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« on: July 02, 2008, 06:30:57 PM »

Hello all,

I am not sure if this is the right place for my question. I'm 24, I train naturally, and aim for 3 -4 times a week. I get lots of sleep, eat well, drink 3 cups of coffee in the mornings.

So why am I always so tired?
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 07:28:31 PM »

have you tried taking time off of training?

how long has your current training cycle been going?

Whats your routine like anyway?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 10:26:02 AM »

ditto, you might need to take some time off training, but it could be your lifestyle too-how much drinking are you doing?  Could be the coffee too, I think that stuff ends up making you more tired in the end than you were to begin with.  I would give that up.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 01:06:38 PM »

Thanks mates.

I've been training 3 times a week (down from 4-5 before that). I routinely take a week off training. Just last week for instance, I took the week off.

Right now I'm shooting for lifting three days a week, and doing cardio on 2-3 of the off days.

e.g. Mon: bench, DB presses, pressdowns, skull crushers
Wed: Squat, leg curls, calf raises
Fri: Deads, rows, DB curls

That's just a sample. Oh and I train abs each time.

I don't think it's the coffee, tried cutting it down or switching to tea or neither and was just as tired, but who knows I might be wrong.

Thanks for the help mates.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 06:06:43 AM »

Do you take any meds that change serotonin levels - e.g.: anti-depressants?
You might sleep too much or at the wrong time...
e.g. if I don't have a 10-11pm to 6-8 am cycle I'm always tired. Not quantity - quality is important.
Best sleep is before midnight + make sure the room you sleep in is pitch-black.

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 06:18:50 AM »

some good advice on this thread.  I go through 1-2 periods of intense burnout every year, which lasts anywhere from 1-4 weeks.  Over the years I've been experimenting with different ways to avoid this and how to come out of it as quickly as possible.  When I have more time, I'll share some insights...
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 07:02:59 AM »

Test levels might be low.  Try taking ZMA. Will help you sleep and might help test levels.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 07:40:23 PM »

Eat more.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 01:54:48 PM »

i have the same problem bro. i went to the doc and had a blood test taken. didn't find anything wrong, but he told me to watch what i am eating and drinking. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 03:36:26 PM »

Eat more!!!

Probably need more whole protein and are weakening your immune system by losing to much body fat.

I'd say drink more heineken but it probably doesn't work for everyone. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 09:27:35 AM »

Thanks for all the replies, mates!

Do you take any meds that change serotonin levels - e.g.: anti-depressants?

No.

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You might sleep too much or at the wrong time...
e.g. if I don't have a 10-11pm to 6-8 am cycle I'm always tired. Not quantity - quality is important.
Best sleep is before midnight + make sure the room you sleep in is pitch-black.


I do tend to leave my TV on all night, I fall asleep while watching. I'll try and turn it off.

Test levels might be low.  Try taking ZMA. Will help you sleep and might help test levels.

Don't know about my test levels. Should I perhaps get a Dr's appointment and schedule a blood test?

Eat more!!!

Probably need more whole protein and are weakening your immune system by losing to much body fat.

I'd say drink more heineken but it probably doesn't work for everyone. Smiley

I'll fill up on the Guinness then. Cheers!
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 08:37:19 AM »

Try the caveman-diet. You will be another man.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 02:30:32 PM »

How many sets are you doing and how long do you spend in the gym?

The duration and intensity of your cardio might also be a factor.

Other than that you should cover the basic insurance policies:
-gram of protein per lb of bodyweight (a comparable quantity of quality carbs unless cutting)
-plenty of healthy fats (gram per 2 lbs of bodyweight)
-multivitamin
-3 grams of vit C per day with meals (it's a connective tissue growth factor)
-less than 3 hours of weights per week

High GI carbs might also be the culprit... are you living on rice perchance?


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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 08:29:48 AM »

How many sets are you doing and how long do you spend in the gym?

The duration and intensity of your cardio might also be a factor.

Other than that you should cover the basic insurance policies:
-gram of protein per lb of bodyweight (a comparable quantity of quality carbs unless cutting)
-plenty of healthy fats (gram per 2 lbs of bodyweight)
-multivitamin
-3 grams of vit C per day with meals (it's a connective tissue growth factor)
-less than 3 hours of weights per week

High GI carbs might also be the culprit... are you living on rice perchance?


