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Jobs & headhunters
« on: June 30, 2008, 06:17:57 PM »
So the other day I’m minding my business when my cell phone rings (not home or office phone) and the woman on the other end asks to speak to “Dr. BayGBM.”  I’m immediately suspicious.  Is it a sales person?  Who else?  No one who has my cell phone number calls me “Dr.”

Turns out she is headhunter and wants me to consider a Vice Presidency at a college I’d never heard of (in a state/city I would never live in.)  I’ve heard of a lot of universities so the fact that I’d never heard of this place was not encouraging.  After her sales pitch, I tell her to email me the info and I’ll look it over...

She encourages me to call with any questions about the position not answered on the campus website or in the email info she is sending along.  Before concluding the call, I asked her how she obtained my name and number.  She said she was bound by confidentiality and “not allowed to say.”  WTF?

Anyhow, would you consider an ideal job in an un-ideal location?  Have you dealt with a lot of headhunters before?  Like real estate agents, they seem to get paid for doing relatively little work.


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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 06:35:50 PM »
So the other day I’m minding my business when my cell phone rings (not home or office phone) and the woman on the other end asks to speak to “Dr. BayGBM.”  I’m immediately suspicious.  Is it a sales person?  Who else?  No one who has my cell phone number calls me “Dr.”

Turns out she is headhunter and wants me to consider a Vice Presidency at a college I’d never heard of (in a state/city I would never live in.)  I’ve heard of a lot of universities so the fact that I’d never heard of this place was not encouraging.  After her sales pitch, I tell her to email me the info and I’ll look it over...

She encourages me to call with any questions about the position not answered on the campus website or in the email info she is sending along.  Before concluding the call, I asked her how she obtained my name and number.  She said she was bound by confidentiality and “not allowed to say.”  WTF?

Anyhow, would you consider an ideal job in an un-ideal location?  Have you dealt with a lot of headhunters before?  Like real estate agents, they seem to get paid for doing relatively little work.


I'm not a realtor but I always wonder why people make comments similar to "getting paid to do relatively little work"

If there is so little work why not join the capitalist gang bang and become a realtor.  You could even charge less commission if you feel you're making too much for the small amount of work you're doing

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 07:43:52 PM »
I'm dealing with several recruiters right now.  They get paid by the employers so the more money they can get you, the more money they make themselves.  They are on your side and do all the work for you.  If the recruiter is legitimate, there should be no money out-of-pocket to you.  Feel confident if this is the case.  Don't be afraid to ask questions.  It's good to have them on your side because head-hunters/ recruiters usually come across jobs directly from employers that are not publicly listed.  These are also typically higher paying jobs.


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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 09:27:10 AM »
I remember when I was a kid my mom was an executive for a bank in LA called United California Bank (UCB).  They had the tallest building in LA and it is still there just called something else.  A group called Korn Ferry International were looking at her to be the new President of a bank called Llloyds Bank.  I remember them coming over to our house because I asked my dad who they were and he said they were "headhunters"  I thought that meant something bad at first then my mom explained it to me when they left.  This was around when I was in 6th grade so maybe 1970 or so.  They are or were the biggest company like that at the time.  My mom's only job since she was 16 till she died at 60 was at the bank.  Never did anything else.

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 12:19:36 PM »
Korn Ferry is still around and doing good work; I know them by reputation very well.  There are a lot of fly by night executive search firms out there though.

Anyhow, the point of this thread: would you take an ideal job in an un-ideal location?

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 03:05:14 PM »
Depends on how badly you need the job.  Does the money/ job type make up for the move?  Do you have family you will leave behind?  What kind of factors are you looking at?

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 01:22:09 PM »
if it was something that i really enjoyed doing

and the money was good , very good

yes

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 08:32:30 PM »
So, I'm sitting around my castle the other day - (after flying my chopper), and my iphone rings..... There is a woman with a British accent on the other end of the line. Turns out she had reviewed my resume on Monster.com, and she thought I would be a great candid to become the new King of England.

I'm not sure if I should consider the job or not - ( Don't think I would ever move to London), but I figured you guys could relate, so I asked.

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 09:37:43 PM »
So, I'm sitting around my castle the other day - (after flying my chopper), and my iphone rings..... There is a woman with a British accent on the other end of the line. Turns out she had reviewed my resume on Monster.com, and she thought I would be a great candid to become the new King of England.

I'm not sure if I should consider the job or not - ( Don't think I would ever move to London), but I figured you guys could relate, so I asked.

 :) ;)

haha classic.

Whoa your telling me the girl interviewing you did not ask if she could have sex with you to confirm office policy?

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 10:58:33 AM »
Korn Ferry is still around and doing good work; I know them by reputation very well.  There are a lot of fly by night executive search firms out there though.

Anyhow, the point of this thread: would you take an ideal job in an un-ideal location?

No.  turned the same job offer down three different times.

