have worked.  It was never used.  I guess HH6 needs a little history help

Iraq=Mess

[headhuntersix]

  Oh fucking please...  The only reason they went to the UN was because Tony Blair made it a requirement for Bush before he would sign on with Bush's lies. (which was actually a requirement put on blair from within his gov.)  Bush wanted to go in without going to the UN, then all of a sudden he changed his mind.  There's the reason he changed his mind! You could get away with your retarded bullshit but you fools keep forgetting we now have exact evidence of what happened and why!  So don't go make it sounding like it's a UN thing.  Irrelevant to many of the points made by Dick in that video anyway.  So please, cut the crap.

http://downingstreetmemo.com/
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In 1991 we did not have a UN mandate to invade and topple Saddam. It was for the liberation of Kuwait alone. They did not have an occupation plan in 1991...we're talking 1991 so please stay with me here. As far as history, well boys I can diagram the friggen campaign plans of both invasions, from memory, so yeah I understand what the hell happened.  Also I would invite u again to look at the Desert Storm order of Battle....we had arab armies on our flanks and occupying Kuwait. Any actions beyond what the UN stated, was going to cause major problems for us with the coalition forces. Thats why we didn't go. Bush had a vistory, we did our job, enough said.

[Decker]

Again..we didn't have a UN mandate. We did the job we went over there for...we had no occupation plan. They thought they had one in 2003. What u know about history, especially military history could fill a thimble.

The US didn't need a UN mandate b/c Iraq attacked an ally--Kuwait.

It was textbook self-defense of another.

It looks like there was a consensus.

Building a coalition
A long series of UN Security Council resolutions and Arab League resolutions were passed regarding the conflict. One of the most important was Resolution 678, passed on November 29, giving Iraq a withdrawal deadline of January 15, 1991, and authorizing “all necessary means to uphold and implement Resolution 660,” a diplomatic formulation authorizing the use of force[citation needed].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Storm#Building_a_coalition

The United States, especially Secretary of State James Baker, assembled a coalition of forces to join it in opposing Iraq, consisting of forces from 34 countries: Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, France, Greece, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, New Zealand, guy, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Spain, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States itself.[17] Although they did not contribute any forces, Japan and West Germany did make financial contributions totaling $10 billion and $6.6 billion respectively. US troops represented 73% of the coalition’s 956,600 troops in Iraq. Many of the coalition forces were reluctant to join; some felt that the war was an internal Arab affair, or feared increasing American influence in Kuwait. In the end, many nations were persuaded by Iraq’s belligerence towards other Arab states, and offers of economic aid or debt forgiveness.[citation needed]

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We need to attack Iran.

[youandme]

In this case if you want to go back in time....let's turn to Obama's "Disarmament of Soviet Union" thesis, or how about his wife's "Black Power" thesis?


Sure you want to go back in time and play this game?


In 1983 when President Reagan and then-Vice President Bush were standing toe-to-toe with the Communist threat from the Soviet Union, Barack Obama was, according to the New York Daily News, attending “socialist conferences” in New York City. Also in 1983, Barack Obama penned a thesis at Columbia University entitled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament.” As of today, Obama has not released his thesis, and the media (even though they got copies of MICHELLE Obama’s thesis) has not bothered to ask him for it.

[Deicide]

In this case if you want to go back in time....let's turn to Obama's "Disarmament of Soviet Union" thesis, or how about his wife's "Black Power" thesis?


Sure you want to go back in time and play this game?


In 1983 when President Reagan and then-Vice President Bush were standing toe-to-toe with the Communist threat from the Soviet Union, Barack Obama was, according to the New York Daily News, attending “socialist conferences” in New York City. Also in 1983, Barack Obama penned a thesis at Columbia University entitled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament.” As of today, Obama has not released his thesis, and the media (even though they got copies of MICHELLE Obama’s thesis) has not bothered to ask him for it.

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran....lalalalalalalala lalala....

[youandme]

Again..we didn't have a UN mandate. We did the job we went over there for...we had no occupation plan. They thought they had one in 2003. What u know about history, especially military history could fill a thimble.

The job is working, Dems seem to not understand this. Obama voted against the surge, showing he has no comprehension of military stratagem. He would have handed that country over to Iran, China, and Russia on a silver platter.

[Deicide]

The job is working, Dems seem to not understand this. Obama voted against the surge, showing he has no comprehension of military stratagem. He would have handed that country over to Iran, China, and Russia on a silver platter.

That's right, we need to steal and occupy first!

[Hugo Chavez]

  Oh fucking please...  The only reason they went to the UN was because Tony Blair made it a requirement for Bush before he would sign on with Bush's lies. (which was actually a requirement put on blair from within his gov.)  Bush wanted to go in without going to the UN, then all of a sudden he changed his mind.  There's the reason he changed his mind! You could get away with your retarded bullshit but you fools keep forgetting we now have exact evidence of what happened and why!  So don't go make it sounding like it's a UN thing.  Irrelevant to many of the points made by Dick in that video anyway.  So please, cut the crap.

http://downingstreetmemo.com/
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In 1991 we did not have a UN mandate to invade and topple Saddam. It was for the liberation of Kuwait alone. They did not have an occupation plan in 1991...we're talking 1991 so please stay with me here. As far as history, well boys I can diagram the friggen campaign plans of both invasions, from memory, so yeah I understand what the hell happened.  Also I would invite u again to look at the Desert Storm order of Battle....we had arab armies on our flanks and occupying Kuwait. Any actions beyond what the UN stated, was going to cause major problems for us with the coalition forces. Thats why we didn't go. Bush had a vistory, we did our job, enough said.

enough said, you didn't even get the point! lol...  wanna try reading that again   Maybe slower this time!  If you don't get it, I'll slow down for you and step by step it.  why are we replying in quotes now

[Decker]

In this case if you want to go back in time....let's turn to Obama's "Disarmament of Soviet Union" thesis, or how about his wife's "Black Power" thesis?


Sure you want to go back in time and play this game?


In 1983 when President Reagan and then-Vice President Bush were standing toe-to-toe with the Communist threat from the Soviet Union, Barack Obama was, according to the New York Daily News, attending “socialist conferences” in New York City. Also in 1983, Barack Obama penned a thesis at Columbia University entitled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament.” As of today, Obama has not released his thesis, and the media (even though they got copies of MICHELLE Obama’s thesis) has not bothered to ask him for it.

So what?  China, Venezuala, Britain, France, Italy and a host of other countries are socialist or quasi socialist.

It's a fact of the world.

1983...was that about the time that President Reagan and then-Vice President Bush were illegally trading arms with our Iranian enemies to fund right wing death squads?

[Hugo Chavez]

did you know this is what happens to you if you become a socialist