Author Topic: Johnny Jackson (Read 8838 times)

bigguns23 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 05, 2008, 01:28:01 PM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on July 05, 2008, 09:28:19 AM

talk to anyone who actually trains with ronnie (glennr on mayhem used to talk about it all the damn time). ronnie never trains as heavy as he does for his videos. and that's no surprise, either, if he trained like he did in the videos he'd have torn even more muscles than he did. IN the damn videos he says he's never tried it before, so it's a safe bet that his 800x2 partial squat and his 800x2 strapped pull were the highest he ever tried.

by the way, what the hell does my old major in college have to do with anything?

if you can get your hands on it, in the june 2005 (i think) muscle and fitness, with the rock on the cover, they have a training article featuring Johnnie and some other dude back when they were NPC competitors. there is a photograph of johnnie hitting his 814 pull.

Right you are bro.

In 2006, he did 6 plates for backsquat when I was there. For I 12 reps I think it was. He was around 320 then in June. And that was about what he did regularly, not the 800 every week lol.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 05, 2008, 01:42:04 PM »

Quote from: bigguns23 on July 05, 2008, 01:28:01 PM

Right you are bro.

In 2006, he did 6 plates for backsquat when I was there. For I 12 reps I think it was. He was around 320 then in June. And that was about what he did regularly, not the 800 every week lol.

self ownage

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #52 on:** July 05, 2008, 02:44:42 PM »

Is Tank Abbott stronger on the bench than Ronnie Coleman? Discuss.

bigguns23 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 05, 2008, 03:19:11 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on July 05, 2008, 01:42:04 PM

self ownage

You are right, he did own me. In fact, he owned all of us at Metroflex that day.

Matt C · « **Reply #54 on:** July 05, 2008, 03:40:57 PM »

Quote from: closeline on July 05, 2008, 05:30:02 AM

jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise

Average?

Matt C · « **Reply #55 on:** July 05, 2008, 03:48:33 PM »

Discuss:

Necrosis · « **Reply #56 on:** July 05, 2008, 04:19:53 PM »

Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #57 on:** July 05, 2008, 04:38:12 PM »

Quote from: usmokepole on July 05, 2008, 04:19:53 PM

Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.

lol Yes

I wonder how Mr. Magoo will respond to this if at all?

3Dkiller · « **Reply #58 on:** July 05, 2008, 04:46:36 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 05, 2008, 03:48:33 PM

Discuss:

amazing

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 05, 2008, 04:49:16 PM »

Quote from: bigguns23 on July 05, 2008, 03:19:11 PM

You are right, he did own me. In fact, he owned all of us at Metroflex that day.

lol you dont even know how you owned yourself in that earlier post. bye bye.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 05, 2008, 04:52:10 PM »

Quote from: usmokepole on July 05, 2008, 04:19:53 PM

Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.

amen. add to that fact , that he trained like a bodybuilder and not as a powerlifter. if he had focused more on the big three, his poundages would have been even higher.

TechnoViking · « **Reply #61 on:** July 05, 2008, 05:31:20 PM »

Ronnie's form is some of the worst on the planet...There is no way in hell that ronnie would even be able to sit under 500 pounds(without a shirt)and do a legit competition bench press...And we won't even go into his Squats and deadlift...

Don't get me wrong, Ronnie is a strong Mofo in the gym...But lets not confuse the gym with comp/lifting...Ronnie would get torched by Johnny...

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 05, 2008, 05:33:31 PM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 05, 2008, 05:31:20 PM

Ronnie's form is some of the worst on the planet...There is no way in hell that ronnie would even be able to sit under 500 pounds(without a shirt)and do a legit competition bench press...And we won't even go into his Squats and deadlift...

Don't get me wrong, Ronnie is a strong Mofo in the gym...But lets not confuse the gym with comp/lifting...Ronnie would get torched by Johnny...

ronnie does 5 reps with 495 non lock out style (which is harder than reg bench presses..because your not resting in the lock out position) and you dont think ronnie could even bench 500?

what are you ? an idiot or just a moron?

TechnoViking · « **Reply #63 on:** July 05, 2008, 05:38:37 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on July 05, 2008, 05:33:31 PM

ronnie does 5 reps with 495 non lock out style (which is harder than reg bench presses..because your not resting in the lock out position) and you dont think ronnie could even bench 500?

what are you ? an idiot or just a moron?

Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...

And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...

But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 05, 2008, 05:42:27 PM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 05, 2008, 05:38:37 PM

Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...

And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...

But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...

lol if he can do 5 reps with 495 non lockout style his 1RM would be atleast be 520-530.

add in some specific bench press training and he would be benching 600lbs raw. (not anymore tho..as his body is fucked...but at his strongest , a few years ago)

bigguns23 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 05, 2008, 05:44:01 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on July 05, 2008, 04:49:16 PM

lol you dont even know how you owned yourself in that earlier post. bye bye.

