The Surge is Working !!!!!

[Neurotoxin]

June 26th, 2008

(CNN) –A roadside bomb killed three service members and a local-national interpreter in a coalition convoy in eastern Afghanistan, the U.S.-led coalition said.





NT

[headhuntersix]

Whatever....I'm not even going to bother.

[Hugo Chavez]

Bush didn't even want to do Afghanistan.  He wanted to just go straight for Iraq just like the plans they had even before he was president.  That really should piss off guys putting their lives on the line for this bullshit.  It should also really make people ask WTF at a level they start to question everything.... like 9/11.  ah but should...

[Dos Equis]

Whatever....I'm not even going to bother.

Don't. 

[headhuntersix]

Yeah...Bush knew we were going to get hit on 911 and really just would have prefered to skip Afghanistan. Where do u guys copme up with this stuff.. U are paranoid beyond belief.

Neuro....i would but I have already...until u guys show and shred of what ur talking about beyond some article off the web...I'll listen and debate...but I need to stop. I'll say this...raise ur hand if u've been to Afghanistan............. ........................ ........................ ........................ ......oh wait.

[240 is Back]

Yeah...Bush knew we were going to get hit on 911

You are correct.

[headhuntersix]

240!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[headhuntersix]

Its Afghanistan.....the damm taliban tried....tried to launch a major offensive to retake Kandhar and cause trouble around Kabul...we crushed them.  It always heats up in the summer...always.

[Fury]

Afghanistan is spelled Iraq now? News to me! 

[Hugo Chavez]

Yeah...Bush knew we were going to get hit on 911 and really just would have prefered to skip Afghanistan. Where do u guys copme up with this stuff.. U are paranoid beyond belief.

Neuro....i would but I have already...until u guys show and shred of what ur talking about beyond some article off the web...I'll listen and debate...but I need to stop. I'll say this...raise ur hand if u've been to Afghanistan............. ........................ ........................ ........................ ......oh wait.

hahaha... Are you saying I'm wrong.  No plan for Iraq before 9/11?  Better make sure bro.

If this isn't good enough, there's more info that says so.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/11/bush_began_iraq_plan_pre_911_oneill_says/

[Hugo Chavez]

Oh dear... The revelations are pooring in for poor HH6 today... Don't melt bro, just convert

[Hugo Chavez]

You are correct.

LOLOLOLOL... 

[headhuntersix]

Dude we have a plan to invade ur bedroom....that plan had been reworked and refined since 1994..yeah I know all about it...again blinding flash of the obvious....I'm blown away.

[Hugo Chavez]

Dude we have a plan to invade ur bedroom....that plan had been reworked and refined since 1994..yeah I know all about it...again blinding flash of the obvious....I'm blown away.

that's not going to work this time bro... we don't plan to the extent where we hold secret meetings and interview for new leaders complete with making plans for the oil and yes, they did.   want more, just say so.  have to find it but I'm not lying.  There is testimony on exactly this.

[Hugo Chavez]

the denial is hilarious

[headhuntersix]

Neuro...things always get bad in the summer there. The Taliban has made some gains and is trying to do more as the AQ experts are leaving Iraq for what they hope are greener pastures. First we have enough troops, trigger pullers anyway. We could use more support from our so called allies. There are alot of troops that don't conduct combat ops. The terrain is difficult and u don't get major pitched battles, even on the small scale of Iraq. We're seeing more IED's.  But it will tapper off by Sept/Oct..and if it does not, it will give us a better opportunity to go after them.

Um Hugo go ahead show me....but shit from CT sites and Prison planet won't work...oh and I don't really care anyway. Bush wanted to go after Saddam....the Neo's had it as part of their agenda...yeah ok got it. It bothers u that I don't care.

[a_joker10]

The surge was in Iraq not Afghanistan.

Look across the boarder of you want to see the problems in Afghanistan. The Taliban in Northern Pakistan have become the De Facto government. This has nothing to do with troop levels of the US and instead says quite a lot about Pakistan.

But you guys want to blame Bush and thats fine NOTHING will convince you otherwise.

[Hugo Chavez]

The surge was in Iraq not Afghanistan.

did u read the post?

[headhuntersix]

i guess my question is whether the job in afghanistan could be completed IF our forces were not stretched so thin from Bush's War in iraq ?

btw, what the fvck prison planet ?


NT

Its a great question....we can only send certain units there. U won't find the 25th, 4th ID, 3rd ID, 2nd ACR/3rd ACR any of the Striker Bde's. The Marines go 82nd/173rd/10th mountain/101st...these guys continually rotate through. We have plenty of SF there. There are SOF units from countries I've never heard of....we have plenty of folks but the Germans and French don't conduct combat ops. The koreans are there as well....but non combat rolls. I think alot of the problem is Pakistan....u can't roll across the border and go after the Taliban. The money guys are over there and unlike Iraq, where we can go after the money guys, we just don't go after them in Pakistan. The Country really sucks, mountainous, air can't go everywhere. Honestly we used to ask ourselves why anybody ever stopped here.

[Slapper]

Neuro, the deaths in Afghanistan do not count. Only the ones in Iraq count.

[headhuntersix]

Afghanistan...add that to ur list of places u know nothing about.

[youandme]

Nothing to do with Bush anymore.
We pledged to world communities that we would fight terrorism, the objective is to destroy rogue militias and let those people in those regions have their freedoms back. Most places we have dropped a single bomb, and restored order.

[Deicide]

Nothing to do with Bush anymore.
We pledged to world communities that we would fight terrorism, the objective is to destroy rogue militias and let those people in those regions have their freedoms back. Most places we have dropped a single bomb, and restored order.

Right....

[a_joker10]

did u read the post?

You missed my point. The reason for the increased violence is the complete surrender of the Pakistan Government to the Talliban in Northern Pakistan..
It has little to do with the American troop levels in Afghanistan.
America could double its troop levels in Afghanistan but until the northern frontier in Pakistan is dealt with the problems with the Taliban will remain since most of the fighting now is from incursions from Pakistan.and until America gets Pakistan to allow American intervention in Pakistan things will get worse.

[Hugo Chavez]

You missed my point. The reason for the increased violence is the complete surrender of the Pakistan Government to the Talliban in Northern Pakistan..
It has little to do with the American troop levels in Afghanistan.
America could double its troop levels in Afghanistan but until the northern frontier in Pakistan is dealt with the problems with the Taliban will remain since most of the fighting now is from incursions from Pakistan.and until America gets Pakistan to allow American intervention in Pakistan things will get worse.

oh crap   We all know about the situation in Pakistan!  Do a search and you'll see I've updated on it here and others probably have too.  "If we want to blame Bush?"  Oh you mean like when the fuckheads gave them free flight to Pakistan to begin with   Yea, I think I can blame Bush Inc. on that