Cleveland is NOT a good location, besides, my family is in Cali.

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2008, 01:04:34 PM »
No.  turned the same job offer down three different times.

Cleveland is NOT a good location, besides, my family is in Cali.

Ditto. I passed on that job.  But I'm still peeved that she wouldn't tell me how she found me or my cell number.  >:(

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 01:55:21 PM »
haha classic.

Whoa your telling me the girl interviewing you did not ask if she could have sex with you to confirm office policy?

She did, but I didn't want you guys to think I was lying.....Just got done flying the chopper again, time to get ready to have dinner with Bill Gates. I figured I would give him a few tips on how to improve his company.

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 03:53:51 PM »
So the other day I’m minding my business when my cell phone rings (not home or office phone) and the woman on the other end asks to speak to “Dr. BayGBM.”  I’m immediately suspicious.  Is it a sales person?  Who else?  No one who has my cell phone number calls me “Dr.”

Turns out she is headhunter and wants me to consider a Vice Presidency at a college I’d never heard of (in a state/city I would never live in.)  I’ve heard of a lot of universities so the fact that I’d never heard of this place was not encouraging.  After her sales pitch, I tell her to email me the info and I’ll look it over...

She encourages me to call with any questions about the position not answered on the campus website or in the email info she is sending along.  Before concluding the call, I asked her how she obtained my name and number.  She said she was bound by confidentiality and “not allowed to say.”  WTF?

Anyhow, would you consider an ideal job in an un-ideal location?  Have you dealt with a lot of headhunters before?  Like real estate agents, they seem to get paid for doing relatively little work.



still beats IT job hunters calling your house trying to get you to go to iraq  >:(
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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 03:54:58 PM »
I remember when I was a kid my mom was an executive for a bank in LA called United California Bank (UCB).  They had the tallest building in LA and it is still there just called something else.  A group called Korn Ferry International were looking at her to be the new President of a bank called Llloyds Bank.  I remember them coming over to our house because I asked my dad who they were and he said they were "headhunters"  I thought that meant something bad at first then my mom explained it to me when they left.  This was around when I was in 6th grade so maybe 1970 or so.  They are or were the biggest company like that at the time.  My mom's only job since she was 16 till she died at 60 was at the bank.  Never did anything else.


Before that the headhunters you knew about were the ones on Gilligan's Island. Those were the ones to run away from.

The calls I've had from recruiters were about the job I had not the one I wanted to have so they got nowhere with me.

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 12:22:08 PM »
As I noted above, I passed on that job, but that headhunter passed my name along to a colleague and now I'm in the running for another job.  This time it is one I would certainly take if they showed me the money.  I made it through the first couple screening rounds and now they are flying me in to meet with the big wigs... But get this: they now want me to provide names, addresses, and contact information for nine references!

Three references is typical.  Five is not uncommon.  But nine!?!?  I'm not sure I can find nine people in my life--professional or personal-- who will say nice things about me.  ;D  Can you?

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 12:44:44 PM »
F'in crazy man. 

I have a hard time coming up with three.....


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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 12:43:01 PM »
As I noted above, I passed on that job, but that headhunter passed my name along to a colleague and now I'm in the running for another job.  This time it is one I would certainly take if they showed me the money.  I made it through the first couple screening rounds and now they are flying me in to meet with the big wigs... But get this: they now want me to provide names, addresses, and contact information for nine references!

Three references is typical.  Five is not uncommon.  But nine!?!?  I'm not sure I can find nine people in my life--professional or personal-- who will say nice things about me.  ;D  Can you?

Nine references? Oh God no. I can easily find nine that would say bad things though. Nine competent enough to know what is actually going on around them that I can get in touch with is not happening.

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 07:53:12 PM »
Hey guys what is the typical salary for a CFO say for a company with $10 million

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 08:26:03 PM »
As I noted above, I passed on that job, but that headhunter passed my name along to a colleague and now I'm in the running for another job.  This time it is one I would certainly take if they showed me the money.  I made it through the first couple screening rounds and now they are flying me in to meet with the big wigs... But get this: they now want me to provide names, addresses, and contact information for nine references!

Three references is typical.  Five is not uncommon.  But nine!?!?  I'm not sure I can find nine people in my life--professional or personal-- who will say nice things about me.  ;D  Can you?
Obviously they want you to provide them with nine more 'headhuntable' contacts.

A harsh, cynical person might say they just flattered a vain, old poof & he fell over himself trying to give them some leads for the other positions they're trying to fill.

I'm not a harsh, cynical person & you shouldn't be that vain, old poof.  ;)

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Re: Jobs & headhunters
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 10:31:31 AM »
I got an e-mail from a Nigerian billionaire who needs to transfer some funds offshore.  Pretty easy way to make $500,000 though, all I have to do is wire him the rest back.  Does he count as a headhunter if he says we're related?