Umm, no. How can I own myself when I am telling the truth. Ah nevermind. Nevermind.

closeline · « **Reply #66 on:** July 06, 2008, 02:40:21 AM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on July 05, 2008, 08:52:05 AM

ahahahaha
he's never pulled heavy without straps

oh, looking at ron s tiny hands and skinny forearms, i m sure , he couldn t handle his weights without straps

hey mr fool

closeline · « **Reply #67 on:** July 06, 2008, 02:57:21 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on July 05, 2008, 03:40:57 PM

Average?

yes average !!!!

look at him at the gym, he does nothing the average pro and maybe hundrets of amateurs can t do

bb-rows - he struggled with 315
all pec exercises - a lot weaker than the average pro (ask brench warren)
and so on

its all like he tries the singles and most bb dont go for low reps becaus its just stupid to risk to get injured

real streght for a bodybuilder means to do things like ronnie s dumble presses or nasser s 200lb dumbell shoulder press
there is no cheating no equipment that helps

Mars · « **Reply #68 on:** July 06, 2008, 04:14:27 AM »

jr · « **Reply #69 on:** July 06, 2008, 05:12:02 AM »

I wonder what the world records would be if the top powerlifters, olympic lifters and strongmen took as much drugs as the pro bodybuilders.

closeline · « **Reply #70 on:** July 06, 2008, 06:08:20 AM »

actually they thake a lot more without less respect of side effects

bleeding nose after atempts, acne , no hair ....is not a problem on a platform, even for woman

Bodybuilder have to take care of

on the other hand havy-bb have to take more diuretics (as long the lifters are not in weight classes)

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 06, 2008, 06:09:28 AM »

Necrosis · « **Reply #72 on:** July 06, 2008, 09:55:16 PM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 05, 2008, 05:38:37 PM

Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...

And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...

But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...

his back was also flat on the bench, and most powerlifters at that weight are moving the bar half of the distance he is moving it. they have huge guts and a retarded poster to minimize movement, again are you just a moron?

TechnoViking · « **Reply #73 on:** July 07, 2008, 12:34:15 AM »

Quote from: usmokepole on July 06, 2008, 09:55:16 PM

his back was also flat on the bench, and most powerlifters at that weight are moving the bar half of the distance he is moving it. they have huge guts and a retarded poster to minimize movement, again are you just a moron?

Don't fool yourself...Ronnies gut is on par with most heavy weight fat ass power lifters...stop believing everything you read in flex...The guys gut is over 40inches contest shape...And if your the douche bag everyone tells me you are, then you would believe that pushing the weight without stopping is harder then rest pause...Which everyone in the world except your flex subscription buying ass knows is not true...

The truth is, that is how you train and every other douche bag in your gym...You push weight on rythem and want to believe its harder because your a fking pussy...I'm telling you right now, Ronnie can not take 500 pounds Raw and hold it at the bottom and push on command...You do realise the guy is half retarded to boot...JJ would smoke his silly peanut eating ass and only people who jerk off to Ronnie's video believes differently...Don't get me wrong the guy is retard strong...But when it comes to comp/lifting, Ronnie Coleman would be brought back down to reality...And he knows this hence is why he would never go head to head with JJ...

Now go call muscle tech and tell them how great they are and that you need to see more Greg Kovcas's smith machine inclines...I mean really Greg could probably incline bench a 1000pounds right?...

So in closing, you are a douchebag and everyone knows it and you hang on Ronnies every word...You have a subscription to every mag out there and you use each story in the mags as a guideline for your every workout...I'm a moron and your a naive douchebag...

Parker · « **Reply #74 on:** July 07, 2008, 12:41:32 AM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 07, 2008, 12:34:15 AM

Don't fool yourself...Ronnies gut is on par with most heavy weight fat ass power lifters...stop believing everything you read in flex...The guys gut is over 40inches contest shape...And if your the douche bag everyone tells me you are, then you would believe that pushing the weight without stopping is harder then rest pause...Which everyone in the world except your flex subscription buying ass knows is not true...

The truth is, that is how you train and every other douche bag in your gym...You push weight on rythem and want to believe its harder because your a fking pussy...I'm telling you right now, Ronnie can not take 500 pounds Raw and hold it at the bottom and push on command...You do realise the guy is half retarded to boot...JJ would smoke his silly peanut eating ass and only people who jerk off to Ronnie's video believes differently...Don't get me wrong the guy is retard strong...But when it comes to comp/lifting, Ronnie Coleman would be brought back down to reality...And he knows this hence is why he would never go head to head with JJ...

Now go call muscle tech and tell them how great they are and that you need to see more Greg Kovcas's smith machine inclines...I mean really Greg could probably incline bench a 1000pounds right?...

So in closing, you are a douchebag and everyone knows it and you hang on Ronnies every word...You have a subscription to every mag out there and you use each story in the mags as a guideline for your every workout...I'm a moron and your a naive douchebag...

Man, half-retarded with a BS in Accounting. Damn, that's one smart half-retard. By the way, how do they measure being half-retarded? I'm curious, because I think I might have this affliction.