The most complete back of all time...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian has wider lats m larger lats , lower lats ! and more striated lats , he has a much better christmass tree and larger thicker traps , his and look at the big difference in the infraspinatus & teres and this isn't even Yates at his best lol

Dorian's back > Ronnie's

[Hulkster]

Dorian has wider lats m larger lats , lower lats ! and more striated lats , he has a much better christmass tree and larger thicker traps , his and look at the big difference in the infraspinatus & teres and this isn't even Yates at his best lol

Dorian's back > Ronnie's

its also a 1996 Ronnie LOL

dorian doesn't hold up to a post Olympia win Ronnie.

never could.

[NarcissisticDeity]

its also a 1996 Ronnie LOL

dorian doesn't hold up to a post Olympia win Ronnie.

never could.

LMFAO as far as thickness & width 2001 is NOT even beating 1996 never mind Dorian lol

[England_1]

its also a 1996 Ronnie LOL

dorian doesn't hold up to a post Olympia win Ronnie.

never could.

Ronnie's back in that 01 shot looks exactly the same as 96....high lats, lacking width and hardness compared to Yates. Ron's back does not compare. Sorry.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie's back in that 01 shot looks exactly the same as 96....high lats, lacking width and hardness compared to Yates. Ron's back does not compare. Sorry.

LMFAO Exactly talk about epic failure lol

[ANAL DISCHARGE]

Ronnie's back in 96 looked very good as the picture shows, yet Dorian clearly destroys him.  I don't really see Ronnie improving in 98 - thickness looks less if anything - perhaps a little more lat width but not enough complete development.

[suckmymuscle]

  Dorian's and Ronnie's backs are close, but what separates them apart and gives Dorian the nod over Ronnie is the fact that Dorian had the genetically superior back. By this, I mean that Dorian had lats that attached lower than Ronnie's. This doesen't mean much when it comes to lat width and thickness, but it certainly matters as far the lower part of the back is concerned: there is a thick wall of muscle around Dorian's erector spinae, which Ronnie never had. It is an aesthetic advantage that makes Dorian's back overral the better one of the two.

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[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie's back in 96 looked very good as the picture shows, yet Dorian clearly destroys him.  I don't really see Ronnie improving in 98 - thickness looks less if anything - perhaps a little more lat width but not enough complete development.

Exactly Ronnie's back in terms of width thickness is about the same in 96 as in 98/01 and look at that pic of Yates who isn't even at his best and he outclasses Ronnie.

[suckmymuscle]

  In my opinion, Joel Stubbs has a better back than Ronnie: lower attachment point to the lats, more middle back thickness and same freaky genetics for separations. Ronnie also always had trouble losing the last film of water in the lower part of his back, which compromised his overral back look. So this thread should really be about who has the best back between Dorian and Stubbs, because frankly, Ronnie is not second best.

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[Moosejay]

Best backs:

1)Yates....2nd
2)Coleman....3rd
3)Haney...4th
4)Bannout...first, best ever

[NeoSeminole]

best back of all-time according to Flex magazine. Take your pick.

01 ASC









03 Mr. Olympia

[NarcissisticDeity]

best back of all-time according to Flex magazine. Take your pick.



03 Mr. Olympia
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Actually Flex magazine also said Dorian had the best back , as well as Joel Stubbs lol

2001 LMFAO his par is on par with 96 in terms of width & thickness , his back in 03 is really big and wide but lacks density & dryness OVERALL in terms of everything , width , thickness, lat length , detail , density & dryness Dorian edges Ronnie out.

[NeoSeminole]

Actually Flex magazine also said Dorian had the best back , as well as Joel Stubbs lol

ROFLCOPTER, that was an old issue of Flex magazine.

[NaturalWonder83]

how come dorian has big rolls of fat on his back?

[England_1]

Rolls of fat on the lower back AND neck 

[Hulkster]

how come dorian has big rolls of fat on his back?

because his back is not as good as Ronnie's.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ROFLCOPTER, that was an old issue of Flex magazine.

It doesn't matter Ronnie's back didn't improve after 99 , you still can't counter my argument Dorian has wider thicker lats , they insert lower near his waist . thats like you trying to argue a guy who has high calves being better than a guy with lower ones with less size but equal development lol Dorian's lats are striated in a way Coleman's never were , Dorian has bigger & thicker traps , Dorian also has etter detail & development of the spinal erectors and his infraspinatus & teres are bigger & more detailed

Dorian's back lacks nothing

[NarcissisticDeity]

because his back is not as good as Ronnie's.

