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Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« on: June 30, 2008, 11:26:30 AM »
I'm currently taking Creatine Glutamine and of course Protien, but I also want to cut a little fat, do you think it would be a bad idea to stack Hydroxy hardcore with Bronkaid with all of the above too? Please gimmie advice, kinda new.

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 11:38:47 AM »
no creatine. creatine makes you hold water. creatine is made to bring  water to the muscles  thats why people get bloated

glutamine is fine. just stay away from things that makes you hold water

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 04:29:10 PM »
glutamine is a waste. it doesn nothing at all in terms of bodybuilding. dont waste your money on it.


creatine i wouldnt do, because creatine is lipogenic. however; norcalbber above says you shouldnt use it because it makes you hold water. that is flawed. you definitely WANT to hold water while your dieting. this helps peserve muscle tissue.  use alot of iodized salt while dieting.

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 04:32:52 PM »
glutamine is a waste. it doesn nothing at all in terms of bodybuilding. dont waste your money on it.

heed this advice unless you want to flush your money down the toilet
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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 08:56:42 PM »



creatine i wouldnt do, because creatine is lipogenic. however; norcalbber above says you shouldnt use it because it makes you hold water. that is flawed. you definitely WANT to hold water while your dieting. this helps peserve muscle tissue.  use alot of iodized salt while dieting.

I always felt creatine was useful in the initial stages of cutting to help retain as much muscle as possible.  Even in the later stages of cutting whats the harm of using creatine if your not preparing for a contest? Is it really necessary to cut it out?  Im about a month into cutting but I am still taking in 10 grams PWO...but only PWO.  Do you really think this is slowing my progress?  I have dropped about 10 lbs in this month without losing much strength at all  so I feel like Im going in the right direction so far.

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 09:34:28 PM »
I always felt creatine was useful in the initial stages of cutting to help retain as much muscle as possible.  Even in the later stages of cutting whats the harm of using creatine if your not preparing for a contest? Is it really necessary to cut it out?  Im about a month into cutting but I am still taking in 10 grams PWO...but only PWO.  Do you really think this is slowing my progress?  I have dropped about 10 lbs in this month without losing much strength at all  so I feel like Im going in the right direction so far.
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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 09:51:39 PM »
could you explain how creatine is lipogenic?

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 07:31:23 AM »
no creatine. creatine makes you hold water. creatine is made to bring  water to the muscles  thats why people get booted

glutamine is fine. just stay away from things that makes you hold water

how is water retention in muscle bellies considered bloat??

people usually get bloated by the shit mixed with their creatine(dextrose, etc)

i use kreakyln with waxy maize....no bloat, and i am leaning out fine

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2008, 11:27:52 AM »
Hey guys thanks for all the help  ;D ;D ;D

What kind of creatine do u suggest? and Whey Protien alwayssss right?

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2008, 08:42:59 PM »
doable..just add in teh dextrose in the creatine or sugars if there is any into the equation and you'll still be fine.

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2008, 09:07:31 PM »
glutamine is a waste. it doesn nothing at all in terms of bodybuilding. dont waste your money on it.


creatine i wouldnt do, because creatine is lipogenic. however; norcalbber above says you shouldnt use it because it makes you hold water. that is flawed. you definitely WANT to hold water while your dieting. this helps peserve muscle tissue.  use alot of iodized salt while dieting.

dizzle....can you elaborate on this?

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2008, 09:09:38 PM »
no not really

it came from a very knowledgeable person though; so i trust its accurate

if he reads this and wants to chime in, then im sure youlll get a good explanation

as for now all i can say is i trust that its true



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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 09:17:17 PM »
no not really

it came from a very knowledgeable person though; so i trust its accurate

if he reads this and wants to chime in, then im sure youlll get a good explanation

as for now all i can say is i trust that its true




can you define lipogenic?

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 11:15:43 PM »
how is water retention in muscle bellies considered bloat??

people usually get bloated by the shit mixed with their creatine(dextrose, etc)

i use kreakyln with waxy maize....no bloat, and i am leaning out fine

Not sure if its a hundred percent true but i saw somewhere that kre alkaline creatine is a crock of shit cause it wont absorb, if thats what you re referring to.

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Re: Taking Creatine and Glutamine but also cutting?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2008, 02:35:24 PM »
dizzle....can you elaborate on this?

creatine has been proposed to inhibit fat loss, while not being directly lipogenic by traditional terms per se. It has effects on energy metabolism namely ATP, increasing amounts and acting as an ulterior feul source. depletion of atp aids fat loss as some supps that target this are made for. It also seems to have a minimal effect on glycogen and may play a role is binding unbound AMPK that would be lost through depletion.

its a toss up, it has so many beneficial effects that i would say the added strength and fullness(psychological) would provide some benefits that outweigh the slight negative effects.