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Thanks for your reply, mate.

I usually spend about an hour in the gym, 3 - 4 times a week.

Do a few warm up sets at first, then work out to the weight I want, then do 4 sets of 6 or 5 sets of 5 at that weight. The following week I try and increase that weight by 5-10 pounds if possible.

Haven't done any cardio in two weeks, I'm ashamed to say. Left knee hurts from squatting...

I eat one or two tsp of natural PB a day, for the healthy fats.

Don't really count grams of protein, but have a big eggs/egg whites breakfast, shakes before and after workout, other meals consist of steak, chicken and turkey.

And no, I haven't even eaten any rice at all this year Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 09:03:41 PM »

Hello all,

I am not sure if this is the right place for my question. I'm 24, I train naturally, and aim for 3 -4 times a week. I get lots of sleep, eat well, drink 3 cups of coffee in the mornings.

So why am I always so tired?
increase your calories by 300 a day that should do the trick
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 08:37:36 PM »

Howís your water intake?
Hydrated muscles produce greater output than dry ones. Dehydration can also lead to feelings of lethargy and fatigue.

Caffeine (of which youíre getting plenty) notoriously dehydrates the body.

Iíve heard & read of a few other folks who experience chronic type tiredness despite ample caffeine intake, and increased water consumption usually offsets it for them.

Try it out.
Itís just water.

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2008, 06:43:09 AM »

Howís your water intake?
Hydrated muscles produce greater output than dry ones. Dehydration can also lead to feelings of lethargy and fatigue.

Caffeine (of which youíre getting plenty) notoriously dehydrates the body.

Iíve heard & read of a few other folks who experience chronic type tiredness despite ample caffeine intake, and increased water consumption usually offsets it for them.

Try it out.
Itís just water.



if he reckons he's getting it all in the morning i can assume it would cause pretty large headaches later in the morning lol..
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 03:23:26 AM »

Try the caveman-diet. You will be another man.

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2008, 10:08:04 AM »

Howís your water intake?
Hydrated muscles produce greater output than dry ones. Dehydration can also lead to feelings of lethargy and fatigue.

Caffeine (of which youíre getting plenty) notoriously dehydrates the body.

Iíve heard & read of a few other folks who experience chronic type tiredness despite ample caffeine intake, and increased water consumption usually offsets it for them.

Try it out.
Itís just water.



Thanks mate I've tried your advice and I believe it's helped!

I'm planning on experimenting with various workout layouts and such to see what that brings Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2008, 10:09:18 AM »

increase your calories by 300 a day that should do the trick

I've made an effort to get more calories... mainly corn and fruit and some pudding  Cool I think it's helped as well!
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2008, 04:05:23 PM »

Thanks mate I've tried your advice and I believe it's helped!

I'm planning on experimenting with various workout layouts and such to see what that brings Smiley

Glad to hear.

Iíve made the same recommendation to other people whoíve had problems similar to yours as well as others.
It almost always works because those people almost always are not getting enough water.

Water is so important and carries so many benefits that, without it, even other very beneficial things we put in and do to our bodies loses effectiveness.


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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2008, 01:48:14 AM »

Google Sleep Apnea. More people have this then is reported...If you snore, there is a good chance you have some sort of sleep problems...Which can and will make you tired through out the day...
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2008, 06:05:51 AM »

Hello all,

I am not sure if this is the right place for my question. I'm 24, I train naturally, and aim for 3 -4 times a week. I get lots of sleep, eat well, drink 3 cups of coffee in the mornings.

So why am I always so tired?

lack of carbs leads to chronic fatigue in some. try lowering fats and increasing carbs by 300-500g a day for 2 weeks, and see how you feel then.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2008, 10:16:54 AM »

Google Sleep Apnea. More people have this then is reported...If you snore, there is a good chance you have some sort of sleep problems...Which can and will make you tired through out the day...


dude seriously. Why not suggest all kinds of possible disorders like anemia, hypothyrodism,graves,addisons,vitamin  b12 deficiency. Start with simple shit and work your way into shit like that.


































































































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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2009, 02:47:23 PM »

I also suffer from the "always tired" and the "need more caffiene" feeling...or I did. have you tried a ketogenic diet or ckd? you might be insulin resistant and it could be spiking after meals and making you TIRED AS HELL.
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