 

[marcus]

You two queers need your own sub-forum.

[Howard]

This best back of all time is a tough call.
Lee Haney had ,in my opinion, the best overall back lat spread.I think he had the most impressive back of all time.He just blew away all others when in his prime on the Olympia stage when he did his back shots.
Yates had incredible overall mass and denisty but lacked the incredible detail of Coleman in his upper back.
Yates had a more granite, rock hard look but Ronnie had more lat flare and overall separation in the upper back.
Samir Banout had some incredible back  thickness and separation when he won his only Mr O title over 25 years ago. Zane had incredible definition but not the width or thickness. Arnold had a great back dbl bi with impressive separation in the upper back but lacked sheer width.
Joel Stubbs is VERY impressive and may be the best overall back  seen on a pro stage TODAY.

[NeoSeminole]

It doesn't matter Ronnie's back didn't improve after 99

yes it did, you dumbass. The 01 ASC and 03 Mr. Olympia are considered Ronnie's 2 best showings; both contests were after 99 when Flex magazine came out with their first poll for best back.

you still can't counter my argument Dorian has wider thicker lats , they insert lower near his waist. thats like you trying to argue a guy who has high calves being better than a guy with lower ones with less size but equal development lol Dorian's lats are striated in a way Coleman's never were , Dorian has bigger & thicker traps , Dorian also has etter detail & development of the spinal erectors and his infraspinatus & teres are bigger & more detailed

it's really simple: Ronnie's back was just as good without the ugly bacne and skin folds.

[suckmymuscle]

yes it did, you dumbass. The 01 ASC and 03 Mr. Olympia are considered Ronnie's 2 best showings; both contests were after 99 when Flex magazine came out with their first poll for best back.

  This only means that his physique overral improved, and not necessarily his back. Ronnie was more conditioned and harder overral at the 2001 ASC than in 1999, and at the 2003 Olympia he had more mass than at the 1999 Olympia.

  How was Ronnie's back better at the 2001 ASC or 2003 Olympia than Dorian's? In 2001 it was more shredded but smaller, amnd in 2003 it was bigger but much softer and lacking in detail compared to Dorian's.

it's really simple: Ronnie's back was just as good without the ugly bacne and skin folds.

  Dorian didn't have any backne at the 1995 Olympia, which is regarded as his best performance. As for skin folds, Ronnie had them too and there are pictures where Dorian's back skin is as tight as a drum.

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[NeoSeminole]

This only means that his physique overral improved, and not necessarily his back. Ronnie was more conditioned and harder overral at the 2001 ASC than in 1999, and at the 2003 Olympia he had more mass than at the 1999 Olympia.

exactly

How was Ronnie's back better at the 2001 ASC or 2003 Olympia than Dorian's? In 2001 it was more shredded but smaller, amnd in 2003 it was bigger but much softer and lacking in detail compared to Dorian's.

Ronnie's back at the 01 ASC was just as wide and detailed as Dorian's with better taper and fullness and no disgusting bacne or skin folds. In 03, Ronnie's back was noticeably wider and thicker than Dorian's.

Dorian didn't have any backne at the 1995 Olympia, which is regarded as his best performance. As for skin folds, Ronnie had them too and there are pictures where Dorian's back skin is as tight as a drum.

skin folds

[suckmymuscle]

exactly

  So you do agree that Ronnie's back was not necessarily better in 2001 and 2003 than in 1999? Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot.

Ronnie's back at the 01 ASC was just as wide and detailed as Dorian's

  Detailed, yes. As wide, no.

with better taper and fullness and no disgusting bacne or skin folds.

  No, not really. Ronnie's waist was smaller, but since Dorian's lats were wider than Ronnie's at the 2001 ASC, then the taper was about the same.

In 03, Ronnie's back was noticeably wider and thicker than Dorian's.

  But it was lacking in quality. And just stop posting pictures where Dorian has skin folds in his back. For starters, I don't even know if judges mark this down, and secondly, there are several pictures of Ronnie with folds as well - as an example, the famous´picture from the 2003 Olympia where he has folds in his neck. And I repeat: Dorian had no acne in his back in 1995, which is the version of him I prefer, so stop bringing this shit up.

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[IceCold]

skin folds

[img][http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates02.jpg/img]


skin folds?

oh, you mean when yates was NOT flexing.

you may as well take a picture of him when he's sleeping and post that.

moron.