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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #225 on: July 10, 2008, 10:27:39 AM »
You can call me gullible, that's fine.

Wayne got 1500 butts in chairs in NYC, with Lee Priest on a stage.  He got ESPN the Mag to cover it.

You can trivialize it all you'd like by throwing Rhino's name at it.  But there HAVE been 5 attempts in 2 years.  This is notable.

You're out of the loop, bro...there have been MANY orgs over the years, some of which still continue today...most of them Europe based, or defunct. This isn't anything new....just like the guy opening a pizza shop in the same spot that the last 6 failed because..."they just didn't know what they were doing".

You overlook the obvious....giving away 1,500 seats for free does not equal a success.

Again...supply and demand. There isn't enough of a demand, and using amateurs and wannabe's aint going to attract sponsors, fans or money....cant run a federation on the name of one guy.


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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #226 on: July 10, 2008, 10:34:17 AM »
You're out of the loop, bro...there have been MANY orgs over the years, some of which still continue today...most of them Europe based, or defunct. This isn't anything new....just like the guy opening a pizza shop in the same spot that the last 6 failed because..."they just didn't know what they were doing".

You overlook the obvious....giving away 1,500 seats for free does not equal a success.

Again...supply and demand. There isn't enough of a demand, and using amateurs and wannabe's aint going to attract sponsors, fans or money....cant run a federation on the name of one guy.



sheeeooot...i paid for my tix!

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #227 on: July 10, 2008, 10:43:06 AM »
240, sorry to be back here haunting ya but you bring up an interesting subject. ANd it appears that we both see the same pasture from different sides of the fence.

Here's the way I see it.

Sure, we have had five attempts, but the point here is that all five of them have been failures. Or am I overlooking one?

Most new business ventures are initiated in an attempt to copy the success of others. I am not aware of any start-up starting up to emulate a business that has recently failed. There could be occasions where the founding officers simply stold the funds and went on the lam and another enterprising individual stepped in to fill the void, but there is no real void to fill in our present situation unless that "void" is in the head of the party who is stepping in.

I do agree that there are many reasons for anyone of us to wish to start a new organization. Some of these reasons may be valid but most of them are simply figments of our imagination.

But the overall picture from my side of the fence clearly shows that many have started but none crossed the finish line while racing against the big kid on the block.  And we know damn well who that guy is.

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #228 on: July 10, 2008, 10:56:11 AM »
why do you believe B&A was trying to take on the IFBB?  B&A was trying to put on a show.   Musclemania is successful putting on shows.  they offer prize money and modeling opportunities.   WNBF is successful putting on shows.  they offer prize money.    In Europe, NAC contests are very popular.  and there is still NABBA and WABBA.   None of these guys are seen as trying to take on the IFBB.

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #229 on: July 10, 2008, 11:23:56 PM »


It's notable.  IMO, the fact that for 14 years, no one had the guts or position to start a rival organization... then suddenly we have FIVE new orgas pop up in the last 24 months... Something has to be the catalyst for that.   As years pass, and people retire, the BIG organization will be run more and more as a company, not a family-run business.  And since the barriers to entry for a BBing federation are so low (under $50k delivers a show, and athletes are plentiful), will it be long until another entry comes along?

diffrence between European and American bodybuilding is that in the USA business is more important,
you need a strong business to run a Organization
all thiose Contest Promoters failed becouse they wanted to make money with the business of others (sponsors)

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #230 on: July 11, 2008, 06:04:35 AM »
hallo Ben,

because we are friend can I ask you some questions?

I have read that you say to be NABBA Universe winner, can I
ask you in in what year you have won?
I have in my archive you only 4th.

Also one more question: from the beginning I know your name
was NORBERT HULLEN and not BEN BLOOM, you already knew that
there would have been some threats of death against you?

You have won Natural competitions, sure You have not taken
tons of steroids?

Do you really need that motorcycle and car to buy with the
contest fees?


Friend I'm waintin your answere

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #232 on: July 11, 2008, 06:26:36 AM »

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #233 on: July 11, 2008, 06:33:12 AM »
yes u can eat pizza

No, the message behind this post was:


Italian meltdown.  ::) ::)


How is the weather in italy?

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #234 on: July 11, 2008, 06:36:30 AM »
No, the message behind this post was:

oK u can have pizza behind

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #235 on: July 12, 2008, 12:31:48 AM »
a photo of thievish Ben15 winning natural Olympia full of steroids


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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #236 on: July 12, 2008, 12:47:42 AM »
LOL
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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #237 on: July 12, 2008, 08:43:22 AM »
hallo Ben,

because we are friend can I ask you some questions?

I have read that you say to be NABBA Universe winner, can I
ask you in in what year you have won?
I have in my archive you only 4th.

Also one more question: from the beginning I know your name
was NORBERT HULLEN and not BEN BLOOM, you already knew that
there would have been some threats of death against you?

You have won Natural competitions, sure You have not taken
tons of steroids?

Do you really need that motorcycle and car to buy with the
contest fees?


Friend I'm waintin your answere

saluti from south Italy

TEMUGIN FILIZOLA






NORBERT HULLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This guy's competitive record is dogshit.......bahahahaha hahahaha!!!!!!!
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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #238 on: July 12, 2008, 11:32:33 AM »
BEN15 do you wear hat because have lost hair with steroids?

from your eyes you have taken some nasal medicines (not talking of vicks sinex...)


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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #239 on: July 12, 2008, 11:34:31 AM »
This guy's competitive record is dogshit.......bahahahaha hahahaha!!!!!!!

Isn't it hilarious that Vince Goodrum has the audacity to make fun of someone's competitive record?

He was 7th at one show and dead last at two other shows.

pathetic.
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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #240 on: July 13, 2008, 06:01:52 AM »
he is not a liar as Ben15

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #241 on: July 13, 2008, 06:16:33 AM »
a photo of thievish Ben15 winning natural Olympia full of steroids



no dude

that's ben2

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #242 on: July 13, 2008, 08:29:15 AM »
hallo ban, do you fuck the blond fake tits or the black does?




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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #243 on: July 13, 2008, 08:31:37 AM »
hallo ban, do you fuck the blond fake tits or the black does?





that's ben6 moron

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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #244 on: July 14, 2008, 05:41:54 PM »
Read the writing in Ben's shirt....LOL!

hallo ban, do you fuck the blond fake tits or the black does?





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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #245 on: July 15, 2008, 06:36:33 AM »
thanks to musclemag to have adv this shit


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Re: B&A Show has been cancelled!
« Reply #246 on: October 28, 2009, 12:02:06 PM »
I will be discussing new details about this event tonight on Off Topic Radio!!!  Tune in at 8pm EST
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